Deathwatch Overkill (Deathwatch vs Genestealer cult board game) - 40k rules, free download pg1

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**gorgon**

Sinful Hero wrote:
Squinting at the preview the Patriarch appears to be Psyker level 2.

...but it blurry enough to be a 1.

Level 2 would be cool. They were certainly powerful psykers in the fluff and in their last official 40K incarnation. It'd be nice to see that continue. Level 1 would be disappointing.

**Sinful Hero**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Any close ups of the cards per chance?

Not so far, as much as I'm aware of.

**MajorTom11**

I am pretty sure that symbol was the Genestealer symbol far before it was the Tyranid one. I wouldn't automatically assume that GSC would be Nid only units just yet.

**inquisitorlewis**

Execution Force was the last GW product I have purchased.

Looks like I will end up buying in on this game as well.

**pretre**

That biker looks like he might have a teleport homer. Cheap way to get one in a list through allies.

**Warhams-77**

GC are a new faction, thats the Tyranid symbol

**pretre**

Warhams-77 wrote:
GC are a new faction, thats the Tyranid symbol

Don't you mean ARE NOT?

I don't see a GC symbol.

**M0ff3l**

pretre wrote:
Warhams-77 wrote:
GC are a new faction, thats the Tyranid symbol

Don't you mean ARE NOT?

I don't see a GC symbol.

in the leaks, the GC have a new symbol on the top of their rules pages. Just like the deathwatch guys.

**Warhams-77**

Yes thats what I meant, the Tyranid symbol is a different one, they are two different factions.

**Nevelon**

pretre wrote:
Warhams-77 wrote:
GC are a new faction, thats the Tyranid symbol

Don't you mean ARE NOT?

I don't see a GC symbol.

The symbol on the chart is a double grub thing, while the one on the leaked pics is a single one. Different symbols, different armies.

Ninja’d twice. I need more coffee...

**Warhams-77**

The Genestealer Cult symbol

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

Sinful Hero wrote:
Squinting at the preview the Patriarch appears to be Psyker level 2.

Spoiler:

...but it blurry enough to be a 1.

It looks to me to say he rolls on "Telepathy" as well.

**Sinful Hero**

Sinful Hero wrote:
For those not fond of Facebook.

Spoiler:

And the others.

**godardc**

They seem to be standard sternguards and vanguards, it is a bit disappointing.

**Tyran**

I'm still trying to understand how the hell a Genestealer Cult has access to a Bonesword.

**Tactical_Spam**

Tyran wrote:
I'm still trying to understand how the hell a Genestealer Cult has access to a Bonesword.

Its just a picture, the profile listed above it is rending claws

**JoeRugby**

Are the Deathwatch marines looking bigger than standard 40k marines to anyone else?

In the pic of e game they seem to be taller than the cultists

Edit: might just be wishful thinking on my part

**Tyran**

Tactical_Spam wrote:
Tyran wrote:
I'm still trying to understand how the hell a Genestealer Cult has access to a Bonesword.

Its just a picture, the profile listed above it is rending claws

The Primus has a Bonesword.

**kronk**

That's a lot of 1 wound guys, Cassius aside. I assume the Librarian is also 2 wounds.

**MajorTom11**

Just in from BOLS -

Patriarch Ghosar (unkown price).

WS 7
BS-?
S-5
T-5
W-3
I-7
A-4
Ld-10
Sv-4+

Wargear;

Patriarch’s Claws-???
Genestealer Familiar-???

Special rules.

Bulky
Fear
Fearless
Hit and Run
Independent Charakter
Infiltrate
Move Througt Cover
Psyker lv 2 (Telepathy)
Stealh

The Favoured Disciples: troops 17 meltabombs (12 models) .

WS.4
BS.3
S.4
T.3
W.1
I.4
A.2
LD.8
SV.5+

Wargear.;
Autopistol
Ccw
Rending claws. User S. 5ap. Melee,Rending
Assault granades.

Special Rules;
Fearless.

**JohnnyHell**

I can't wait to field my Broodlord, Spawn of Cryptus and Patriarch all together.

**M0ff3l**

*rough-ish translation of the deathwatch rules, I know german, but I don't know some of the rule names in german*

Edryc Setorax 35 points
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 3+ (unique)

2 lightning claws
frag/krak grenades

and they shall know no fear
bulky
deepstrike
stealth

Attack from the shadows:
until the start of the second game turn, Edryx Setorax has the shrouded special rule

Winged Redemption:
Edryx Setorax can use his jump pack in the movement and the assault phase of the same turn. Additionally he can reroll failed hammer of wrath attacks.

Heroic intervention:
A unit with this special rule can reroll one or both of the dice when rolling charge distance. Aditionally he always passes a glorious intervention test.

Ortan Cassius 95 points
5 4 4 4 2 4 2 10 3+ (unique)

Cannot be taken in the same army as Chaplain Cassius

Bolt pistol
Crozius Arcanum (S+2, AP4, melee, concussive)
frag/krak grenades
iron halo (the 4++ wargear, not sure what it is called)
special ammunition

Independant character
Zealot

Garran Branatar 60 points
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 2+ (unique)

Terminator armor
Heavy Flamer
Master crafted melta gun
Mastercrafted powerfist

And they shall know no fear
fearless (lol)
bulky
deepstrike
relentless

Master of fire:
Gains feel no pain against flamer weapons (as defined in the warhammer 40k rules). Also when using his heavy flamer he can reroll to wound rolls. And reroll failed armor pen rolls.

