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Phanobi





Paso Robles, CA, USA

Thank you Lord Blackfang for basically taking us back to page 2 of this discussion.

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This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.

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Lets see the scammer's responses

First JO Confronts him about selling products different then what he adverticed.

Scammer tried to validate his sales by stating : 101 orks is 101 orks, which is what greentide is.
** does he talk about the missing weapons, missing accessories then? nope.

Then he tries to convince snap fit is actually a good thing .
** well maybe for him , but for hobbyists that likes to pose, convert , there is a huge difference

JO then tries to point out the shaddy parts.
Scammer proceeds to fall back on the " oh i have 600 feed back how can i be scammer"
** He used that excuse since when he was at 200 feed back, it means nothing.

A real legit seller will ALWAYS consider any suggestions brought up by customers especially ones with
clear valid points. Instead of falling back on excuses , or avoiding it altogether.

So hes not a full blown scammer with scams on every auction that will lead to his account ban nope.
But hes a petty scammer that takes advantage when he can.

Thats pretty pathetic in my book.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/Warhammer-40k-Land-Raider-Redeemer-Crusader-Tank-Bits_W0QQitemZ290292817632QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item290292817632&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318


Another one. I loled -_- Touche for HIGHLIGHTING 1 Land Raider Crusader/Redeemer Tank

while listing only parts to build the main body, doesnt even have the las cannons needed to be called a land raider,
never mind being Redeemer or Crusader.

When can he get in his head, thats not a crusader or redeemer tank if it doesnt have the components.


3 negatives 2 neutral in last month .

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SoCal, USA!

Meh, I say we just gang rape his auctions by mass-reporting them as fradulent / IP violation listings.

   
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First two were shady, latest one is a downright scam, it can't be a crusader/redeemer without sponsons.

Edit: I just realised this is the seller from the "State of the Ebay feedback system is terrible" thread! Haha, that Neutral feedback he got was Karma!

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Decrepit Dakkanaut





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LunaHound wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/Warhammer-40k-Land-Raider-Redeemer-Crusader-Tank-Bits_W0QQitemZ290292817632QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item290292817632&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318


Another one. I loled -_- Touche for HIGHLIGHTING 1 Land Raider Crusader/Redeemer Tank

while listing only parts to build the main body, doesnt even have the las cannons needed to be called a land raider,
never mind being Redeemer or Crusader.


The sad thing is I would buy this if I hadn't already built my Prometheus or if it had Lascannons so I could actually build my Helios.

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Neil wrote:First two were shady, latest one is a downright scam, it can't be a crusader/redeemer without sponsons.

Edit: I just realised this is the seller from the "State of the Ebay feedback system is terrible" thread! Haha, that Neutral feedback he got was Karma!


link to thread o.o if possible please? thanks in advance!

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LunaHound wrote:
link to thread o.o if possible please? thanks in advance!


http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/227555.page
   
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Nasty Nob





Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Who says people are never heard and listened to?

Dakka I present the latest line of comms with our friendly* neighbourhood ebay seller, with a new plan apparently.



Joyous_Oblivion wrote:Dear war_hammer_man,

I guess you never learn, and your poor business practice seems to work...

I have no idea why you listed this item as a Land Raider Redeemer/Crusader, when it is neither, it is not even a basic land raider.

List it properly as a Land Raider or even Land Raider, no weapons.

But I guess you can't do that as it might actually stop some of the idiots who bid on this from bidding.

Just so you know, you're name is becoming more and more known and I know a great deal of people who actively avoid your auctions now.

Try doing sales with some class...

- joyous_oblivion


Ok I was harsh, but I was getting fed up with his crap...

His reply out today...

The Warhammer Man wrote:Dear joyous_oblivion,

The reason this is listed as Land Raider Redeemer Crusader Tank Bits, is because thats where these tank bits came from, as you can see the rest of the guns, etc are listed separately. Thanks for the tip if you look at my new auctions i have removed all the pictures of the gw models and now only show my own photos of the actual sprues you will receive. I also have altered my rhino listings to make sure there is no doubt that the models you receive will not contain the upgrade sprue and as for the green tide i removed the bit about games workshops green tide and only use my pictures. so before you go pointing fingers again please educate yourself. as for this listing it was already posted. It was never my intention to mislead anyone. sometimes you just need an outsiders point of view. I do appreciate your input and hope these changes show my intentions to you and these other people you speak of.

- war_hammer_man


Joyous_Oblivion wrote:Dear war_hammer_man,

Excellent work sir, most excellent. I have a great deal of respect for people who can look at themselves, find fault and change it. A lot of people never change their ways. I hope you just aren't changing due to your recent negative feedback, but if thats what it takes, I'm glad you changed your ways. And I will be postign what you sent me on a couple forums so that hopefully people can cut you some slack.

Thanks

- joyous_oblivion



Well we shall see if he holds true to this slightly better practices now...

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Arkansas

Good to see he is changing his ways. kudos to you sir!

   
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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

And his final reply, which made me smile...

the warhammer man wrote:Dear joyous_oblivion,

Sometimes you have to take a step back and look at things from other peoples perspectives to realize fault. I realize that if you are a new player trying to save some money buying online that without adequate knowledge of the products that you could easily be disappointed. I have made steps to change this as the last thing i want to do is turn anyone away from the hobby. Again thanks for the imput

- war_hammer_man


Hope he means it, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I see otherwise.

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far away from Battle Creek, Michigan

The guy sounds like a sociopath. His auctions are clearly misleading. I like how he includes a GW photograph and states "photograph just for reference" (or something like that). Reference for what--so you know what you are not getting. Selling all those AOBR "still on the sprue!!!" as if they were the green tide is an attempt to con people.

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Olympia, please read the whole thread before commenting.

As Ozymandius said in response to Lord Blackfang, you are just trying to drag this thread back into the muck of page 2.

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