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Black Templar vs. Eldar.

If I'm wrong I'll eat an entire box of cookies.

I doubt a new set will come any time soon. nothing seems to be changing right now.

I doubt it will be the necrons because they should get released soon but if they don't then they stand a good chance to be in the next starter set.

chaos and necrons are my guess with SM

Noisy_Marine wrote:I think the current rumor is demons vs. black templars.

That would make sense. They're some of the most straight-forward armies. Marines-shoot at hordes, charge at Geq. Daemons-charge.

Not like some of the other races (Tau, De, Necrons for example) where you actually need a well defined, situation specific strategy.

dariakus wrote:Black Templar vs. Eldar.

If I'm wrong I'll eat an entire box of cookies.

I'll be joining you, though I am prone to that anyways.

Kettu wrote:You paint them black?
It costs you $30 to paint them black?

I... Really have to know where you buy your paints. For that kind of money that had better be good.

Nice zing post. He was referring to the 33$ Upgrade kit that only includes enough tabards and chainswords for 5 Initiates, [Mod Edit - Please do NOT resort to that kind of talk here on Dakka Dakka].

im2randomghgh wrote:

Noisy_Marine wrote:I think the current rumor is demons vs. black templars.

That would make sense. They're some of the most straight-forward armies. Marines-shoot at hordes, charge at Geq. Daemons-charge.

Daemons have to start the game in reserve and enter via deep strike. That alone takes them out of the normal rules.

unless they are in for a rewrite

They also tend to simplify the rules for the starter box armies (and let you learn the full rules as you go.)

Little do you all realize this will be the expansion in which we get a clearer view of how the Adeptes Terra work since they will be taking over for the Emperor completely once He dies. They've basically been running the show anyway. On one side we will have the Adeptes Administratium-Administratium; The apparatus that oversees the beurocratic infrastructure of the Imperium. It is they who decides who is put in a position to promote someone to the rank of Planetary Governor for instance, and they that write the guidelines for how field administrators determine planetary and sector tax and conscription rates. Most of their models will be beurocrats (think slightly less militant inquisitorial henchmen) and servitors, with a single squad of riot gun/stunner maul toting guards.

On the other side will be the forces of the Adeptes Estate Imperium Janatoriallis, the cleaning and maintinance division of the records department of The Empire of Man. The box set will include two squads of menial lobotomized cleaning drones armed with mops and Power Squeegies. There will also be a multi-part vehicle kit for a waste disposal unit, three non-lobotomized adeptus menialus overseers with data-slates and keyrings, and an impressive Master Of The Cleaning Supplies model who gives bonus' to all friendly units within 18".

The scenario will follow a heretical work-slowdown protesting the classification of the Master Of The Cleaning Supplies as having reached his professional capacity and thus being non-promotable anywhere in the Adeptes Terra.

My source spoke on the condition of anonymity, but this is the real deal guys! I'm stoked!

Indiges wrote:Little do you all realize this will be the expansion in which we get a clearer view of how the Adeptes Terra work since they will be taking over for the Emperor completely once He dies. They've basically been running the show anyway. On one side we will have the Adeptes Administratium-Administratium; The apparatus that oversees the beurocratic infrastructure of the Imperium. It is they who decides who is put in a position to promote someone to the rank of Planetary Governor for instance, and they that write the guidelines for how field administrators determine planetary and sector tax and conscription rates. Most of their models will be beurocrats (think slightly less militant inquisitorial henchmen) and servitors, with a single squad of riot gun/stunner maul toting guards.

On the other side will be the forces of the Adeptes Estate Imperium Janatoriallis, the cleaning and maintinance division of the records department of The Empire of Man. The box set will include two squads of menial lobotomized cleaning drones armed with mops and Power Squeegies. There will also be a multi-part vehicle kit for a waste disposal unit, three non-lobotomized adeptus menialus overseers with data-slates and keyrings, and an impressive Master Of The Cleaning Supplies model who gives bonus' to all friendly units within 18".

