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Vaktathi wrote:Wow...that's...rather silly. The only proper response to that I can think of is "thank you for educating me, I'll find another game".

Some people take this game of plastic soldiers waaaaay too seriously sometimes. But, that applies to every hobby/sport out there.

Whatsit Tooya wrote:

hellrai3er wrote:Necrons, dam ugly minitures and they are blander then water. Followed directly by IG, exactly the same reason,

I completely agree

I think they WOULD be as bland as the stupid Guard if it weren`t for the green-ness.

Tau they are just a useless army with no real motivation

I've gotta' say Necrons, which I know will be unpopular, but here me out.

They're shinny Tomb Kings in space. But a least the Tomb Kings have character. The Necrons are mindless drone slaves, that instantly fall over and die if they go anywhere near Chaos or anything vaguely warpy.

Which sucks.


Although, on that logic, these guys will screw the Tau in a heartbeat. Which would be good, because I don't like them either, but that's another story altogether.

They predate tomb kings IIRC. I think it was just 'Undead' back then...

Who said they shut down near chaos? The warp is anathema to the C'tan , but it says jack about the necrons themselves in any fluff i've read (there are some i haven't read, so shoot me ) about them switching off if a daemon lands on their world

The Necrons don't like parties. Jello makes them cranky. The tau have learned this the hard way.

Jello is evil..

im2randomghgh wrote:

Whatsit Tooya wrote:

hellrai3er wrote:Necrons, dam ugly minitures and they are blander then water. Followed directly by IG, exactly the same reason,

I completely agree

I think they WOULD be as bland as the stupid Guard if it weren`t for the green-ness.

A dash of green doesnt make up for the rest of the modle being all the same colour, even on the really well painted ones. That and every unit looks the same, some just bended in a different fassion! Still I love that the armies all look different and even the one i don't like some will love, be boring as hell to play if everyone liked one race!

The Demons(daemons?) because they are horrible to play against. I get a nice deployment set up, and BAM!!! Deep strike every where! demons...

-cgmckenzie

Cybronx wrote.

Grey Knights, they're completely unneccessary. I thought Space Marines were supposed to be super soldiers, but no, we have to have SUPER super soldiers.
It's like a bunch of developers sat around smoking dope, trying to make the "coolest army ever." They thought they were being badass naming the GK the
"666th Chapter." Then they gave them all the "OFMGZ STOARM BOHLTARS AND FOURCE WEAPONS." But that wasn't enough. They had to add "PSYCHIHC WEAPOUNRY" and make them "UNCORUPTABLE BECUZ THEY'RE THE CHOZEN UNES MEHDE FRUHM THE EMPRAS' JEAN SEEEHD."
It's sickening.

Is it just me or is reading this post from an Ultramarine guy (can't be just normal super soldiers they have the be Ultra super soldiers from an Ultra place...) Just dripping with Irony?

Also why does it look like all the marine color schemes in the original Rogue Trader were from a weekend McDonalds coloring contest? "Here lil Jimmy, stay between the lines and use whatever colors you like and if you give them a neat name you might win a big mac and a sunday!"

It's clear to me the most hated army in 40k is the squats hence why I'm building retro style space dwarves but come on I'll happily play any army in the known multiverse but another generic primary colour marrine with vampire teen age self harmers or fur pelt junkies with a ineptitude to shave or the over zealous bible bashing twits.

Squats aren't hated (well, except by GW). They're just under-repped, since most people play the most recent editions, which don't have Squat codices.

samtheking wrote:Tau they are just a useless army with no real motivation

No motivation? Survival? Manifest Destiny? Expansion of the Empire? They are one of (if not the) most motivated races in wh40k.


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hellrai3er wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Whatsit Tooya wrote:

hellrai3er wrote:Necrons, dam ugly minitures and they are blander then water. Followed directly by IG, exactly the same reason,

I completely agree

I think they WOULD be as bland as the stupid Guard if it weren`t for the green-ness.

A dash of green doesnt make up for the rest of the modle being all the same colour, even on the really well painted ones. That and every unit looks the same, some just bended in a different fassion! Still I love that the armies all look different and even the one i don't like some will love, be boring as hell to play if everyone liked one race!

I actually painted mine Chainmail with black stripling done (lightly). I thought they would be ugly, but they're nice

My mate painted his pink...

14% says you love them all even blood angles

Is it weird that I don't hate any of these armies? I like all of their fluff and the way they look? I am going insane?!!!

Chaos Daemons and Marines need a unified codex, so Chaos Daemons gets my vote

Lobukia wrote:Chaos Daemons and Marines need a unified codex, so Chaos Daemons gets my vote

Well....we kinda do but the daemons in the Chaos Marines Codex are kinda..well they suck

Tau, god I hate the Tau. What's the point in them? Any other faction could crush them no effort, and yet the Tau players still stand up for them like they're an invincible mary-sue be-all and end-all faction that can defeat everyone.
Hypocrisy!