Antor Delassio 35 points
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 3+ (unique)

Hand flamer
chainsword
frag/krak grenades

And they shall know no fear
bulky
furious charge
deepstrike

Heroic intervention (same as Edryc Setorax)

Jetek Suberei 40 points
4 4 4 5 1 4 2 9 3+ (unique)

Twin linked boltgun
Power sword
frag/krak grenades
Special ammunition
Teleporter homer

Jink
split fire (i think)
and they shall know no fear
skilled rider
hammer of wrath
very bulky
relentless
Hit and run (thx BloodGrin)

Born in the saddle:
Jetek Suberei adds 1 to his strength when he resolves his hammer of wrath hits.

Squad Donatus 175 points
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 3+ (5 of them all unique)

Vael Donatus has a bolter and special ammunition
Drenn Redblade has a bolter, special ammunition and two close combat weapons
Rodricus Grytt has a Deatwatch Fragcannon
Ennox Sorrlock has a combi-melta and special ammunition
Zameon Gydrael has a plasma pistol and powersword
All have frag/krak grenades

And they shall know no fear
Counterattack (only redblade)
Precision shots (only Donatus)
Stubborn (only Gydrael) (thx Warhams-77)
Feel no pain 6+ (only Sorrlock)

Deathwatch frag cannon:
Frag shot: Template, S6, AP-, Assault 2 Rending
Some other shot: 24" S7, AP5, Assault 2

EDIT: have not seen a picture of the librarian yet, would love to translate it if anyone has it.

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

The more I try to clean up the image, the more I am sure that the Patriarch rolls for spells on Telepathy.

For the right points, a reasonable shot at Invisibility could be a real benefit for 'Nids, though the real boon would still be Purestrain Genestealers assaulting from Deepstrike.

**Azreal13**

Is it just me, or are all those USRs on all those characters going to make administering the unit formation in 40K an absolute ball ache?

**Kanluwen**

I am going to have SO MUCH FUN using these guys as attachments to my squads.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Azreal13 wrote:
Is it just me, or are all those USRs on all those characters going to make administering the unit formation in 40K an absolute ball ache?

it'll slow things down a bit,

but at the points cost you'll have less other stuff to worry about and since they'll be moving as a unit rather than wandering off by themselves that will help speed stuff up too

**M0ff3l**

Kanluwen wrote:
I am going to have SO MUCH FUN using these guys as attachments to my squads.

only cassius has independent character (librarian could also have it, havent seen his rules yet)

**BloodGrin**

M0ff3l wrote:
*rough-ish translation of the deathwatch rules, I know german, but I don't know some of the rule names in german*

Edryc Setorax 35 points
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 3+ (unique)

2 lightning claws
frag/krak grenades

and they shall know no fear
bulky
deepstrike
stealth

Attack from the shadows:
until the start of the second game turn, Edryx Setorax has the shrouded special rule

Winged Redemption:
Edryx Setorax can use his jump pack in the movement and the assault phase of the same turn. Additionally he can reroll failed hammer of wrath attacks.

Heroic intervention:
A unit with this special rule can reroll one or both of the dice when rolling charge distance. Aditionally he always passes a glorious intervention test.

Ortan Cassius 95 points
5 4 4 4 2 4 2 10 3+ (unique)

Cannot be taken in the same army as Chaplain Cassius

Bolt pistol
Crozius Arcanum (S+2, AP4, melee, concussive)
frag/krak grenades
iron halo (the 4++ wargear, not sure what it is called)
special ammunition

Independant character
Zealot

Garran Branatar 60 points
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 2+ (unique)

Terminator armor
Heavy Flamer
Master crafted melta gun
Mastercrafted powerfist

And they shall know no fear
fearless (lol)
bulky
deepstrike
relentless

Master of fire:
Gains feel no pain against flamer weapons (as defined in the warhammer 40k rules). Also when using his heavy flamer he can reroll to wound rolls. And reroll failed armor pen rolls.

Antor Delassio 35 points
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 3+ (unique)

Hand flamer
chainsword
frag/krak grenades

And they shall know no fear
bulky
furious charge
deepstrike

Heroic intervention (same as Edryc Setorax)

Jetek Suberei 40 points
4 4 4 5 1 4 2 9 3+ (unique)

Twin linked boltgun
Power sword
frag/krak grenades
Special ammunition
Teleporter homer

Jink
split fire (i think)
and they shall know no fear
skilled rider
hammer of wrath
very bulky
relentless
Zurückfallen (falling back, No idea what this special rule is, sorry)

Born in the saddle:
Jetek Suberei adds 1 to his strength when he resolves his hammer of wrath hits.

Squad Donatus 175 points
4 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 3+ (5 of them all unique)

Vael Donatus has a bolter and special ammunition
Drenn Redblade has a bolter, special ammunition and two close combat weapons
Rodricus Grytt has a Deatwatch Fragcannon
Ennox Sorrlock has a combi-melta and special ammunition
Zameon Gydrael has a plasma pistol and powersword
All have frag/krak grenades

And they shall know no fear
Counterattack (only redblade)
Precision shots (only Donatus)
Unnachbiegig (only Gydrael) -- Again, dont know what this special rule is, it would translate to doenst give up or something like that
Feel no pain 6+ (only Sorrlock)

Deathwatch frag cannon:
Frag shot: Template, S6, AP-, Assault 2 Rending
Some other shot: 24" S7, AP5, Assault 2

EDIT: have not seen a picture of the librarian yet, would love to translate it if anyone has it.

Zurückfallen = Hit and Run I believe

**Hulksmash**

Around 7ppm for the fearless, 4 attack on the charge, ws 4, st4, i4, rending and assault grenades is pretty dang sweet.

**aka_mythos**

Google's translates the name of the Raven Guard's special rule "Geflugelte Erlosung" as the "Poultry of Deliverance"... haha