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Ah I like it but then I used to watch the ewok catroon after school in the late 80s early 90s. Lol
   
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Just finished season 2 of Rebels - wow!

Just give me the OT, prequels, Rogue One, The Clone Wars and Rebels and I've got all the Star Wars watching that I'll ever need.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Still haven’t seen Resistance.

Hopefully it’ll come to DVD soon, and I can catch up.


I would wait until more seasons are finished. I didn't bother watching, but I did keep up with the reviews to see if it was worth jumping in to and...yeah. Even the most avid Sequel Defender type reviewer had gotten pretty tepid by the end of the run, and those who were neutral or reasonably critical of the Sequels(people who hated them didn't seem to bother with Resistance at all) were outright slating several episodes.

Given the pattern of the previous shows - which all have a questionable first season to some degree - it still might turn out good, but the specific criticisms this time were a bit different and boiled right down to, essentially, "this is just boring most of the time".

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I’ve heard mixed things, but have always been one of my own (often bloody, you may have noticed!) mind.

I fear the animation style may take some getting used to. Very bright, very ‘The not very good in my opinion’ Marvel Cartoons.

But hey, if it’s sucks, it sucks. Anything else, I’ll be ok with.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve heard mixed things, but have always been one of my own (often bloody, you may have noticed!) mind.

I fear the animation style may take some getting used to. Very bright, very ‘The not very good in my opinion’ Marvel Cartoons.

But hey, if it’s sucks, it sucks. Anything else, I’ll be ok with.


The animation style is something that did take some getting used to from what I read, but the main complaints seemed to be a lot of episodes just meandered about without any real point to them, then when stuff needed to happen they just kind of made it happen without the required buildup, so lots of things that were supposed to be emotional moments fell flat. It also seems to have been even more of a "kids show" feel than S1 of Rebels had, but as I said that seems to be a common theme of these shows so it may resolve itself later.

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Same issues Rebels had at first.

I guess it’s part of the creative crew finding their feet.

Don’t go too deep into plot and lore in case of cancellation maybe? I’ve had too many shows be cancelled in the middle of plot, and it honks me right off!

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Same issues Rebels had at first.

I guess it’s part of the creative crew finding their feet.

Don’t go too deep into plot and lore in case of cancellation maybe? I’ve had too many shows be cancelled in the middle of plot, and it honks me right off!


I think the main difference is Rebels mostly had things together by the end of its first season, while Resistance apparently kept having the same issues all the way through its season finale.

It's possible that the big issue is maybe in the timing? Both Clone Wars and Rebels happened "after the fact", while Resistance has kicked off before the trilogy it feeds in to is finished. That could make it harder for them to get approval for any plots that aren't pretty anodyne, or the apparent lack of a proper plan for the trilogy could just mean they didn't have much to work with.

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Yeah it aimed at younger audiences for sure but it’s still fun to watch. I found the later episodes quite fun too but hey il happily watch Star Wars Lego cartoons with the lads. Best thing is I’m passing my love of all things Star Wars on to them which is never a bad thing.
   
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Rebels is probably the highlight of Disney's version of SW other than R1.

It's better written and more coherent than the new trilogy on the whole.
Plus it has one of my favourite scenes from SW in general (Maul v Obi the rematch).

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Soooo much potential!

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Rebels is probably the highlight of Disney's version of SW other than R1.

It's better written and more coherent than the new trilogy on the whole.
Plus it has one of my favourite scenes from SW in general (Maul v Obi the rematch).


That scene was fantastic, i truly wish maul had been in all 3 prequel films.
   
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Need to show that one to my son.

   
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Honestly Rogue One and Solo have been great.
What these 3 films need is a PLAN to them. a rough outline.
I hope disney learns from the backlash to TLJ, while it did make money, Reception has been....mixed.

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Disney produced good Star Wars TV shows. Both Rebels and Clone Wars were a success. Rogue One is considered one of the best Star Wars movie. Solo, while heavily criticised, was far from bad. It was mostly an average sci-fi adventure, but without Force user, the univers becomes extremely generic, like a blank slate. While I did liked both movies of the new trilogy. They could have used a more careful approach. They seem to follow the original trilogy method of basically making one movie after the other without careful consideration for an overall plot. The first trilogy was a success, but it was a few decision away from a disaster and some decision had a weird side-effect like Obiwan being some sort of liar. If they are to make another trilogy (and frankly why not), they should write it whole and then separate it in three part to make a more consistent series.
   
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 creeping-deth87 wrote:
I won't deny that the prequels were bad, but I'm not sure I can agree that they're worse than the sequel trilogy. For all their faults, episodes I through III at least tried to do something different with the Star Wars universe. They were not re-treads of the OT, and however badly bungled their execution might have been I can at least respect them for exploring that universe in a different way.

The sequel trilogy? I can't even give those films credit for that. Force Awakens and Last Jedi are just chock full of needless throwbacks to the original trilogy, bend over backwards to restore the status quo from ANH so that they can do the whole underdogs vs. space Nazis thing over again (and, in the process, basically invalidating the end of ROTJ), and throw original cast cameos in our face because they're terrified of doing something new. They might be better executed, technically better made films, but they're so painfully lazy and derivative that I really can't bring myself to say that they're better films than the prequel trilogy. I just can't.