+1 for the CSM+ Daemon idea.

I miss my daemons doing gak. Then again I miss my codex actually doing gak...

I hated the Tau when they first came out because I felt they didn't fit the setting, but now I just friendly hate them. Those jerks you love to hate, kind of thing. I don't have a problem with any army now.

Even Blood Angles. Heck, even Right Angles!

Commander Endova wrote:I went with Chaos Deamons/Chaos Space Marines. I don;t think that they should get rid of those books, just sort of combine them.

I second that!!!

DarkLight451 wrote:Is it weird that I don't hate any of these armies? I like all of their fluff and the way they look? I am going insane?!!!

it is very odd Jk its the most Popper answer


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htj wrote:I hated the Tau when they first came out because I felt they didn't fit the setting, but now I just friendly hate them. Those jerks you love to hate, kind of thing. I don't have a problem with any army now.

Even Blood Angles. Heck, even Right Angles!

how do tau not fit the setting there blue

And Ultramarines are the color of human flesh, what's your point?

I've probably missed the point but hey, credit for trying.

Warboss ZanZag wrote:I am amazed that no one has picked Eldar yet?.

That's because Eldar don't have OP units. In fact, since the 5th ed rules (Especially Run) Eldar have become rather average GEQ. Anyway, where would you be without Eldar? The Alpha Legion would still be loyalists, Ghazghkull wouldn't be any bigger than a nob, the Ultramarines would have been eaten by Hive Fleet Behemoth, Slaanesh wouldn't exist and many wargamers would be deprived of the most awe inspiring model range ever.

Don't you mean Kraken? Behemoth had nearly nothing to do with The Eldar. Even then, it was a completely separate battle, and the chapter was unspecified so Thraka would likely have turned out the same. If that is what you mean.

dagsta2 wrote:14% says you love them all even blood angles

That 14% can go die for the sin of being Space Marines players. Except Grey Knights. We have something special planned for them. If you could all line up at that small guillotine by the corner...

iproxtaco wrote:Don't you mean Kraken? Behemoth had nearly nothing to do with The Eldar. Even then, it was a completely separate battle.

See Malantai and the other two craftworlds that spent time and resources attacking Behemoth in the back.

Interestingly the 4th Ed battle for macragge rulebook said that Iyanden was attacked by Behemoth. Apparently GW possesses some device that allows them to re-write time.

Commander Endova wrote:I went with Chaos Deamons/Chaos Space Marines. I don;t think that they should get rid of those books, just sort of combine them.

That would be nice for us Chaos players

dagsta2 wrote:how do tau not fit the setting there blue

When they came out they felt quite radically different from the themes of the other armies that were already in the game. The similarities to mecha in various anime series was off putting to a lot of people, myself included, who saw them as a cynical cash-in, exploiting the burgeoning popularity of Japanese comics and animation. Heck, I was very into anime and manga at the time, and I still found them unwelcome.

However, the key thing to take from what I said is my use of the past tense. I don't feel that way anymore. Time is a healer, after all, and now they have been in the setting long enough that they don't feel out of place. I guess if you came into the game after they were released, they wouldn't seem out of place at all, since they were an integral part of the 40K universe from the get-go for you.

Several Eldar Craftworlds sent resources to eliminate Hive Fleet Naga, a separate fleet from Behemoth.

It's a distinct lack of continuity that's very confusing. Adding all these extra fleets is not something I like. Behemoth, Kraken, Leviathan, that's all that should in my opinion exist.

iproxtaco wrote:Several Eldar Craftworlds sent resources to eliminate Hive Fleet Naga, a separate fleet from Behemoth.

It's a distinct lack of continuity that's very confusing. Adding all these extra fleets is not something I like. Behemoth, Kraken, Leviathan, that's all that should in my opinion exist.

Agreed. That's what splinter fleets are for.

Another thing I realized I don't like about the latest Tyranid codex, aside from the general weakness of most of the units and the absence of some of the best.

Still, Tau is my least favorite. I like nearly nothing about them anymore.

iproxtaco wrote:Another thing I realized I don't like about the latest Tyranid codex, aside from the general weakness of most of the units and the absence of some of the best.

Still, Tau is my least favorite. I like nearly nothing about them anymore.

I really don't mind Tau. At least they're well balanced. GKs on the other hand... Then blood angels. Orks are in serious need of an upgrade. It's pretty easy to totally outmatch them, even with the seriously dated Eldar codex.

And if anyone complains about Eldar fire dragons, T3, 4+ sv and 16 pts each. They die like guardsmen, even from a falcon or WS.