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Some modals may be designed to be black.Or white.And it's not my rule it's the rule of my FLGS.Which makes it my rule.

Nicholas wrote:Woh woh woh what were you thinking with this one

It sounds fun, at first... and, for a brief time, it may well be...

... but it all too quickly becomes its own circle of Hell.

In regards to all of you who don't want to play against kids because their models arn't painted, or look terrible, I don't understand you. So many more older players probably have not painted their army than younger players, because younger players, or kids as your calling them, have more time for it.

Rather a generalization there. While I have hundreds of as-yet-unpainted miniatures, I won't so much as play a game of Blood Bowl without my team being fully painted, converted and what-not.

young gamers are probably more passionate than us older ones(18+)

we older gamers(18+) often get corrupted/distracted mainly from sex, drugs, alcohol and careers
those younger gamers aren't, so they're able to concentrate more without taking on to much responsibilities and are free to let there imaginations run wild over hobby limitations even though most lack money

i was only 12 when i first started and warhammer was my religion,
now that im 22 i have responsibilities and find it harder than ever to free myself some time on warhammer even though i have more money than when i was young

it depends on the gamer, i dont age is a factor

Ahh. Well that stinks.

Considering this a game of plastic toy soldiers, aren't we all kids at heart? I've never considered age as a factor in my wargamming. I've faced everything from grizzled long-beards to snot-nosed kids and in the end it's all about wether or not I had fun. TBH i didn'tthink a younger croud really played 40k. I don't see much evidence of it in my community. I first got into 40k my freshmen year in highschool at the original Dakka Dakka building in NH. We had a few kids there and I'm sure I was considered one of them for many years. There were some small problems I had with kids there. For instance one would build his calvary models by filling the horses with glue, another would continously build conversions and never paint or play (he became very inspired with warhammer and is now becomeing a green barret lol). But, as these examples show, I have a problem with kids in the hobby. Not the game.

To cover a few points brought up previously:

I can't count how many times I've shown up to a tournament with the only fully painted army (Painting has nothing to do with age).

I have seen "kids" throw models in the trash because they "suck" and I've seen "adults" throw Daemon Princes across the room because of... well I don't know why but man did that Prince shatter. (I'm guilty of crushing my devistators in my fist for failing to hit anything....20 games in a row. But in this case my friends knew that and laughed at the marines misfortune). Age has nothing to do with self control.

Pokemon is a big game in my state. I think I'm partially responcable. "Pokemon Night" at burger king was a good thing for me. I taught an army of kids (and their parents) how to play, trade and sell cards. I was able to collect the whole first set. (MtG is way better BTW).

Oh, and as for smashing a childs model with a hammer... If it were my model (at that age and time in my life) you'd never make it out the door. And if my father had found out about it (at that age and time in my life) I'd own the gaming store.

Sorry for the rant. I haven't been on these forums in sometime. Life and all that.

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at the school league I saw 13 year olds with more skill than some adults I know....nuff said

though then again the shrill high pitch voices do make me reach for my blast master every now and then

I'm 13 and I think I have passion for the hobby, I paint my armies and I've learnt the rules. I also play fairly and don't mind loosing, is that mature enough?

And besides it's just a hobby right?

Only if the little kid in quetion knows what they're doing. If they have to ask you about every rule and every stat line of every unit in the game then no.

or if they cast "unleash rage" after losing a battle :/

This thread is made of pure win. I can't stop laughing at the first comments

Personally I have no problem with younger players, as long as they understand the rules and don't start whining when they lose. I once played against a nine-year-old, who had built his tyranid army wrong (I mean illegally). After just three turns, I handed his ass to him. And what do you know? He threw his hive tyrant to the ground, sweeped his gaunts across the room, and we had to call his mother to calm him down.

Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:This thread is made of pure win. I can't stop laughing at the first comments

Personally I have no problem with younger players, as long as they understand the rules and don't start whining when they lose. I once played against a nine-year-old, who had built his tyranid army wrong (I mean illegally). After just three turns, I handed his ass to him. And what do you know? He threw his hive tyrant to the ground, sweeped his gaunts across the room, and we had to call his mother to calm him down.

Such situations are fortunately the exceptions rather than the rule.

When I first started playing WH40k when I was 13, I didn't know the rules. I learned to play by gaming with my friends of similar age. I'd ask them how far my units could move, what I needed to hit and wound, and pretty much about everything that wasn't described in the Codex. I didn't have my own copy of the core rulebook, because money for me was scarce back then - my allowance was 2 dollars and 50 cents a week if I cleaned my room - and I'd rather spend my money on minis and brushes and paint. My Eldar armies were often illegal lists - as I recall, I had a single Eldar Guardian Jetbike as its own unit. When I lost, which was easily every game I played or close to it, sure I felt a bit down - and who doesn't when they lose? - but I always came back for more.

I don't recall any of my friends throwing fits about losing, either. Even the really young kid who played - probably 8 or 9 years old - didn't throw fits.

