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 erewego86 wrote:

First number is the mass class of the XV armor--XV1 is standard fire warrior armor and at the other end is 104 which obviously is much larger.
Second number is simply the number in the series of that particular mass class--XV88 is the eighth class of suit in eight mass class.

I think the Riptide is an XV10, size class with a class 4 role.

Nicely explained here: http://advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9399

 Archonate wrote:

 erewego86 wrote:

First number is the mass class of the XV armor--XV1 is standard fire warrior armor and at the other end is 104 which obviously is much larger.
Second number is simply the number in the series of that particular mass class--XV88 is the eighth class of suit in eight mass class.

I think the Riptide is an XV10, size class with a class 4 role.

Nicely explained here: http://advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9399

Partially Right--you may have gotten the impression that the riptide is an XV1 because of how I worded my post. The riptide is obviously part of mass class 10, not 1.

The 2006 codex states that the second number simply designates an entry in the mass class without implying some other function. The ATT article is neat but contradicts the codex in this case. I think the ATT version of the numbering would pigeonhole the suits too much. What if GW wanted to release another XV8 sized suit with a railgun? Would it have to be designated an 88?

Im really looking forward to plopping down the Riptide. It looks like it will be fun to use against people, atleast in my meta.

I just hope I don't have to give up battlesuits to do it.

You will still have two other slots.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
You will still have two other slots.

But...but...muh all battlesuit armeh!

Meh, I prefer one thing of crisis suits, not 9 of them. to much to go worng.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Meh, I prefer one thing of crisis suits, not 9 of them. to much to go worng.

That...doesn't really make much sense. If anything there's even more that can go wrong when you take just one squad of them, because if they die (and they will) then your army's lost most of its firepower right there. When you take 9 suits you still have two other squads.

I delude quite a bit of firepower, my suits tend to be just of facet of my army.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I delude quite a bit of firepower, my suits tend to be just of facet of my army.

One of my favorite tactics is to take a max squad with twin-linked flamers and DS them right behind a fragile and expensive/critical unit, and just blow it up.Works REALLY well against guard armies that focus on the order's system.

It's like 80pnts maybe? And it can really screw up some armies.

 erewego86 wrote:

 Shadox wrote:
Actually I find it a bit confusing, do XV8 and 9 don't have such a purpose clarification number because their equipment is not that specialized like the XV88, but why does the XV25 have one then?

First number is the mass class of the XV armor--XV1 is standard fire warrior armor and at the other end is 104 which obviously is much larger.
Second number is simply the number in the series of that particular mass class--XV88 is the eighth class of suit in eight mass class.

Interesting, while I knew this stuff, seeing it in front of me makes me wonder, is the Riptide the "ten four" or the "one oh four"

and if it's the "ten four", will I ever be able to think of my Tau as anything but truckers using CB radio lingo ever again?

Ok, ok I just can't keep quiet. The new Broadsides are just ridiculously over-priced.... GW actually BEAT Forgeworld!?

I was super excited about the new models (never added XV88's to my Tau army because of the model) but the price is just stupid.
Time to wait for Hasbro to acquire GW...

Drunkspleen wrote:

Interesting, while I knew this stuff, seeing it in front of me makes me wonder, is the Riptide the "ten four" or the "one oh four"

and if it's the "ten four", will I ever be able to think of my Tau as anything but truckers using CB radio lingo ever again?

Funny, I had the same thought today when trying to think of what I was going to call the model/unit(I refuse to use the stupid riptide name. ) What I came up with is:

The "Good Buddy" (Shortened to GD) or "Hammer Down " if the number is sounded out as 10-4(Ten Four).

If the number is sounded out as 1-0-4(One Oh Four) Then I will just stick with the numbers. Sounds very military to call in fire from your 1-0-4's.

Actually military lingo for a XV 10-4 (104) would be X-ray, Victor one, zero, (dash), four

yeah it will be hard to give up elite slots for all the cool suits...but XV-9 are in the fast attack slots of the force org.

And just do big games with 2 force orgs muwhahaha.

Anyway I have started my big jar of tau savings money for this release..tic toc tic toc

Davor wrote:
So how is the fluff for the other codexes? I like what they did for DA.

So, you like how basically nothing changed from before? Now, I love my Dark Angels, but their fluff has been pretty much the same since Angels of Death. Reworded a few things, but it's still the same old "secrets".

*prays to the dice gods that the fliers won't suck*

The giant robot is fun and all but I'm seriously hoping tau get to be more competitive with the flier department being that they got all this advance tech and stuff. Should at least be better than orks!

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Actually military lingo for a XV 10-4 (104) would be X-ray, Victor wun, zero, fower

fix'd

Not with my FSO or FSNCO he would crap a brick at that..0 always had to Zero and everything clearly pronounced, we had a southern fella that had a hell of a time with the command over his radio ops, the only number you pronounced strangely was three--its was tree.

But numbers I kinda important when calling in artillery

I'm imagining it's pronounced ten/four, separating the two classes... But I could be wrong.

I'm hoping the Riptide at least has the survivability of 3 Crisis Suits. If it has a T stat rather than an AV, I'm hoping it's like 8, but guessing it'll be 6.

I hope pathfinders are kick ass space commandos that just straight kick teeth in.

katfude wrote:
I hope pathfinders are kick ass space commandos that just straight kick teeth in.

With guns obviously.

I agree. They've always seemed to be commando types to me.

XV8 always annoyed me, given that Tau decals and fluff seem to indicate they have a base 8 system. XV10 is alright, but forgeworld XV89 is just completely wrong...

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So, What new fluff are you hoping for? I really hope for more fluff on stealth suits and Septs.

I'm very keen to see the new fluff reasoning for battle brothers alliance rating with Space Marines...

Pure conjecture on my part, but I'd assume it's got something to do with the Ultramarines and Tau working together to stop the 'Nids. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that.

 Archonate wrote:
I'm imagining it's pronounced ten/four, separating the two classes... But I could be wrong.

I'm hoping the Riptide at least has the survivability of 3 Crisis Suits. If it has a T stat rather than an AV, I'm hoping it's like 8, but guessing it'll be 6.

There isn't a number 10 in the Tau base 8 numerical system.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 Archonate wrote:
I'm imagining it's pronounced ten/four, separating the two classes... But I could be wrong.

I'm hoping the Riptide at least has the survivability of 3 Crisis Suits. If it has a T stat rather than an AV, I'm hoping it's like 8, but guessing it'll be 6.

There isn't a number 10 in the Tau base 8 numerical system.

1-0. not 10.

Tau have numbers above 7, just not digits. Same as USA having an F-16 despite a decimal number system.

RedSarge wrote:
Ok, ok I just can't keep quiet. The new Broadsides are just ridiculously over-priced.... GW actually BEAT Forgeworld!?

Isn't the new Broadside a lot bigger than before? Might be I'm just not seeing straight but I thought it seemed to be on the bigger base and probably Carnifex/Maulerfiend sized. A Tyrannofex type of heavy slugger.

 Shadox wrote:
Actually I find it a bit confusing, do XV8 and 9 don't have such a purpose clarification number because their equipment is not that specialized like the XV88, but why does the XV25 have one then?

Because the 5 is for stealth, thus the two size variants for stealth armor are 15 and 25.

When will these go on pre-order in the UK? Next Saturday I assume.....

I'm looking forward to reading the entire Riptide rules to see if I can make a Kroot counts-as with this model collecting dust:



I also hope that these rumors about skyfire broadsides are good enough to tone down fliers in the overall meta, but not too good that everyone who can ally with Tau will just to take broadsides.