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None of them! I love all my grimdark little gits.

Noah da guardsmen wrote:Dark eldar are a bunch of torture and sex freaks. Wierdoes

There's a reason why the depraved play DE.

Cybronx wrote:Grey Knights, they're completely unneccessary. I thought Space Marines were supposed to be super soldiers, but no, we have to have SUPER super soldiers.
It's like a bunch of developers sat around smoking dope, trying to make the "coolest army ever." They thought they were being badass naming the GK the
"666th Chapter." Then they gave them all the "OFMGZ STOARM BOHLTARS AND FOURCE WEAPONS." But that wasn't enough. They had to add "PSYCHIHC WEAPOUNRY" and make them "UNCORUPTABLE BECUZ THEY'RE THE CHOZEN UNES MEHDE FRUHM THE EMPRAS' JEAN SEEEHD."
It's sickening.

You just mad your ultramarines aren't the ultra anymore ;D

Grey Knights are just OP, and i really don't like the new version of them; whereas the previous versions, fluff, and ideas behind them are great! I like daemonhunters, however, just not Grey Knights.

Eldar, they get really annoying! ! !

Grey Knights rule they are super super soldiers

I don't really hate any of them.....tbh they all have their parts to play in the grimdark world.....

As an Ork player for which army i hate to face the most it is any of the Marine forces. From a fluff standpoint it has to be a tie for Ultrasmurfs and Space Puppies, the concept of Vikings in space just seems too bizarre to me, and the "we are the best of the best of the best of the best" for the smurfs just irks me.

i dont want the SM Chapters Gone, i just would like every other race to have some of the benifits to diversity. So far the only races to really get into detail with their different subfactions are the SMs, Demons, and CSM. I wouldnt mind an extra codex or two for things such as:

Craftworld Eldar Perks (much akin to Space Wolves compaired to Ultras, Black Temps, Etc.)
Kabal Dark Eldar Perks
Standard Tau Sept (true tau combat doctrine) vs Farsight Enclave (Yay, free knife. Whoop-de-fething-doo)
C'Tan specific Tombs (I'd reckon the Nightbring having different preferences to battle than the Deceiver)
True IG regiment perks, Like Mordian having an army-wide Acute Senses (given where they where founded and trained) or desert Raiders with Hit-and-Run.
And i Almost forgot about Da Ork Klans

Other than the Space Marines, and Demons, the most other armies get is two to six special Characters. . . compared to two to six extra Codexes.

Seems everybody like shooting orks and killing dozens of them

I just picked all Marines. It's not that I 'hate' them, I'm just really tired of always playing against Marines of one color or another. Honestly though, my least favorite would have to be Chaos Marines... I get it, you're spikey and angry and enjoy skulls, now get over it!

All the 'special' types of Space Marines. Either chapters shouldn't get their own codex, or every different faction of every different race should get their own. Grey Knights I consider different enough, though, that they can stay, but most of the rest just have a single different rule, or a special character or two, or different wargear options, which really don't need a whole nother book to go through.

I pick no one, because I feel like in the fluff, they all play some sort of important part in the 40k universe. If you remove one, at first it may seem cool, but then you realize there is a hole missing in that part of the fluff, and it just doesn't feel right.

Tau are a great example of this. they seem insignificant (Indeed, if they were hit by a crushing offensive from any of the other races, they would perish) but their place as "A gasp of life" in the dying universe (even though its debatable if the Tau are any better than the IoM) plays an important part in the story as a whole.

Would I do some changes to the rules for some balance? Yes, some of the "Special" SM chapters could use a tad of balancing, but they aren't broken to the point of removal.And combinations could be made, Like DSM and Daemons could be combined, along with all the SM chapters, but outright remove them from the fluff totally?

No, I'm not going to launch exterminatus on any race.

Grey Knights. And before you put that down to 'OMG NEW CODEX THE SKY IZ FALLING!!!1!!1' syndrome, I disliked Grey Knights even before the new book.

Lol the Matt Ward Codices are getting some hate.

Hmm..

*best Sigmund freud accent impersonation"

Zere must be a reason for this irrational hatred of one author.. It seems to be a growing mental contagion..

*reads codex, sat comfortably on the psychiatrist's couch*

Zere is ze reason! He sucks!

I knew I was right in picking Orks! Everyone loves them gits!

