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Well, there is that, though I'm not a big fan of doing that.

I like having the option to...

Oh, right...

Alpharius wrote:Ugh.
That's exactly what I was afraid of...
Oh well!
Can't wait for 6th then!

Wow, way to take someone's smartalecky answer for gospel. I don't understand why people like you and stelek and HBMC even bother with the game since it obviously causes you nothing but grief which you guys then feel necessary to burden everyone else with. Not everyone agrees with you and almost no one likes the negative attitude.

Not sure where you getting that doom and gloom from, though your response certainly wasn't a ray of sunshine either.

Now, I was being a bit dramatic, but you certainly don't have to be an accomplished reader of the Emperor's Tarot to see which way the wind is blowing, do you?

Or maybe you do?

Seriously though, I think H.M.B.C.'s observations/guesses are probably going to be spot on.

I hadn't paid much attention to how HQ choices were handled in the DA and BA mini-codices, but that probably is where we're headed, don't you think?

Some of the special character librarians might have an invulnerable save, so you could do "counts as."

I certainly will!

I can see a lot of 'counts as' in my future...

Yeah, there will probably be a lot of "counts as" in everybody's future.

neofright wrote:I don't understand why people like you and stelek and HBMC even bother with the game since it obviously causes you nothing but grief which you guys then feel necessary to burden everyone else with. Not everyone agrees with you and almost no one likes the negative attitude.

Hey don't lump me in with Stelek. I'm nothing like him. Everyone knows about the 8 games of 40K I win before breakfast every morning so I don't have to go around bragging to everyone about it.

I also have a sense of humour, something you seem to be lacking. Enough with the negative attitude!

BYE

neofright wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Ugh.
That's exactly what I was afraid of...
Oh well!
Can't wait for 6th then!

Wow, way to take someone's smartalecky answer for gospel. I don't understand why people like you and stelek and HBMC even bother with the game since it obviously causes you nothing but grief which you guys then feel necessary to burden everyone else with. Not everyone agrees with you and almost no one likes the negative attitude.

Quoted for truth.

Oh, and you forgot Fred Flinstone, Aba-doobie-dobie-whomever.

Personally, I love the negative attitude, provided it's expressed in a humorous fashion, something which HBMC and Abadabadoobaddon manage to achieve on a regular basis. Can't we all just lay off each other and go back to discussing Warhams?

Yeah seriously. A relentlessly positive attitude is pretty much the same as a negative one. No need to go for personal attacks.
Though it often provokes humourous responses I suppose, so maybe you should.

It is no more of a personal attack than saying "Jervis is an idiot" or "your opponents are idiots" or something along those lines.

HBMC - I will give you credit that you do make me laugh on occasion. :-)

The thing that bums me out about all of the bitching is that I used to send my friends who were interested in getting into the game over here and warseer because there was cool interesting discussion. I have had to stop that because 2 people have decided not to play after reading all the negativity. Which is really a drag, because most of the games are fun, most of the players are cool, even the bitchy poster ones who just seem to have some bizarre digital pms when it comes to posting.

Back on topic, saw 3 different CSM lists that played in absolutely different but effective ways, with what some call a boring, optionless list.

I have high hopes that something similar will be possible with Vanilla marines - fewer options that no one takes and more different ways to win, which is ultimately what it comes down to.

The speeder transport in particular seems like a really cool concept. I am not a fan of special characters, so will probably be disappointed by a dearth of non-named HQ choices...

Anyway, sorry to drag off topic a bit.