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Spare yourself the brain ache. It is.

Look at the poll results

TrollPie wrote:

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:Tau.

Not enough substance.

That's not really bad fluff, just lack of fluff.

Which is precisely what's wrong with it.

The CSM fluff was pretty bad, but I realised we got off lightly when I read the GK stuff.

ROFL. 160 for GK. next in line is SW with 38. It's sad that someone can write such horrible fluff.

labmouse42 wrote:

Melissia wrote:The Imperium has many means to remove taint.

Do they use scalpels?

In some cases, yes. Pain is for the body as prayer is for the mind and soul, in the mind of many Imperials.

I wonder will we ever reach 1337 amount of votes on one poll option?

Sisters of Battle.

Everyone else's latest Codex actually HAS fluff. We've got 4 pages of it. : /

Okay, 3 pages, if you don't count the double-half-page spread of a photo of an army.

Which would you rather have, though, Pouncey? Not enough fluff? Or a lot of fluff that is exceedingly similar to something a 13y old would write.

Literally, I remember being like 11-13 and for fun writing stuff like draigo's backstory. Reread it all 2 years ago and was terrified.

Oh god. Is...is Ward writing more codeci?

He's writing Necrons, IIRC.

Melissia wrote:He's writing Necrons, IIRC.

I'd just love to see how he handles that one. If I had to guess, the same way Cruddance handled Tyranids: Like a turd.

BronzeJon wrote:Which would you rather have, though, Pouncey? Not enough fluff? Or a lot of fluff that is exceedingly similar to something a 13y old would write.

Literally, I remember being like 11-13 and for fun writing stuff like draigo's backstory. Reread it all 2 years ago and was terrified.

Oh god. Is...is Ward writing more codeci?

Mmm... I guess I could fill in the blanks with my own custom fluff for my Sisters of the Flame... It's not like I wasn't gonna do it anyways.

BronzeJon wrote:Which would you rather have, though, Pouncey? Not enough fluff? Or a lot of fluff that is exceedingly similar to something a 13y old would write.

Literally, I remember being like 11-13 and for fun writing stuff like draigo's backstory. Reread it all 2 years ago and was terrified.

Oh god. Is...is Ward writing more codeci?

"Codices".

And yes, he's writing Codex: Necron Marines.

And probably Black Templars, if the rumours turn out to be true. Set sail for fail kids, because he's gonna take that whole 'Knights Templar' thing and blow it way out of proportion.

We're gonna see Dreadnoughts with Templar Claws and Templar missiles?

Brother SRM wrote:

Anpu42 wrote:From what I have been reading recently whatever the latest version of "Your" Codex is out

This post is a good post.

The Space Marines codex has fine fluff. Honestly, it's mostly good. Yeah, there's too much Ultramarines wankery, but whatever, the rest is fine. The Blood Angels fluff is mostly fine, but the whole bit about teaming up with Necrons is really dumb. I've read the codex and didn't find anything else memorably bad. I actually liked all the "end is nigh" stuff. Black Templars has cool fluff, Space Wolves have very fitting fluff that reads like folk legends. Imperial Guard fluff is solid but not too memorable, Orks are fantastic, Dark Eldar is awesome, Eldar is good too. Basically Phil Kelly = great. The Tyranids codex doesn't have anything too memorable, Tau don't have too much fluff to speak of, nor do Necrons. Grey Knights have some okay fluff but a few really awful moments stand out and the Internet latches on to those. Chaos Space Marines have fine fluff too, but people generally brand everything about that codex as horrible because the rules aren't what they could be.

This is truth.

Worst fluff is most likely Tau. That's comin from a huge Tan Fanboy too... Sadly, the dates don't match up, the characters are very plain, and while I enjoy the race, they are left pretty vague and unexplained for a "federation" in warhammer.

Edit: I have to say though the IG and Wolfy dexes were hard reads. Its more my preference though.

Omegus wrote:We're gonna see Dreadnoughts with Templar Claws and Templar missiles?

I wouldn't be sure whether I should laugh or cry.

Though at that point, one could only hope Ward is really only trolling.

No, no, no. They'll be called Crusade Fists!

I think "Claws of the Templar" would make a pretty cool name for a Special Character's set of LC.

GAH...
Save me from cruddy name conventions..


If they ruin the Templars as well im committing virtual sepukku. The Templars are the only Loyalist chapter i'm fond of

To all Grey Knights codex haters:
their codex is one of the few where the fluff mostly matches the abilities.
The others being Tyranids and Daemon (last time I read it at least).

(Pretending that the above statement actually matters...)

Ok, so, if that's the case, then surely Draigo should be able to take on entire armies by himself - right?