Well really, prequels were full of throwbacks (throwfronts?) to the OT as well. It is particularly notable in AotK and RotS, lots of mirrored scenes. And tons of characters from OT shown for no reason (C3PO, Chewbacca etc).

I went in to Phantom Menace having read stories how Jar Jar Binks really suck. Having prepared to this, I did not actually find him that bad. Annoying and unfunny, sure but a minor distraction. But I really did not like kiddie Anakin. He was awful, just terrible in idea and execution. Jake Lloyd has since grown to hate Star Wars because of all the crap he took from the fans, he was really depressed, burned all his memorablia etc. If Lucas ever deserves hate from something, it is writing and casting this role which was guaranteed to put the performer in terrible position.


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 AegisGrimm wrote:
The problem with Leia using the force to get back to the ship is that her ability comes out of nowhere. There is nothing earlier to establish she ever went anywhere with her abilities.


Well, she only discovered she has (or is supposed to have) Force abilities in very end of RotJ. Next time we see her, she is leader of the Resistance busy doing leader stuff. There is very limited screentime for her to show off her Force stuff.
EU stories of course had her as full-blown Jedi.

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 LunarSol wrote:
Somebody had to care about Avatar. It didn’t sell nearly $3 billion in tickets because no one cared.


I wonder if there's a correlation to hating it if you're from an imperialistic nation and liking it if you're from a nation with a history of being invaded and plundered.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
Somebody had to care about Avatar. It didn’t sell nearly $3 billion in tickets because no one cared.


I wonder if there's a correlation to hating it if you're from an imperialistic nation and liking it if you're from a nation with a history of being invaded and plundered.


   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
Somebody had to care about Avatar. It didn’t sell nearly $3 billion in tickets because no one cared.


I wonder if there's a correlation to hating it if you're from an imperialistic nation and liking it if you're from a nation with a history of being invaded and plundered.


I am form the Uk and liked it.....we were invaded a bit and did rather more of it ourselves but most nations have been equally successfuly at invading someone at some point.....

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 Crimson Devil wrote:
If you consider TLJ to be such a bad movie you waste 1000s of words and who knows how much time complaining about it, then you haven't really seen very many bad movies. I guess you've never seen the prequels.


Prequels are bad yes but they are still better. Both are bad BUT at least they tried to create something new. TFA and TLJ I basically saw 20 years ago already. Better written. Nothing new in the TFA and TLJ.

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Never bothered with Resistance after the 3rd or 4th episode. Just didn't see the point.

Then again I did give up on Rebels during its first season, until people kept telling me "No! It gets good once Tarkin shows up!", so I gave it another go and never looked back.

   
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tneva82 wrote:
 Crimson Devil wrote:
If you consider TLJ to be such a bad movie you waste 1000s of words and who knows how much time complaining about it, then you haven't really seen very many bad movies. I guess you've never seen the prequels.


Prequels are bad yes but they are still better. Both are bad BUT at least they tried to create something new. TFA and TLJ I basically saw 20 years ago already. Better written. Nothing new in the TFA and TLJ.


No, they really weren't. Read the scripts sometime. Lucas himself said his entire script came from The Hidden Fortress. The editing style: Flash Gordon serials. The music: Williams freely admits to cribbing from Wagner. Not to knock it (hell, half of Shakespeare's stuff came from the Italians). Just about every shot from every Tarantino film was taken from somewhere else, like a Family Guy episode, but done well. Just to say, "create something new" isn't really in the artistic lexicon. It's how the stories are told, not the stories themselves.

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IN that case, the sequels still suck.

   
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Just to give my two cents on the quality of the original trilogy.

They’re not well written. The direction of the first is terrible and of the second and third is competent, but no better.

The acting of the three lead actors is embarrassingly bad in A New Hope. I put that down to a combination of their lack of experience and the poor direction. Their acting is so much improved in the later films once they have a competent director to guide them.

However, the things that are amazing are the editing (which saved the first movie), the sound design, the cinematography and the effects.

Most of all though, the aspect that still stands up and one of the greatest examples of its execution in movie history, is the production design. Even after all these years, I still get goosebumps at the sight (and sound) of a TIE Fighter screaming through the frame.
   
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I did (and still do) find the original films as a fun adventure - nothing more.

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 Galef wrote:

Still not happy that Luke is gone, but if they can manage to have him in IX as a Force ghost WITH Yoda, Anakin and hopefully Obi-wan, it might be worth it.
I just really, REALLY wanna see an interaction between Force ghost Anakin and Kylo Ren.


It would probably be Anakin passing a hand over his head and saying "seriously, dude, whoosh". Then again, one of the things I do like about the prequels is how Ren's arc moves from him being an in-universe Vader fanboy to actually exceeding him by the standards of the Sith.

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A resounding "meh".
   
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I sometimes wish they made a Star Wars movie which doesn't take place in some damn desert. But I suppose the galaxy has seen so many environmental disasters that most of the habitable planets have been desertificated. Makes sense I guess.

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