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Do you like little kids playing warhammer 40k? I don't. I think they are a bit too immature and they don't have a passion for the hobby. What do you think?

Define -Little-

I have no problem with them if they have a basic understanding of the game and don't annoy the hell out of me.

Dark Angels Champ-Master wrote: I think they are a bit too immature and they don't have a passion for the hobby. What do you think?

I think that's one hell of a generalisation, right there.

Define 'little'... or 'a bit too immature'...

I've met 40-year-olds playing this game who I feel are 'a little too immature' for it, so that's not really a guideline.

And I've met 12-year-olds with more 'passion for the hobby' than many of the adults. For a lot of kids, it's still all exciting and new... they haven't lost that passion after years of rebuilding armies, relearning the same game every time a codex or rulebook is renewed, or just gotten fed up with year after year of the same old same old from Games Workshop.


SO no, I have no problem with 'little' kids playing 40K, specificially. If they want to play, and they can handle the rules, why shouldn't they?

coolyo294 wrote:I have no problem with them if they have a basic understanding of the game and don't annoy the hell out of me.

This, also if they can take a loss. I've played kids before ie. 12-13ish and i find that they can't take a defeat, after the game they're down faced and pack up real quick. Other than that i think it's fair game and it's good to have the next gen of 40kers. After all, we all had to start some time.

insaniak wrote:
And I've met 12-year-olds with more 'passion for the hobby' than many of the adults.

Group Age Size as of july first
12,15,16,17
Group Age Size as of July Second
13,15,16,17

Im the Lowest,me and the 17 year old( We are all neighbors the 15 and sixteen being brothers) have by far the most passion. The 17 year old has a job, the rest of us don't yet we manage to raise our arimes so slightly( Chores, various favors etc) Armys are\
13(Meee!)-Eldar Dark Eldar
15- Nilla Marines
16- Orks
17- Tau CSM

We have two people( Other neighbor and 17 year olds ex-step brother who lives in georgia(The State) are starting) who have
13- BA Battle Force
16- Two Boxes of SW
Proof Kids can and do play 40k

I've played great games against younger opponents

I had my titanium ass handed to me playing necrons against a 10 year old that was more tactically aware and rules savvy than most opponents i run into, and far more emotionally mature than a few i've had the misfortune to beat.

30-something guys should not cry and have a screaming, bawling tantrum when their army loses. Nuff said.

I'd rather play opponents based on maturity and TFG rating than on age.

Dark Angels Champ-Master wrote: I think they are a bit too immature and they don't have a passion for the hobby.

I can't really say myself, but since those 'little kids' are GW's target demographic for 40k, I'd say get used to 'em.

I don't play at a FLGS nor am in any club. I just play with friends and cousins. I would never want to play miniature wargames with any stranger younger than 17. I would never want to play with any stranger who I think is immature either. If I ever happen to end up in such a situation, I would excuse myself and walk away. That being said, if I know the kid/immature adult from somewhere or was introduced to the kid/immature adult by someone I know, and IF the kid/immature adult is curious about the game, I'd be glad to show them how its played.
However, it is hard to imagine myself playing with someone else other than friends or relatives, since we know each other and get along so well. We even have a couple of our own sets of rules as well as 40K rules, which suit different types of games or play styles, such as rpg, space battle, space and ground battle combined, and joint operations. But I guess if there was ever that one conditional situation, then they would technically be a friend too.

Without kids in this hobby the hobby will be filled with aging nerds.

I started RT as a kid, Space Hulk, WHFB..

If i was told to come back when i was 18 every time i wanted a game i would have never continued in the hobby.

I'd be richer, and very bored.

I agree with you all. I mean little as in under 10. Im actually just a few years above 10 and I am deeply passionate about the hobby.

Dark Angels Champ-Master wrote:I agree with you all. I mean little as in under 10. Im actually just a few years above 10 and I am deeply passionate about the hobby.

Hoooo boy. This explains so, so very much.

Hang on a second. You're saying you're, what, 12? 13? And you're already at the stage at which you're saying 'Ergh, these little kids are ruining the game'?

Does anyone on Dakka have a major in psychology? This is some deep stuff here. Thesis-paper level.

Yes, please define little. I got into this hobby when I was 12 and am more mature than the 17 year old who got me into it.

infinite_array wrote:

Dark Angels Champ-Master wrote:I agree with you all. I mean little as in under 10. Im actually just a few years above 10 and I am deeply passionate about the hobby.

Hoooo boy. This explains so, so very much.

+1

I am just a geek and I hate seeing kids without respect for the hobby. They are always ruining models at the LA Bunker on sundays.

Dark Angels Champ-Master wrote:I agree with you all. I mean little as in under 10. Im actually just a few years above 10 and I am deeply passionate about the hobby.

Little over 10 hey... troll senses tingling, clicks on profile
Occupation: Wargaming Inquisition, Quantum Physics, Architect
What do you know, a troll.

I like little kids




Now seriously I don't like little kids playing games that I do. They have childish attitude but the main problem is that they do not know what they are doing and are quite annoying. I think that 40K is not a game for them. They will be corrupted by chaos because they are easily influenced/tainted.

