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Ya Pokemons system sucks now. But the actual game is still great. Probably one of the best card games ever invented. Actual game play wise. And it definitely still is. The haters are definitely going to hate lmfao

Being 15, I can say this kind of offends me. Someone's age, especially before adulthood, is a horrible way to judge how people act at a certain age, because everybody grows and matures at different rates and times. So telling me to go back to my pokemon and dragonballs sounds more immature than I ever act, and let's be honest, everyone on this thread is most likely below the age of 17. So to any adults (I think they are few) who are actually immature enough to hate kids playing the same game, I reserve both of my middle fingers. Kids are the future of the hobby.

And about the passion thing, OP, I totally disagree.


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Spartan 117 wrote:Ya Pokemons system sucks now. But the actual game is still great. Probably one of the best card games ever invented. Actual game play wise. And it definitely still is. The haters are definitely going to hate lmfao

Magic The Gathering. For Men .

As a "little kid" I don't find this offensive at all. I know we can be annoying some times, but we're learning. It's not our fault that we haven't been playing as long as others.

Although I myself find it annoying when 2 people who appear to be toddlers walk in with there identical Ultramarine armies lead by Marneus Calgar and his landraider.

I was 7 when I got space marine for my brithday my brother who was 10 helped me out with the rules and it ent on from there with my brother getting 40k a few weeks later. Prior to this we would have games of space crusade as a family, no cludo for us lol

I have no problem with little kids WHAT SO EVER.

I dont care how old you are, I do have a problem with the following:

- Immaturity
- Lack of rules knowledge to the point of creating rules / cheating (I have no problems with teaching a self admitted newb, but you get the picture)
- Childishness
- Lack of sportsmanship, including but not limited to not being able to take a defeat. OR on that note, take a win like a gentlemen.

infinite_array wrote:Hang on a second. You're saying you're, what, 12? 13? And you're already at the stage at which you're saying 'Ergh, these little kids are ruining the game'?

Does anyone on Dakka have a major in psychology? This is some deep stuff here. Thesis-paper level.

There's nothing unusual there. Labelling anyone younger as a 'little kid' is fairly standard teenage behaviour.

insaniak wrote:

infinite_array wrote:Hang on a second. You're saying you're, what, 12? 13? And you're already at the stage at which you're saying 'Ergh, these little kids are ruining the game'?

Does anyone on Dakka have a major in psychology? This is some deep stuff here. Thesis-paper level.

There's nothing unusual there. Labelling anyone younger as a 'little kid' is fairly standard teenage behaviour.

True.

Holy fething gak.

I feel old. Real old. Hell, I have *dice* older than most of you...

I dont mind them, until they run around the table your playing at and knock your fragile scratchbuilt ork something or other off the table.

but if they want to get into the hobby i dont mind

I's rather play some 10yr old who only wants fun instead of some spotty greasy haired trenchcoat wearing mettalica loving freak of nature who cheats, lies, powergames and rules lawyers while insisting being 20yrs old makes them so experienced nobody can beat them

I admit I'm torn.

I have no issue at all with kids per se - as has been pointed out, age and immaturity can and surprisingly often are unrelated to each other. I've experienced this in P&P first-hand. In addition to this, they're the "next generation" and as such the future of the hobby, keeping the game alive. So ... as long as whoever I'm playing with "fits the bill" and makes it a fun game, why the warp not!

On the other hand, I have a feeling that GW has shifted its focus towards younger players in a way that it ends up having an effect on the style of the game. You know ... an even stronger Marine hype than we had before, miniatures being made to look more "family-friendly", etc. All just little things, but they add up, and for some reason they make me nervous about said future mentioned earlier. Or I'm just paranoid about keeping mah grimdark - the changes mentioned earlier could just as well be merely the result of staff changes amongst the designers...

So I should probably adjust my statement - I absolutely don't mind kids, but I mind the company moving closer towards them and away from people like me. The funny thing is that many of these kids probably do not even appreciate this approach, for they'd have gotten into the hobby exactly because 40k looks fairly mature and pulp. I'd not be surprised if many of them would feel the same way about these changes.

as long as they,or any other opponent for that matter,doesn't look at the cdex/BRB every time he shootsthe same unit with the same bs and guns,im fine.I don't expect them to learn it by heart as i do but,c'mon,at least make an effort to remember that SM move 6",s does every other SM from AoBR he has!stupid little brother.


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and i know this is major stereotyping and their only little but i prefer the better painted armies of vets.even if i lose i can say ,i lost to a vet. who had a beautiful army.instaed of i just creamed a 7 yr old and his ultramrines that have clearly been swiimming in a can of wall paint.

I would perfer gamers over 16, that way I can swear in front of them when my I roll for and not feel bad about it.

