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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 10:34:30
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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The "van" looks awesome!
Somehow this thread lacks (or I just missed) the most prominent "train" in modern fiction
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 13:59:46
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Viktor von Domm wrote:
well....
and here my latest works...:
the passengers compartment
with added widow panes, and the canopies of the ends are after a suggestion by londe dirty dog... made form pingpong ball and very thin stripes of PC... still some rivets needed and then I need to figure out a way to connect all the parts... some hook system.....  hhmmmmm
and the engine...
as you see...hot rod style I went for ... and indeed for a sec today I marvelled how it would look with tank treads... but the coach wheels are the look I want to work with some more... a big wheel option wasn´t possible as I currently can´t get a hold on bigger and still matching wheels...
well I hope you´ll like...and don´t hold back any ideas you have for adding!!!
cheers, vik
Automatically Appended Next Post:
 thanks for the confidence!!!^^
This is 1840 era equipment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 17:59:57
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nice!! Now for many rivets, and lots of pipes...PIIIPES!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 18:08:53
Subject: Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Battleship Captain
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The train is coming along well. A nice bolstering of rivets. Keep traveling in style Vik.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 18:12:39
Subject: Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Looking really smart, matey. Love it.
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Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 21:12:32
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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lone dirty dog wrote:Nice work mate and turned out better than I thought  you really pulled it off and I knew you must have a few knocking around still
Also I am holding judgment on the steam stacks at the moment maybe to see it progress a little more, I will be honest as I have 2 concerns with them : 1 they seem to be crossing over which seems a little messy I think they would look better if one ran above the other rather than over hanging. 2 the size of the tubing have you got anything slightly thinner, that way you could do 3 stacks running inline just a thought
O yes they can't produce that train as a kit if you look it has pipes and parts of the boiler/tank from the chemical plant terrain kit on it along with GW tank wheels, don't think it would take long for the lawyers to come calling
ah I see... yeah... I recognized these pipes but haven´t recognised the track wheels...
and you are right of courser about the pipes....that´s why I have RIPPED them off^^...instantly today morning after reading this... I still had a bit of free time before work...see below what has become of the train now...
Anvildude wrote:One thing you might want to look at is how everything flows in the model. Right now, it's looking a little disjointed between the smooth curve of the boiler, the sweep back of the cowcatcher (that's what the little ram thing on the front is called, by the way) and the slightly aggressive swoop forwards of some of the other parts.
would like to get that bit a bit better explained as I don´t get you fully here...and I think you´re onto something there...
Hruotland wrote:One thing you might want to look at is how everything flows in the model. Right now, it's looking a little disjointed between the smooth curve of the boiler, the sweep back of the cowcatcher (that's what the little ram thing on the front is called, by the way) and the slightly aggressive swoop forwards of some of the other parts.
Well I think the point is you have to decide if the look suggests pulling power or velocity. The blocky basic design cries pulling power to me, not velocity, while the slim hot-rod exhausts look like speed. Maybe look out for tractorpulling machines, not for drag-race hot rods to find a suitable arrangement with your exhausts?
 
Also to look convincing as a land train you need to modify the exle configuration. Your six-wheeler is definitely designed for rails. It needs to look like you could navigate it - in other words like you can turn the first axle. At least move it more forward, and make it look like it is separated from the main frame. Also to enhance the look of power,you might consider make the four hind wheels look bulkier, surround them with a broad iron band with profile on it. See what I mean?

