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I dont mind them. As long as they are mature and know the rules when we play the game.

As long as the backwards little squirts keep their grubby hands off of my models, sure why not.

I think younger kids should be able to play if they want to. I started off playing 3rd edition with eldar when I was 9. I could barely see over the table but I had a hell of a time killing the few units I could. Someone at my local gaming store had bought a little bit and gave it too me. I've gathered most of my eldar through buying small armies off of people. Its much cheaper. As long as they can keep interest in the game and know the rules for a smooth game its no problem with me.

Stella Cadente wrote:

Luke_Prowler wrote:For me it's not how old you are, but how old you act.

thats the large majority of players out the window then, the majority act like pathetic spoilt brats whos favourite hobby after GW games is throwing toys out of prams or being a drama queen

Wow, I must play in one of the few groups you're not involved with then, since we don't know who you are and you've played with the majority of 40k players in the world.

How impressive it must be to be you.

DarknessEternal wrote:

Stella Cadente wrote:

Luke_Prowler wrote:For me it's not how old you are, but how old you act.

thats the large majority of players out the window then, the majority act like pathetic spoilt brats whos favourite hobby after GW games is throwing toys out of prams or being a drama queen

Wow, I must play in one of the few groups you're not involved with then, since we don't know who you are and you've played with the majority of 40k players in the world.

How impressive it must be to be you.

your sarcasm is amazing, truly it is

scarletsquig wrote:I started at age 9 too, there's no problem as long as the kid is mature and not the demented ADHD type.

I was mostly quiet and only a little bit annoying for the most part. "Don't bother the adults" is something that most of them figure out.

Yeah, after playing against a 9 year old last week with CSM where every time he moved, shot, or did anything he would go into some schizophrenic acting-out of fight scenes or whatever until he had to do something else, I come to agree with you.

I'm 15 and I consider myself mature enough. People are actually willing to play against me regularly so that must be a sign. I'm pretty dedicated to DE to the point where I've actually researched tactics and built a list that isn't entirely net list but is sort of based off of Dash's. I actually paint my things, too. You'd be surprised how few *people*, not just kids, actually paint their models at my FLGW.

I don't really mind playing against children but if you come up against me with an army that's literally a mish-mosh of Space Marines gak, know none of your rules and make pew pew noises the whole time I'm just packing my things and playing someone else.

I dont mind them but I do consider myself a younger player as well. Im only 13 for gods sakes. But the thing is a lot of the veteran players like playing with me because I take the game seriously and I know my rules a lot better then some of the older kids and younger kids at my FLGS. I dont complain and pout when I lose. Its a game for gods sake.

Also just want to put it out there though I took 6th in a tournament of 32 last weekend with Chaos and I was the youngest player there! Lol

This is just a terrible question imho. I can definitely understand why somebody wouldn't want to play with little kids.
But having some kind of problem with kids playing plastic toy soldiers is just puzzling.
Even if they can't appreciate hobby like you do, so what? Among others, main rule of wh40k, having a hobby, socializing with other people is to have fun. If they are having fun while not hurting anybody then everything should be OK. That "You are not having fun the proper way! Stop having fun guys!" mentality is just stupid.

Macok wrote:This is just a terrible question imho. I can definitely understand why somebody wouldn't want to play with little kids.
But having some kind of problem with kids playing plastic toy soldiers is just puzzling.
Even if they can't appreciate hobby like you do, so what? Among others, main rule of wh40k, having a hobby, socializing with other people is to have fun. If they are having fun while not hurting anybody then everything should be OK. That "You are not having fun the proper way! Stop having fun guys!" mentality is just stupid.

The question wouldn't be asked at all if there weren't tons and tons of immature little buggers that give all the mature kids a bad name.

I have had grown men (40-50) scream and throw a fit that someone wasn't playing fair even though he had not played since 3rd. And I have had some play very well. The opposite is also true I know one kid who is 14 who cries alot if stuff goes bad for him and I know a 10 year old who plays very well and is fun to play against. So I don't think that the age has anything to do with it. It is more the maturity of the player and how much the player enjoys the game and not neccessarily winning.

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:The question wouldn't be asked at all if there weren't tons and tons of immature little buggers that give all the mature kids a bad name.

Immature little buggers can annoy you no matter what they do.
But I don't think that is what the OP asked. Question: "are you annoyed by annoying kids" is kinda redundant

Being annoyed by them only because they play wh40k is not cool imho. You need to get off your high horse and accept that new generations can also enjoy what you enjoy. Don't be old grandpa feeding birds in the park and curse young ones under your nose. That's just silly.

I just don't like them for the fact that Gw is going to make the next edition not as good and more suitable for younger ages. Like pokemon or Lego

Dark Angels Champ-Master wrote:I just don't like them for the fact that Gw is going to make the next edition not as good and more suitable for younger ages. Like pokemon or Lego

Do I sense jealousy?

In general, I don't like kids at all. But I especially don't like playing Warhammer with them. By "kids" I mean people under the age of 15 or so. Of course, there are some exceptions and I've played against some kids who were good opponents, but for the most part.... I want nothing to do with them. To be fair, I've... actually been fairly lucky and can't remember the last time I played against an immature adult. Still, I know they're out there and I wouldn't want to play against them either.

Queue people saying "You're a jerk" blah blah blah. Yeah. I know. Sorry. Still don't like kids. I recognize that they need to get kids sucked into the game for it to exist and grow. I recognize that someday these kids will (hopefully) be adult gamers. I still would rather not play against the vast majority of them. Perhaps that's my loss.