Deadshot wrote:as long as they,or any other opponent for that matter,doesn't look at the cdex/BRB every time he shootsthe same unit with the same bs and guns,im fine.I don't expect them to learn it by heart as i do but,c'mon,at least make an effort to remember that SM move 6",s does every other SM from AoBR he has!stupid little brother.


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and i know this is major stereotyping and their only little but i prefer the better painted armies of vets.even if i lose i can say ,i lost to a vet. who had a beautiful army.instaed of i just creamed a 7 yr old and his ultramrines that have clearly been swiimming in a can of wall paint.

is that a little bit selfish? You like playing against older players so you dont feel like you lost to a newb?

no.its just generally vets have better painted armies.

Deadshot wrote:no.its just generally vets have better painted armies.

Not really. Experience =/= painting well.

and vets are more of an enjoyable expiriance because they adapt quicker to the battle and is more of a challenge

That said, of course a 16 year old who has been playing for four years is more of a veteran than a 20 year old with a single year into the hobby.

im 14.i enjoy challenges.i regard vets as anyone who has 5 yrs under his belya nd sdoesnt play nilla marines because he got AoBR

For me it's not how old you are, but how old you act.

I'll play you no matter what age you are, but you'd best make a reasonable impression. There are several people I have chalked up as "immature" due to what i've witnessed in my own games and other peoples. These include people who:

- Kill a tough unit and proceed to loudly shout and/or run around the room proclaiming what happened as gleefully as possible without any consideration for their opponent; this boasting lasts for several minutes, during which time it's brought up just about every other minute. If there was ever an example of a sore winner, this would be it.

- Have the attention span of an overactive puppy with alzheimers. Just because it's my turn or i'm rolling, doesn't mean you can start an in-depth conversation with your back turned, or wander off and pester somebody or gloat AGAIN.

More often than not, any rolls I make during this time (since the last second I looked, they were still concentrating on the game) are demanded to be re-rolled by my opponent when I manage to get his attention, and/or his friends. This is why I prefer having spectators or a trusted member to watch the game, so they can tell me if my opponent has buggered off during the roll, or they can grab his attention for me, or back up my rolls.

- Have sod all knowledge about their own army and its rules and/or the rules of the system.

- Demand to be shown evidence of every rule and weapon I use the first time I use it, but turn down the opportunity to leaf through my codex/army book whenever I show him. If it was one or two rules, or he asked to see the book beforehand, then it's fine, but asking about every-fethng-thing without even showing an interest other than the will to inconvenience me just gets annoying.

Admittedly, the last one has happened once, the first one three times, the second too many times to count, and the third twice, the majority of them were kids i've never seen again, and hope I don't, but a few were people i'd come to respect and even believe were mature.

Luke_Prowler wrote:For me it's not how old you are, but how old you act.

Dark Angels Champ-Master wrote:Do you like little kids playing warhammer 40k? I don't. I think they are a bit too immature and they don't have a passion for the hobby. What do you think?

They gotta start somewhere. At least they're not into Yu-Gi-Oh... Why not be a big boy and hep to guide them, rather than be a TFG with disdain for everyone who isn't as committed as you are... and I'm sure someone may have said the same about you when you started,too.

Luke_Prowler wrote:For me it's not how old you are, but how old you act.

And it's really only how they act while playing. Once we're done, and they want to start doing childly things, more power to em.

Luke_Prowler wrote:For me it's not how old you are, but how old you act.

thats the large majority of players out the window then, the majority act like pathetic spoilt brats whos favourite hobby after GW games is throwing toys out of prams or being a drama queen

I don't mind kids playing 40k. I like it when youth partake in gaming activities. I think its healthy for them. Builds character and all that. I wish I played more of these games when I was younger. As it stands now I feel kind of embarrassed at my age for still being involved with this stuff... just a hang up I have.

Stella Cadente wrote:

Luke_Prowler wrote:For me it's not how old you are, but how old you act.

thats the large majority of players out the window then, the majority act like pathetic spoilt brats whos favourite hobby after GW games is throwing toys out of prams or being a drama queen

The same could be said about any hobby/fandom ever.

Avatar 720 wrote:- Have sod all knowledge about their own army and its rules and/or the rules of the system.
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at my LGS there is guy who has to every thing in the codex. Basic stuff like the strength and AP of a Bolter.
Having played the hobby for 3-4 years he was genuinly shocked to see loyalist marines were the same str and toughness as CSM

I don't mind them playing the game either.

The kids that start playing today are the next generation of hobbyist, designers and authours. They start when it's all cool, new and fun, and may one day develop into a true passion with a deep understanding of the game as it grows as they grow.

I don't play against them (I only play at home against a few different people in social, friendly games) but at the GW stores, even the youngest little tykes are polite and excited. Though I have to admit, I've stepped on them more than once when the store's been crowded... :S