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2014/02/08 12:37:31
Subject: Re:Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - Four Days Remaining!
ced1106 wrote:So I just read that they're gonna toss in a dragon in resin, and my reaction was "don't these things cost a lot of money to make"?
Crowdfunding isn't necessarily there for profit, its there to generate income prior to production costs are fully outlayed.
With some companies this will cause problems, but as Gorechild rightly says Gamezone has enough experience to cost out the business plan competently.
Gorechild wrote: [
GZ are an established model making company that have been doing this for years, I'm sure they'll be able to produce all the minatures that they say they're going to without any trouble.
In fact, the production of the game to a high standard is one of the few things I'm not worried about in this this crowd funding
Agreed.
As for the dragon, its a loss leader, sell it now to gain funds to sell the products later at full price. I suspect most of the pieces for this game have little to do with Heroquest they are just generic fantasy pieces. I for one never really liked Heroquest and I prefer to stick with Descent, but I have the miniatures and it all adds up to a massive bargain for fantasy stuff. I will give it a spin when I get my copy, but I am in it for the toys.
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2014/02/08 13:34:01
Subject: Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - Four Days Remaining!
I think there's a misunderstanding about the Dragon unless I missed something over night they are doing a Great Wyrm as a stretch goal it will be on a base 3 squares x 2 squares and it's wing less so more worm than wyrm. Plus none of this is proper resin it's Gamezones plastic resin.
At €545,000 ($742,000) now and rising quick enough, they should have the funds to make this they stopped adding stretch goals in any meaningful way at around €450,000 so they aren't funding more models now. Also unlike Kickstarter none of that money is for shipping that's a separate charge later that's €545,000 purely to make the game. The only fly in the ointment is if something where to happen legally afterwords.
Lanzanos has a weird system the project has 9478 backers but every pledge level is pledged for separately so some backers count multiple times. As of now 4283 have pledged for the game itself at 1 of 3 levels. The rest are for add ons.
I've put my €110 in this morning Paypal took payment straight away now to wait and see.
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2014/02/08 14:10:05
Subject: Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - Four Days Remaining!
They don't seem to have an add-on price for the wyrm, but if this delivers and if they offer it as one later, I may ask if anyone is willing to let me add it on.
That's a lot of "ifs" and I try not to commit to renders-only campaigns. But I have to say, the renders look good. This is the first thing that comes up if you search "lanzanos" now
2014/02/08 15:07:36
Subject: Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - ONE Day Remaining!
I have put in a small amount to hold a place as such, I am really hoping they have a pledge manager in a couple of weeks so I can increase my amount to go for the €110 level.
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2014/02/08 20:04:56
Subject: Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - ONE Day Remaining!
Just had a look at the ending soon page and Lanzanos swaps to hours for the last 24 hours so still more than a day left at a guess there is 26.5 hours left if it finshes at 0:00 CET.
EDIT: update 34 confirms 23:59 CET Sunday 9th end time.
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2014/02/09 11:02:52
Subject: Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - ONE Day Remaining!
Managed in for 110 euros, I wanted more but my bank account is now down to pennies until I next get paid.
I wonder if Gamezone will allow updates after close of sale as some Kickstarter projects have done.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
2014/02/09 13:00:15
Subject: Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - ONE Day Remaining!
From the dungeon…
Mentor Captives, Lanzanos, Shipping costs,
Our crowdfunding campaign is coming to an end. The time for stragglers to join the group of more than 4.000 backers that have trusted us will end in little more than 10 hours, so tell your friends and spread the word. There is no turning back… HeroQuest will celebrate its 25th anniversary with the best tribute we could possibly think of: filling our sunday afternoons again with magic and adventure, facing orcs, skeletons and gargoyles, searching for treasures and avoiding traps.
There is still plenty of work ahead of us, but before returning to the dungeon to use our whips on the backs of sculptors, illustrators and hardcore players, there are some issues we want to discuss with you:
The campaign will end today, at 11:59 pm Spanish time, but don’t wait to the last minute! Lánzanos online servers will be grateful for that.
This is a good time to remember the three editions that will be released, how will shipping costs be handled with and the way to redeem them for gift vouchers in the yet-to-be official HeroQuest store.
Speaking of shipping costs, we are very close to get them even better, so stay tuned for next week’s update with all the info about the system we will use to confirm your orders, shipping costs according to the volume and delivery address, and the name you want written in the game’s box.
We have made a comparative study with all three pledge levels of this Funder Edition, which you can use to see at a glance all the content of the basic box, the 15 heroes pack and the 55 unlocked rewards.
We have also improved the Spiders Pack available as an optional add-on, to include two more Spider Eggs pieces without rising its price. This way, Level 3 pledgers that purchase one of these will have 9 spiders, its Queen and 4 egg sacs to create a really scary nest.
And last but not least to finish this bunch of mini-updates, we want to reveal a little secret about the captives (Level 3 rewards). You have surely noticed that two of them are chained to a wall section, so some of you wondered if the heroes should drag them all across the dungeon to rescue them. The answer is no. The knight and the female prisioner (whose miniature will be in a different pose from that showed in the illustration) will both include an extra set of arms to quickly swap them after being freed thanks to a couple of tiny neodymium magnets. This peculiarity has been in our sculptor’s mind from the beginning and, with a bit of luck, we will be able to show you the result on the actual minis soon enough.
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2014/02/09 13:10:19
Subject: Re:Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - ONE Day Remaining!