It all depends on the player-not the age. I'm in my twenties and some of my closest warhammer friends just graduated high school. Other friends are grandparents. Passion and maturity make for the gamer, not age. I also know a 12 year old who, at the age of ten, painted better than I could ever hope to-and I'm a good painter (second best in my group). My 40 year old friend's son plays the game, and he's 12-very mature. He doesn't like hanging out with kids his age, he likes gaming with his dad and his dad's buddies. We treat him like an equal, because he acts like it (or maybe we're as immature as a 12 year old-a very likely possibility). Message in all this is "don't generalize."

I started this hobby when i was 9. It might have been a little harder for me to grasp some concepts in the beginning, but i was in no way immature about it. Im 15 now.
It does bug me however when i see players start the hobby because they think its cool, not thinking about how theyre going to get their figures painted or even built, and try to play games even though they dont know wprd one on how to play.

At the one tournament I had issues with, I had problems with a little kid and someone my age. Age seems to be no issue - idiots are just idiots. There was another kid there, for example, with his Vostyron Imperial Guard Army that looked excellent, and I'd seen him paint bits of it. He was a really fun person to play, and was less than impressed when he ended up facing whining kid who I had trouble with. I kept having to pop over to clarify rules he'd gotten 'wrong'.

Jon Garrett wrote:Age seems to be no issue - idiots are just idiots.

That is also true.

I started at age 9 too, there's no problem as long as the kid is mature and not the demented ADHD type.

I was mostly quiet and only a little bit annoying for the most part. "Don't bother the adults" is something that most of them figure out.

If they are old enough to cope with losing without throwing a tantrum (used to be quite common in my club with 4 of the members) and can understand the interrelationships of the codices and rules, they can play.

If not, they can go back to their pokemons and dragonballs.


I started 40kays when I was 18/19 - I didn't play boardgames as a 'little kid'. The people I started gaming with were also 18-19. I have tried to play against 'little kids' and between the attention lapses, tantrums and general low boredom threshhold, it didn't end well, and I try not to do it anymore (and I know full well that there are 'grown ups' with the same issues, and I try not to play against them, either). All of my gaming nowadays is played against people who at least can act as adults.

It's not that I don't like kids - I just don't know how to deal with them. I also have no experience at dealing with little brothers who wanted to do the same thing as me (never happened).

Personally, 'little' kids can do what the hell they like in regards to the uptake of the hobby.

I prefer not to play against kids myself, as I like to have a good heft of banter when I play games, and when you are playing kids you kind of have to kerb your tongue a little and can't really have the same kind of conversation you can have with people of a similar age (I remember one convo at FLGW on vet's night where we discussed performance enhancing condoms and making a HPA out of a fleshlight, couldn't have done that with under 16s in the room). With under 16s involved you have to be all serious and mature. Although saying that, I would rather play a 10 year old who knows the rules (i.e. no 'on a d6 I win'/'I'm a space marine so I only die if I'm hit by S10' type shenanigans) and is capable of losing with grace than someone my age that is a complete tit.

As far as grasp and enthusiasm, I can agree that there are kids out there that are more decent hobbyists than some adults, and more rounded and tolerable humans to boot, but as long as you're not a complete moron age is largely irrelevant in the hobby.

My little brother has been playing since he was 8. He does well and all and I dont mind playing him because it he takes it seriously. He is now 13 and does very well. At my local FLGS this past weekend out of 32 people he took 6th with a Chaos army. (I got 4th and beat him in the last round lol) People dont mind playing him there either. Actually hes well liked by the veterans at that shop. From what I've experianced playing with "kids" it almost usually has to do with how the kids maturiaty level is when you play them. Age doesnt matter but he player does.

chromedog wrote:If they are old enough to cope with losing without throwing a tantrum

at my LGS there is an 18 year-old that does that.
In our Necro campaign we had a dungeon crawl event and he lost his leader. Then I had a gang fight with him. His lack of tactics saw his gang bottle on turn 3/4 and one ganger died another got captured. Then for the rest of the evening he was grouchy and sulky and b***hing about to any one would go within 10 feet of him.
I've seen stropy ten year olds take a defeat better.

chromedog wrote:If they are old enough to cope with losing without throwing a tantrum (used to be quite common in my club with 4 of the members) and can understand the interrelationships of the codices and rules, they can play.

If not, they can go back to their pokemons and dragonballs.

Lol dont hate on Pokemon. Best card game ever! At my local FLGS some of us recently pulled out our pokemon cards from way back in the day and played. It was simply, awesome!

I'll hate on pokemon if I choose to, thank ye very much.

Too kawaii for words and too kawaii to live.

"gotta get 'em all" might be GW's raison d'etre but it was an evil mantra, and encouraged ocd behaviour.

chromedog wrote:I'll hate on pokemon if I choose to, thank ye very much.

Too kawaii for words and too kawaii to live.

"gotta get 'em all" might be GW's raison d'etre but it was an evil mantra, and encouraged ocd behaviour.

Hahaha I guess. No offence but did you ever play Pokemon? It was actually a really good system for a card game lol. Just saying.

Spartan 117 wrote:

chromedog wrote:If they are old enough to cope with losing without throwing a tantrum (used to be quite common in my club with 4 of the members) and can understand the interrelationships of the codices and rules, they can play.

If not, they can go back to their pokemons and dragonballs.

Lol dont hate on Pokemon. Best card game ever! At my local FLGS some of us recently pulled out our pokemon cards from way back in the day and played. It was simply, awesome!

Pokemon sort of sucks now because its not a trading card game anymore, seei g as you can just buy any card you want in a special deck, rather than trading or buying packs for it. But yes, in its golden age it was pretty great.