Noah da guardsmen wrote:Dark eldar are a bunch of torture and sex freaks. Wierdoes

+1. They should have been PIRATES, according to 2nd ed., and then they wouldn't have looked like adolescent Mr. Slave wannabes.

I voted Tau because you guys look like a bunch of Gundam fanbois and I hate having to get out of my pirate ship just to kill you little Jump-Shoot-Jump fairies >.<

Oh yeah, and you can't hate Orks. You just can't. Wittwe cuddwy, wuvwy balls of greenness.

I like how ever single army has got at least a few votes.

I like them all, but it would have been quite nice if demons were back in CSM.

Grey Knights. Just don't see why they are a fieldable army. They should have been an elite choice in the SM book.

Dark Angels were my first army, back in Rogue Trader days.

They were cool back then.

Still are, just in bad need of a new codex

There is nothing I enjoy more than wiping the floor with Eldar remains, they die so easily.
Sweeping their infantry away is satisfying.
Melting their pathetic tanks is blissful.
Psychic hood-ing their favourite powers.
Survivng everything they throw at you.
War? No. Target practice.

Wise Guy Sam wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:

Wise Guy Sam wrote:I say all the different colour marines.

If only because they could easily still exsist in the standard space marine dex with a special character or 2.

Fixed that for you

I don't hate any army. They are plastic toys

Cheers silver, this is pretty much the truth of it. ...

Amen to that.

Who thought it would be a good idea to make a new space marine codex every other update again? The SM codex already costs more, why not put all of those books in the big SM book anyways?

Commander Endova wrote:I went with Chaos Deamons/Chaos Space Marines. I don;t think that they should get rid of those books, just sort of combine them.

Much agreed I have never seen a purely daemon army just, the csm and daemons always fight together

I don't like grey knights. I dislike the idea of another marine codex, with added elite sauce.

We have the elite of the elite, then we have more elite on top of that, just with horrible, shiny unfinished armour and every soldier has magical powers.

They should be part of C:SM as elite choices, not a whole army.

I like all the races, some I prefer, of course, but there's at least something I like about each one.

For example, I can't stand the Blood Angels codex, not crying 'OMG OP!!!1' or anything, just lots of little things annoy me, but their range has some nice looking models in it.

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NoBaconz4You wrote:They should be part of C:SM as elite choices, not a whole army.

They did that kind of thing in the Dawn Of War games and I always thought it made more sense to me than them being fielded as an entire army.

DrownedRat117 wrote:There is nothing I enjoy more than wiping the floor with Eldar remains, they die so easily.
Sweeping their infantry away is satisfying.
Melting their pathetic tanks is blissful.
Psychic hood-ing their favourite powers.
Survivng everything they throw at you.
War? No. Target practice.

never been up against a competent Eldar player then?

Hard to sweep infantry when they are inside Wave serpents. Melta doesn't work well on them except from behind.

Holofields and stones are pathetic? I'd say annoying

How are those runes of f-u treating your psykers

Lances and starcannon, baby... they make marines go eep!



And no, I don't play eldar currently. I play someone regularly who does, and he's a damn good player with them

I fully go along with your eldar-stomping sympathies though


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NoBaconz4You wrote:They should be part of C:SM as elite choices, not a whole army.

They did that kind of thing in the Dawn Of War games and I always thought it made more sense to me than them being fielded as an entire army.

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Commander Endova wrote:I went with Chaos Deamons/Chaos Space Marines. I don;t think that they should get rid of those books, just sort of combine them.

I hope they never combine them again. I would never play a whinyboy marines army (IE, all chaos space marines, the only faction whose fluff I honestly dislike), but I WOULD potentially play a chaos daemons army.

For my part, if I HAD to get rid of stuff? I'd combine the marine factions into one book with options to customize (an assault based army with elite scouts and etc to represent wolves and templar, a mobility based bikes/jump troops army to represent blood angels and white scars, shooty based army to represent dark angels and etc) its FoC.

QFT

All these marine factions are slowing down the bringing-up-to-date of all the 4ed codices. Just add some special characters, chapter specific units, and (as Melissia said) cusotmizable FoC.

Don't understand all this anti-Tau hating, they have fluff that actually makes sense *cough* unlikeGreyKnightsbathinginthebloodoftheSistersofBattle *cough*