That is an absolutely nuts amount of miniatures and little add-ons for the 110 Euro mark. I own quite a few Gamezone miniatures and was quite worried when I read some of their sculptors had left. But, the CAD images we have seen so far have done enough to convince me they could probably up to the mark as far as dungeon-crawl games go.
And there is so much carry-over with this kind of stuff for D&D players, Warhammer or whatever.
Think I've left it long enough to wait for some party-pooper to step in with a C&D and hoping it is safe now, time to jump in with both feet!
2014/02/09 13:20:43
Subject: Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - ONE Day Remaining!
I finally pledged yesterday. I believe that the kind of communication they have been offering last weeks is what they should have done in the first campaign on KS. The current renders look really good (not a fan of the Wizard, but... whatever). I hope they will finally offer a good product and... free of legal soap operas.
2014/02/09 16:24:23
Subject: Re:Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - ONE Day Remaining!
and update 35 (using google translate the English version probably won't go up before it ends) speaking of which lanzanos is very slow now. Not sure what that 3 day extension thing is about clock shows 49 minutes left.
Orc Big Boss and improved monster cards
Mentor Developing, Enemies, Miniatures, Orks,
The expected day has come. Within just an hour officially conclude collective campaign financing 25th Anniversary in HeroQuest Lánzanos , and we will staying close to double the previous record for fundraising in Spain and Latin America. At the time of writing we raised a 1077% of our initial target of 58,000 euros, ie 625,163 euros that put us in the European Top 10. Needless to say that without you, our patrons heroic, none of this would have been possible and so, in the name of Adolfo Alejandro, Alex, Cabell, Carlos, Cristina, Dani, Dionisio, Emilio, Igor, Elizabeth, Joseph, Juanmi Manuel, Marcos, Miguel, Victor Pablo and we can only tell you once again ... THANK YOU! YOU ARE THE BEST! Do not disappoint.
Before turning to the daily development of this update, a total anticlimax. After all we do not finish the season on Sunday at 23:59 but will give a three-day extension until Wednesday 12. The guys Lánzanos have a mountain of work ahead to finish processing all charges and is apparently easier to do before closing the campaign. We also thank them for their efforts and dedication during this month and a half have been adapted diligently to many of our needs.
And now, Miniature Orc Big Boss, one of the only monsters in the core game. A time? Monster? Only? What's that? It is clear, right? Name enemies as such, will have its own tab control monster wheels on the same line as the adventurers. It was another surprise but we were reserving the secrets we burn in the throat. Can you blame it?
We've updated the final list of components Founder edition to reflect this development affecting the Gargoyle, the Witch of the Primordial Chaos, Spectrum and Grand Chief Orc in the basic case, and the Chief Goblin, Spider Queen, Vampire and Vampira, Morcar, Zargon, the Great Serpent and the rewards She between Level 3.
Orc Big Boss is big and brutal, just the powers that are needed to become the leader of the entire clan orc lovers. Under his literally a head height below, we have 8 orcs who accompany him on his misdeeds, a pair of archers (orca advanced technology, masters of recycling), another with two-handed weapons and the remaining four with a combination of short swords, shields and whatever works for their bloody purposes.
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Funny you should say that the project definitely ended and closed now it's reopened with 2 days 23+ hours on the clock.
They've had 48 days of a campaign I don't buy this can't process payments while closed business this goes to show that deadlines are a moving target for GZ and smacks of greed to me what happens when we get to Wednesday and then they decide to extend to the weekend keep it going so long as there's a few more Euro to squeeze out of it just set an end date an stick to it.
Don't make me regret backing this Gamezone less than half an hour after sort of ending.
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After all we do not finish the season on Sunday at 23:59 but will give a three-day extension until Wednesday 12. The guys Lánzanos have a mountain of work ahead to finish processing all charges and is apparently easier to do before closing the campaign.
Although, why couldn't they do this before (unless it was because of the final rush to the end of the KS?)
Anyway, as long as this will still arrive near the projected shipping date I will be happy.
2014/02/10 00:06:31
Subject: Hero Quest 25th Anniversary Crowdfunding Rerelaunched on Lanzanos - TWO Hours Remaining
For those of you still on the fence, there is less than two hours remaining in the campaign.
Personally, I'm not going to back this project because it's had too many rough and false starts for me to be comfortable, and I'm not familiar with Lanzanos.
Regardless, I'm happy it's been a success and I'll check out the product when it hits retail.
Now I need to know which end of Wednesday the timer runs out. I get paid on Wednesday.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
++EDIT++ Bloody hell, nevermind burying the corpse when it is still warm, this one is still breathing!
If the decision to continue running for a few more days was financially motivated, then it is certainly paying dividends. Seems to be going up a thousand euros an hour, getting on for 650,000 now.
Orlanth, the original timer ran out 11pm UK time, would guess the same for Wednesday night if they have run it for 3 days exactly.
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I wouldn't worry about extensions, I don't smell a rat
Lanzanos never had it so good, traffic on their website has apparently expected all previous records, or so I guess from the possibility of server overloads, this is good for them and Gamezone both.
I would not be overly surprised if GameZone is invited to continue its promotion further.
Heroquest is 60x the next most successful project. If Lanzanos take a % then Heroquest probably doubled their income for the year. Allowing for ther double helping of suck the Spanish economy is in crowdfunding isn't making it over there. I suspect the vast majority of pledges come from the UK and US.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