The scenario will follow a heretical work-slowdown protesting the classification of the Master Of The Cleaning Supplies as having reached his professional capacity and thus being non-promotable anywhere in the Adeptes Terra.

My source spoke on the condition of anonymity, but this is the real deal guys! I'm stoked!

I'm sure my source said that was a new Space Hulk expansion, not a 40k one. It turns the space ship corridors and rooms into those of one of the many palaces on Earth. The mops will allow the Janitoriallis player to secretly mark corridors as "wet & slippy", which causes an Initiative check. Passing reduces movement; failure means the Administratum model falls over, dropping all his paperwork everywhere.

After reading this same thread across multiple sites the most likely one that I've heard is BT vs CSM to coincide with the MMO release.

Droma wrote:After reading this same thread across multiple sites the most likely one that I've heard is BT vs CSM to coincide with the MMO release.

GW doesn't design their product to fascilitate cross-promotion with people/companies who license their IP. Never have and likely never will.

Would love it to be Space Wolves Vs Thousand Sons....

Not going to happen but would be cool.

endtransmission wrote:

I'm sure my source said that was a new Space Hulk expansion, not a 40k one. It turns the space ship corridors and rooms into those of one of the many palaces on Earth. The mops will allow the Janitoriallis player to secretly mark corridors as "wet & slippy", which causes an Initiative check. Passing reduces movement; failure means the Administratum model falls over, dropping all his paperwork everywhere.

I am reminded of The Janitor from Scrubs threatening "Get me a new uniform or I will wax everything in your world."

If this starter set had to have Space Marines, I can see one way to redeem it:

Only include Mk 3-5 suits of power armour.

I'll jus tbe happy if there is equal points in the thing... space marines have a huge avantage over orks in AoBR and while i do play against people with the origional set of models as an intro i either give them more space marines if i'm orks or pull off some marines to even out poins if i'm marines. equal number unites would rock so i can see BT vs chaos marines, or eldar provided the model numbers are about equal and they have similar stats

I can guarantee it won't include Guardsmnen.

I'm not really sure what it could be. IF we assume that everything is correct, and there are no xenos, or guard, then all we have left is:
Space Marines and they're flavors(excluding Ultramarines)
Witch Hunters
Grey Knights
Chaos Marines
Chaos Demons

My initial thought would be Grey Knights against Chaos marines, but I got to thinking, if this was the starter set, why would they make it marines against marines?

I don;t think they would include Demons just because of how difficult to play. They wouldl'nt help newer people understand the basics of deployment, armor saves(everythings invulnerable), or shooting on the deamons part.

Sister of battle are a no too.


I'm not really sure what it could be.

Maybe the rumormonger meant 'no existing xenos' and we'll get a new race. Wishlisting to the max, but hey, all these humans everywhere gets a bit tedious..

Personally i'd love a traitors codex (traitor guard, csm, etc)

...unrelated, anyone else wondering where GW is going with the "Star Child" fluff?

They're obviously not gonna kill off the EoM, but still, wondering where their gonna take it...

It might not be so far flung that they'll kill the Emporer in the future, actually. It would be an interesting change of events.

The only "change of events" GW care about is their next price raise.

Sethoroth Massivemune wrote:It might not be so far flung that they'll kill the Emporer in the future, actually. It would be an interesting change of events.

I can't see it, part of the 40k universe is the motif of stagnation in eternal war. I personally not mind it, but it would require a lot of proper writing to define the new Imperium.

Movac wrote:

Sethoroth Massivemune wrote:It might not be so far flung that they'll kill the Emporer in the future, actually. It would be an interesting change of events.

I can't see it, part of the 40k universe is the motif of stagnation in eternal war. I personally not mind it, but it would require a lot of proper writing to define the new Imperium.

Anyone other than Dan Abnett would feth it up, hard.

so, judging from past GW, they might, just to feth it up.

Or they could leave it to Black Library, the IOM's Propaganda office