If codex fluff reflected tabletop rules, Creed being on the field would result in an instant win.

This thread makes me sad. I can say it's one of the biggest collections of exaggeration I've seen so far on Dakka. And that's saying something.

I'm going to start a fluff army based on Caldor Draigo. It will consist of only his model. I will win. Always.

I'll take him on with the Deciever.

You'll lose...always

"Hey mom! I just carved my name into a Daemonic Primarchs heart!! Really!! And he couldn't lift a finger to stop me you know why? 'COS I'M AWESOME BUY MY ARMY!!!"

Or am I too cynical? Maybe too lenient given the codex and the abominable background that is contained therein.

Edit: Oh and in no way do I hate GK's, anyone who wants to play them cool, they look nice models. I just hate the new retconned junk that is given as a background for them and the fact there's now whole armies of them sent out regularly to any old warzone? Whatever happened to them being to scarce and valuable a single squad fighting alongside you was an honour beyond belief. Also usually a death sentence, as was the case for many in the first armageddon war.

That hasn't been the case since Codex: Daemonhunters.

C: DH gave some ridiculously vague fluff and was hailed as groundbreaking.
C: GK builds upon most of that fluff, and gets hailed as ruining the background.

Its been a while since i have posted, but i think i will for this thread.

My biggest problem with codex fluff is Grey knights, i can site out the whole slaughtering the sisters thing, or how they now can bring every single purifier in the entire Imperium to every battle on normal grounds, or hell even that for some reason they are now nothing more then evil inquisition bats used to beat and threaten those who can know of them, when alot shouldnt. They are no longer rightous, or pure, as the codex says they are about a zillion times (in the first couple pages no less)

But my biggest problem is Draigo. Dude is so utterly insane in fluff i had to read it three or four times to make sure i got it right. He is accomplishing things the emperor of man himself didnt do. He is strolling about the warp like its cool, no problems with anything there, all of daemonhood is afraid of him and wont fight him at all right? He burned down a nurgle garden, slayed a bloodthirster in the sacred area of khorne, reforges the axe into a new sword for himself (lets not get into how hard that would be on a general thought) broke a tzentian city, and slew handmaidens of slanessh no problem. he did most of that without a weapon. Yeah. Thats beliveable all right. Bloodthirsters are little girls that even the most normal of space marines can kill i guess. I know ward turned avatars into that. The biggest problem i have though....is he and his former grandmaster took down a Daemonic primarch....and he did it with a broken sword and then carved his name into his heart. Im sorry, thats just slowed. He may be the best of the best space marines, but a primarch was so far above your normal space marine that none would every hope or dare be that level.....and now this primarch is even more powerful with daemonic backings....and draigo beats him no problem.


He is just silly as crap.

H.B.M.C. wrote:(Pretending that the above statement actually matters...)

Ok, so, if that's the case, then surely Draigo should be able to take on entire armies by himself - right?

I was not referring to the named characters. The average Grey Knight in tabletop can preform close to the par set in fluff, horrible rolls notwithstanding. The individual Tyranids preform as well as the codex describes, with the only issue being that, in fluff, the points are something close to 1,000,000,000 'nids vs 3,000 other. Now named characters are a different story. Draigo is overpowered in fluff, but in his defense, the Emperor has caused more extreme miracles and His power is based in the Warp.

I just bought the GK codex, and Nightrave summed it up best. The SOB bloodtide...eh, it's not great, but okay. I can let it slide in comparison to Draigo. Draigo is seriously a walking pile of written excrement who should never have been turned into this walking pile of fan-spank. Burn a god's garden? Kill a greater daemon in his own home? Stab a Daemon-Primarch in the chest and write your name on him? Where do the fanboys get off on liking this? Oh...wait...they're probably twelve and sitting in their dark computer rooms looking for steamy pictures of Rebecca Black. (I blame this site for knowing who she is...I was bashing Justin Bieber and somebody told me to bash her too. Looked on youtube...the agony!!)

The other issue is the dreadknight fluff (and dumbass model)-are you kidding me?!
"Let's strap into the chest to combat greater daemons."
"But won't we get chopped?"
"Right, you have terminator armor [equivalent] to protect you"
"Wow, that sounds great, brother-captain!!"

Yes, I admitted to buying the Codex-I'm doing a straight up inquisition army, based on mercenaries in the Marvel Universe (Deadpool, Taskmaster, T-Ray, Constrictor, etc-led by Cable as Coteaz). It will be...glorious. Draigo will never touch my list. As far as I'm concerned...he's the biggest stain in the codex (there is more than him, but NOTHING is that bad). The Twilight cast of BA and SW bow to the stupidity of Draigo.