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The Necron fluff did lack a bit of individuality, but that was largely the point. The vast majority of their race had been pulped and sifted down lacking individuality. In the end, all you have is soulless killing machines. Only Immortals and higher retained any sense of self. What the fluff needed was a little more to expand on that.

The fluff was written largely from an outsider's perspective on the race, which gave it its mysterious feel. Perhaps the GK book should have been written the same way. Even Draigo's feats would be allowable if told from the POV of two guardsmen in a foxhole. If the only verifiable pieces of fluff were that the GK were distilled from the gene seed of the loyal survivors of Istvaan and that they kill demons, it could have retained the mystery. Expecially if you add in little bits of Inquisitorial email about "this room on titan that supposedly contains demons" or "the protocols on what to do if the Golden Throne ever fails," etc.

The Tau book on the other hand, can and should include notes from an outside perspective but should have hefty doeses of life from the Tau POV. I have never liked this scrap of info from... somewhere (no one can really tell me from where) that the Tau have terrible eyesight and are vegetarians (patently ridiculous for a predator race who eschews close combat)

Nightrave wrote:...is he and his former grandmaster took down a Daemonic primarch....and he did it with a broken sword and then carved his name into his heart. Im sorry, thats just slowed. He may be the best of the best space marines, but a primarch was so far above your normal space marine that none would every hope or dare be that level.....and now this primarch is even more powerful with daemonic backings....and draigo beats him no problem.

This. This sums it all up. The primarchs were so far above marines, even the best of the best, and the custodes, who are touted as among the best combatants in the IoM. These beings were so powerful only the emperor could pull this kind of stuff on them. Yet one who has had his powers enhanced by ascending to daemonhood gets a name carved into his chest. Seriously what the .

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Kaldor_Draigo

I think it's official. GK has the worst fluff, and Matt Ward is the worst fluff writer.

I said Grey Knights, because Castellan Crowe is supposed to be like ultra pure, and he wields a Daemon Weapon. A FETHING DAEMON WEAPON. That practically spells out the word "contradictory"

Beastmaster wrote:I said Grey Knights, because Castellan Crowe is supposed to be like ultra pure, and he wields a Daemon Weapon. A FETHING DAEMON WEAPON. That practically spells out the word "contradictory"

No it doesn't.

You know why?

Because of the fact that he's "ultra pure", he's given the Daemon Weapon as something he's supposed to safeguard. The Daemon within the weapon is effectively neutered because it cannot bend Crowe to his will, like it would any other wielder.

I think GK took this by a landslide. Do they have the worst fluff maybe, I thought it was still enjoyable.

Kanluwen wrote:No it doesn't.

You know why?

Because you say so, just like every other time you disagree with someone over the fluff?

Kanluwen wrote:Because of the fact that he's "ultra pure", he's given the Daemon Weapon as something he's supposed to safeguard. The Daemon within the weapon is effectively neutered because it cannot bend Crowe to his will, like it would any other wielder.

Is Crowe immune to the bloodtide, or would have had to sacrifice a Sister to Khorne in order to be 'ultra ultra pure'.