Every miniature I had back then was painted. Maybe not superbly or even well, but I did paint them. These days, now that I'm 22 and will be 23 in a couple of weeks, I have more unpainted and unprimed miniatures than I do painted ones. I dunno why, but painting isn't as enjoyable as it used to be. Maybe I just have more ways to get gratification, or maybe it's that I'm now spending more than 10 times as much on miniatures as I was back then, and the sheer volume is daunting... Whatever the reason, the armies I field all have unpainted miniatures in them.

Of course, that's all just my experience.

I dont mind, I mean I'v seen some very mature 10 year old that get the game perfectly. Actually, I mind my friends, they aren't little, but if they get one wound on Mephiston(even worse if 2 at a time), they are VERY immature about it

whats so bad about mephiston? why is he so hard to wound that they glorify in it?

Sabet wrote:whats so bad about mephiston? why is he so hard to wound that they glorify in it?

Because Meph is secretly a Demon, acording to his stat line.

Overall, I think the hobby recreates our inner kid, do you agree?

Somewhat, it is just like other hobbies really; relieves stress. Probably why people try to avoid versing little kids when possible. Some might be mature enough to be like versing anyone else whilst others can come across as extremely annoying (my space marines, let me give you a 10 minute speech about why they are soooo awesome and make your guys look like crap).

The annoying types who have a little tantrum when the game shifts slightly away from exactly where they want it are not age exclusive, just more likely to appear at certain age brackets.

Lord of Baal wrote:Overall, I think the hobby recreates our inner kid, do you agree?

Possibly, I played the game back in second ed. and I started again in 5th not because of nostalgia or wanting to be Peter Pan but because I remember how much fun it was. I have more money to spend on the hobby, I have a better understanding of how to play now and it also keeps me out of the pub, much to my other halfs delight.

I don't mind who I play, as long as they aren't going to throw a wobbly. I try to avoid the younger players as they sometimes want to play with everything they have ...

So you have Orks, Space Marines and Tyranids on the table ... ok ... have you done an army list ... no ... ok ...

I really have no problem with kids playing 40K. In fact, our FLGS could use a few more members. What I'm worried about is the fact that the fluff is going to warp their soul(it's the originator of Grim Dark for a reason).

Ha ha ha I have played a kid like that Pilau. I even know people my age who do that like for exmaple chaoslordsam. It's quite funny even though he older...(uLtRaNoOb) what a neophyte.

Lord of Baal wrote:Do you like little kids playing warhammer 40k? I don't. I think they are a bit too immature and they don't have a passion for the hobby. What do you think?

You are 12. Who are you to say others are too immature, and more so, who are you to say how much passion anyone else has for anything? Troll less.

I dont mind playing against younglings, but I am aware I have to consciously watch my language.

I remember once watching a game between a twenty-something and a tweenie. The kids was good and watching the adult's face as his units died in droves was priceless!

Plus it's a fun opportunity to prat around a bit, kids always seem to enjoy watching an adult do the machinegun dance (you know hold your hands if if you've got a machine gun, jerk aroun and make 'dakka dakka dakka' noises) or slow motion diving (going 'nooooooooooooooooo' in slow mo while falling to the ground)

Fun times!

coolyo294 wrote:I have no problem with them if they have a basic understanding of the game and don't annoy the hell out of me.

+1

In many cases, I'd rather play against a 12 year old who's excited about the game and really into it and wants to learn and have fun, than a fat smelly 40 year old who's going to quote every rule verbatim only when it's to his benefit and try to sneak little cheat moves in when I'm not looking and act like a crybaby when his favorite unit gets blown away.

Necros wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:I have no problem with them if they have a basic understanding of the game and don't annoy the hell out of me.

+1

In many cases, I'd rather play against a 12 year old who's excited about the game and really into it and wants to learn and have fun, than a fat smelly 40 year old who's going to quote every rule verbatim only when it's to his benefit and try to sneak little cheat moves in when I'm not looking and act like a crybaby when his favorite unit gets blown away.

Quoted for truth.
Who misses people who make up/cheat rules and then claim "back in 1st/2nd/3rd edition they could do that. i must have got my codex mixed up"? or any number of neckbeard cheat/exploits.

No Lying

No Cheating

No Stealing-The Imperial Way

I have a friend who I go to Games Workshop LA Battle Bunker With, he tries to get me to roll the dice cocked, but I didn't, haven't, won't and I ended up telling our opponents he was cheating. And he was on my team. It's Chaoslordsam and it shouldn't be tolerated, the Chaos has possessed him!

I don't understand how people keep getting into gaming situations where they don't have a good time or at least a path to one. How is it that the OP HAS to play with little kids and then begin a thread about the issue. Is it that bad out there that no one has a choice and issues like this keep croping up?

Maybe I'm spoiled, but the only "kids" I ever see playing this game are those brought along by adults. Usually, those kids are well behaved and just enjoy being part of the group.

The last time I experienced any problems with kids was at a local GW store. Most of the time the parent wasn't there. Instead, the other gamers and myself were the unwitting stooges in an ad-hoc baby-sitting scheme.

Hahaha thats funny

I played by first game of Space Hulk aged 8, so I can't criticise young kids too much. I guess kids get a bad rep, I don't recall what I've said in the thread before, I wouldn't play children now unless they were family/friends. But in truth, there's a fair few adults that act like spoilt brats.

As long as they either understand the game, or are willing to listen to and understand your explanations.