But I totally dig your idea of a six-wheeled land train locomotion, and as usual your build will be fantastically hilarious in the end!
hmm...good point... it is not really built for velocity... so pulling... just like your average train... it is also a four axle engine... but I will not be able to fix the wheel look as the axles I don´t really like to change the positioning here as I have drilled the holes from side to side and changing something here would probably endanger the structure...
tell me how you are now standing to the new pipes...
storag wrote:The "van" looks awesome!
Somehow this thread lacks (or I just missed) the most prominent "train" in modern fiction
funny how this train of the doc yet never has shown up... but be sure it is "floating around my head the whole time nevertheless!!!
Lone Cat wrote:
had to look it up... and Queen Victoria ruled for quite some time which makes it a perfect hit as your stated time falls directly into her ruling time
dsteingass wrote:Nice!! Now for many rivets, and lots of pipes...PIIIPES!
cool... I never heard the true voice of cosby...
and probably would have felt the same in that car
cormadepanda wrote:The train is coming along well. A nice bolstering of rivets. Keep traveling in style Vik.
 ...hope it is still achieved after the recent changes...
inmygravenimage wrote:Looking really smart, matey. Love it.
thanks mate!
well shop smart...shop at S-mart^^
after LDD´s remark and musings about the pipe arrangement...I had to change the setup...
this is what it looks now...:
what do you say? cheers, vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 22:06:30
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Totally rocks now plus the engine flows much better visually, the smokestacks are more fitting, neater and pleasing to the eye I also like the coal compartment at the back of the cab.
Great update Vik plus I like the way you raised the middle stack slightly, what have you got in mind next
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 22:39:35
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Painting Within the Lines
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I'm totally with dog on this. Also the flap valves on the smokestack are great!
Now about the steering issue, as on the last pic there were only six wheels on it I hadn't registered there was a fourth axle. But still no prob, look out for "articulated"steam engines. (german: "Gelenklokomotiven". The "sächsische Schmalspurbahn" have lots of examples to offer. Divide your drives in two double-axle sections, and just hint at the gap between front frame and back frame. In real life you also don't always see the gap.

Now imagine chains running from the front cylinders up to the drivers cabin, to be pulled in order to steer the front frame around. Like lokomobiles often had chains to direct the front axle:
What do you think?
(If you haven't recognized yet, I'm kind of steam engine enthusiast. No steampunk for me, I am too much of a steam punk... But mostly, i have made the experience in order to design something fictional that looks like it MIGHT work the solution is nine out of ten times to look for something similar in real life. Even if it is completely nonsensical it reminds the viewer of something that works - or in case of more esoterical designs, something someone at least thought it WOULD work at one point...)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/26 06:25:29
Subject: Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Looks more coherent and more steampunky, that's a whole lot of win!
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Theophony"... and there's strippers in terminator armor and lovecraftian shenanigans afoot."
Solar_Lion: "Man this sums up your blog nicely."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/26 09:55:44
Subject: Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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I like the angles you have gone for on the smoke stacks. Having the second at a different angle to the first look great, almost as it is spreading its wings
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/26 12:25:12
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I love the triple pipe look! Looks fantastic!
Although I guessed you would've rounded them at the manifold area and flared them back
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/29 15:34:03
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Hruotland wrote:I'm totally with dog on this. Also the flap valves on the smokestack are great!
Now about the steering issue, as on the last pic there were only six wheels on it I hadn't registered there was a fourth axle. But still no prob, look out for "articulated"steam engines. (german: "Gelenklokomotiven". The "sächsische Schmalspurbahn" have lots of examples to offer. Divide your drives in two double-axle sections, and just hint at the gap between front frame and back frame. In real life you also don't always see the gap.

Now imagine chains running from the front cylinders up to the drivers cabin, to be pulled in order to steer the front frame around. Like lokomobiles often had chains to direct the front axle:
What do you think?
(If you haven't recognized yet, I'm kind of steam engine enthusiast. No steampunk for me, I am too much of a steam punk... But mostly, i have made the experience in order to design something fictional that looks like it MIGHT work the solution is nine out of ten times to look for something similar in real life. Even if it is completely nonsensical it reminds the viewer of something that works - or in case of more esoterical designs, something someone at least thought it WOULD work at one point...)
The first locomotive you've shown is called 'Mallet'. Tis one appears to be logging or mining locomitive. It was designed to work on mountainous area.
This is my most favorite Mallet meow~
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/29 17:13:57
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Lone Cat wrote: Hruotland wrote:I'm totally with dog on this. Also the flap valves on the smokestack are great!
Now about the steering issue, as on the last pic there were only six wheels on it I hadn't registered there was a fourth axle. But still no prob, look out for "articulated"steam engines. (german: "Gelenklokomotiven". The "sächsische Schmalspurbahn" have lots of examples to offer. Divide your drives in two double-axle sections, and just hint at the gap between front frame and back frame. In real life you also don't always see the gap.