Basically, I don't think my problem is not liking kids playing 40K, my problem is not liking kids. With all that said, I'm not saying they shouldn't play 40K. By all means, go for it, and I know lots (perhaps most) people will play against kids. Heck, I'll play against kids, and I'll do it politely, I just generally do not enjoy it.

Also lol @ the OP. In this thread: "Kids calling kids kids".

I just realized that, not only do I own dice older than half the people posting in this thread... I have a collection of Dungeons & Dragons (red box set) character sheets that are twice as old as some of the people posting in this thread.

There's nothing wrong with kids playing the game... but, holy hells, do I feel old...

For me, it's a double edged blade. My sister is ten and is building an army; she is polite to strangers and wants to put an effort into understanding the game before playing. On the other hand, there is a kid only a few years older than my sister at my local GW who plays a list that is blatantly wrong, gloats at every success and believes himself invincible. I encourage kids to play, but like children, some are nice and others not so much.

Psienesis wrote:I just realized that, not only do I own dice older than half the people posting in this thread... I have a collection of Dungeons & Dragons (red box set) character sheets that are twice as old as some of the people posting in this thread.

There's nothing wrong with kids playing the game... but, holy hells, do I feel old...

Same here.

I have models in my collection (that i bought whe dinosaurs still roamed the earth ) that are older than most of my opponents.

I have an ambull in there somewhere i think. No-one these days seems to know what an ambull is/was

I think i still have a few old WHFB Norscans in the crate too, and Ghazgkull the pre-mega armour version (tiny )

I feel old

Dark Angels Champ-Master wrote:I just don't like them for the fact that Gw is going to make the next edition not as good and more suitable for younger ages. Like pokemon or Lego

Ah, the cycle begins anew with the next generation.

so long as they understand the rules i dont have a problem, heck i got my ass handed to me in a tourney by a 13 year old playing as foot slog tau, nd in the same tourney i had a guy pack up his models and leave when i rolled to be the defender in king of the hill with my foot slog guard whilst he was mech dar

the hobby isnt designed for pre 16's as it has complex rules, but some of the craftiest players are the little beardless stunties

Fairfeldia wrote:
the hobby isnt designed for pre 16's as it has complex rules, but some of the craftiest players are the little beardless stunties

Oh, is that why the recommended age for Assault on Black Reach is 12 and up?

oh, is that why the you make da call page is full of flame wars becasue NOBODY on dakka fully understands every rule

Fairfeldia wrote:oh, is that why the you make da call page is full of flame wars becasue NOBODY on dakka fully understands every rule

Are you suggesting that every flame war on that subforum is due to people younger than the age of 16 not being able to grasp the rules of 40k?

no im suggesting that that subforum is full of people between the ages of 3 and 112 are causing flame wars because we all have personal interpretations

Fairfeldia wrote:no im suggesting that that subforum is full of people between the ages of 3 and 112 are causing flame wars because we all have personal interpretations

But what does that have to do with "the hobby being too complex for under-16s?"

age is a point of contention that is really irrelivant if you think about it.

what matters is your grasp of the game, your ability and desire to learn, and your sportsmanship.

9 or 90, if you're a fun opponent, i'll game with you.

i'm 30, and having played against grown men my age who acted out worse in public than my 5 year old daughter.

gaming with young kids in person isn't as bad as xbox gaming or (not directed at you) forums.

I actually really dislike dealing with younger individuals on most forums. (this is not my only one trust me)

Dakka interestingly enough, is not nearly as bad with younger players being immature. we're all immature LOL.

it should be 12+ as that is the age the are generally competent at building and paintng.as i said i dont mind kids as long as they knowe the stuff and don't say a marine dipped in Homebase's range of blue wall paint is an Ultramarine im good

Dark Angels Champ-Master wrote:Do you like little kids playing warhammer 40k? I don't...

I don't either. It's not just 40k, generally I don't like other peoples children anywhere I go.

Augustus wrote:

Dark Angels Champ-Master wrote:Do you like little kids playing warhammer 40k? I don't...

I don't either. It's not just 40k, generally I don't like other peoples children anywhere I go.

I am okay with children generally....but when you mix that with a hobby you have a passion for, complex rules, and paint, I prefer to be isolated from chaos.

Nerivant wrote:

Fairfeldia wrote:no im suggesting that that subforum is full of people between the ages of 3 and 112 are causing flame wars because we all have personal interpretations

But what does that have to do with "the hobby being too complex for under-16s?"

The aobr set does say for 12 years old and up, however, i think thats due to the fact that it has some small pieces, and the general consensus is that you dont want anyone remotely young around very small pieces.
So i dont think that it hqs much to do with comprehension of the game, especially because aobr is much simpler than the actual game.
However, as already mention, a bunch of people here mentioned that they statrted at age 8, 9, and 10 or so on, and more than half this thread is under 16 year olds. So i domt think age has much to do with comprehension of the game, especially because its been proven that its easier to learn at a young age then when youre older.

Commissar Typhus wrote:I would perfer gamers over 16, that way I can swear in front of them when my I roll for and not feel bad about it.

Dude I've seen some 14 year olds curse in such a way, that a USMC drill sergeant would blush. That said I'm fine with playing them, yeah most under 15 year old gamers have poorly painted armies, and they are easy opponents because thier lack of high end tanks/cheese knowledge/experience/etc. However, they learn, and outside of school, generally have all the time in the world to devote to getting better. The other thing is wheter you like it or not you were a kid once, so remember what it was like when older people looked down on you.

And no that doesn't mean kick them in the shin, and call them old. I started this game when I was 14-15 years old so I grew up with the hobby. I'm 25 now.