Now imagine chains running from the front cylinders up to the drivers cabin, to be pulled in order to steer the front frame around. Like lokomobiles often had chains to direct the front axle:
What do you think?
(If you haven't recognized yet, I'm kind of steam engine enthusiast. No steampunk for me, I am too much of a steam punk... But mostly, i have made the experience in order to design something fictional that looks like it MIGHT work the solution is nine out of ten times to look for something similar in real life. Even if it is completely nonsensical it reminds the viewer of something that works - or in case of more esoterical designs, something someone at least thought it WOULD work at one point...)
The first locomotive you've shown is called 'Mallet'. Tis one appears to be logging or mining locomitive. It was designed to work on mountainous area.
This is my most favorite Mallet meow~
If I recall the Mallet was designed for routes with lots of long tunnels - the design narrowed the cab and improved crew visibility greatly. There weren't very many of them built and they fell out of favor for EMD diesel "tunnel engines" that resolved the issues of smoke, visibility and clearance. Interestingly the EMD engines worked so well that they are now the standard power unit in most North American locomotives, starting the the GP7 "geep".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/29 19:43:00
Subject: Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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Chattanooga Choo-Choo. Song of the week.
Looks impressive. Trains have a certain appeal, no?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/29 20:46:09
Subject: Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Mysterious Techpriest
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Those pipes are a huge improvement Vik
The canopy on the carriage are a really good use of a ping pong ball.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/01 11:06:54
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Trains looking geat Vik, it's coming along nicely
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/06 06:49:28
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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Calling all Vik, calling all Vik, are you out there!
Please I need my Vik fix man!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/06 20:31:25
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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hey mates... i have been away due to a lack of time and energy... just started my last internship for my apprenticeship to become a nursery nurse...
well atm I am working at a school... with a small bunch of newly enrolled pupils... and also my wee oskar is turning out to become a great oskart, as he too enrolled into school just a mere two weeks ago...
well...this means our family life changed a wee bit (the chaotic bit^^) and I was a bit too drained to be here at all...well...I am back again...
but first I have to announce the big supply drop I got from Camkierhi! my price for taking part in the last LoER terrain competition...
and he was so generous to include a whole set of Dr H´s finest bathroom items... so I think I need to make a small homage terrain piece soon^^
or to put in another way...:
thank you CAM!!!!
everything arrived in mint condition and I was totally surprised!... so much cool stuff ... my head is already spinning on what future project I will use all this....
as to the current project ... I have today worked a wee bit on the bridge and maybe tomorrow I will be able to show you some small progress....
cross your fingers!
cheers, vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 18:42:05
Subject: Imperial steam punk....a train of thought...
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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soooooo.... here comes an actual update after the long silence....:
and it even shows a plethora of rivets...
and some more detailed shots:
I think the reversed rivtes will bring a nice look... rusty and so on...
thanks for watching...
cheers, vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 18:54:51
Subject: Imperial steam punk....let there be rivets....
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That is a seriously impressive bridge mate. Kudos indeed!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 19:23:19
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....let there be rivets....
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Fixture of Dakka
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The panel and rivet look works a treat, great work Vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 19:50:39
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Great job on the new update and loving the embossed reversed rivets
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 20:23:57
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal
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Good work on the bridge.
Look forward to seeing what you do with the bathroom items. What do you think of them now you have then in your hand?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/07 21:13:56
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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Those riveted sheets look fantastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/08 02:51:15
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Silence due to intense rivet works!
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/08 03:16:36
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Battleship Captain
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Excellent job Vik. Nice good angles and all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/08 10:06:12
Subject: Re:Imperial steam punk....let there be rivets....
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Painting Within the Lines
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yeah, that bridge looks very convincing. - But I fear you will have difficulties in bringing the train and bridge together, because of the extreme ramps. I have a feeling you wont be able to place the train on it while cobbled together...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/08 14:20:44
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Maybe its also a skimmer so can take the bridge with ease?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/08 17:32:16
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Really nice work, love the bridge and the inverted rivets
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/08 19:22:43
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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Well Vik its been a good while hasn't it ..  Really liking your paneling and inverted rivets technique - the train looks fabulous by the way .. you really have become expert at scratch building mate .. great to see.
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