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alextroy wrote: Actually, the April 2019 FAQ Release date has been the target since shortly after they released the Adepticon delayed FAQ in 2018.
And we should all stop being surprised that when GW says Month X, they mean the end of Month X. It's happened so many times (Fall FAQ, Orktober and the Codex release, etc.) to be a trend rather than an aberration.
The delay was announced in this article from last month (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/19/coming-soon-warhammer-40000-2019-faqs-update-1gw-homepage-post-2/). You can say for sure that we should have expected it to be delayed, and indeed Games Workshop made a precedent last year when they changed the FAQ from the March FAQ to just the spring FAQ. They had good reason to do so as well, since it's difficult to predict the changes and work you'd have to do a year down the line. But what is questionable is why Games Workshop would announce they didn't have much work that had to be done. Seems like a silly thing for them to put in their article.
Darsath wrote: I want to point out that the April release date was already a delay on the FAQ. Originally, they announced that the FAQ was to release in March, but chose to delay it to incorporate feedback from Adepticon. They also announced the game is in a pretty good place as it is. Curious as to whether they've changed their tone then, or if Adepticon showed some big problems, since otherwise they wouldn't have to be so late on their release.
They moved it permanently to April last year so no, it wasn't supposed to come in March.
Darsath wrote: I want to point out that the April release date was already a delay on the FAQ. Originally, they announced that the FAQ was to release in March, but chose to delay it to incorporate feedback from Adepticon. They also announced the game is in a pretty good place as it is. Curious as to whether they've changed their tone then, or if Adepticon showed some big problems, since otherwise they wouldn't have to be so late on their release.
They moved it permanently to April last year so no, it wasn't supposed to come in March.
I think they moved it just to Spring. Would make the most sense, since it gives them time to play with depending on what needs done.
When a student turns in a paper at 11:59 PM, the teacher may not be surprised, but they don't have to be pleased either. Again, as others have said, if there really isn't much to the FAQ, they should've dropped it already. If it required substantial changes due to Adepticon, they should convey that info. GW doesn't owe anybody the FAQ... but we also don't owe them the money we spend to buy half-baked rules with obvious typos. When money is changing hands, it is the responsibility of the business to foster communication, trust, and transparency. If GW doesn't get that, the cashflow will dry up over time.
endlesswaltz123 wrote: Personally, I'm an advocate of stratagems work like a side deck. You 'spend' your command points pre-game in what you decide to bring along as strats. When you use the strat you expend the card.
Whether I'd allow duplicates or not is something I'd have to ponder, I lean towards no, but maybe they could only be allowed every other player turn.
So a shoot twice strat that is used turn one could only be used again from turn 3 onwards.
This means that you have to carefully consider how you want the strats to work pre-game, you can't just pick what you need and when out of an expansive list.
I'd also potentially allow a period before a game where you declare your strats along with your army list to your opponent. At that point you have 5 minutes or so to change any of your strats based upong your opponents list and strats.
Once this change has been made, no further changes are allowed.
Go for no duplication and that's not a bad idea actually. It would limit the broken combos to once per game and also make relying on such a combo dangerous since there are counter-strategems to worry about. You'd still have to straighten out CP generation though.
Maybe not the time-limit thing either outside tournaments.
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Darsath wrote: I want to point out that the April release date was already a delay on the FAQ. Originally, they announced that the FAQ was to release in March, but chose to delay it to incorporate feedback from Adepticon. They also announced the game is in a pretty good place as it is. Curious as to whether they've changed their tone then, or if Adepticon showed some big problems, since otherwise they wouldn't have to be so late on their release.
That change happened LAST YEAR so it's hardly fair to say it's been delayed when they LAST YEAR decided rather than march faq we have spring FAQ.
Only month we have been told for this year FAQ is april. March was NEVER EVER EVER mentioned for the FAQ this year. It's been spring faq. Then they said april after adepticos. Funny that, april is still going on.
Darsath wrote: I want to point out that the April release date was already a delay on the FAQ. Originally, they announced that the FAQ was to release in March, but chose to delay it to incorporate feedback from Adepticon. They also announced the game is in a pretty good place as it is. Curious as to whether they've changed their tone then, or if Adepticon showed some big problems, since otherwise they wouldn't have to be so late on their release.
That change happened LAST YEAR so it's hardly fair to say it's been delayed when they LAST YEAR decided rather than march faq we have spring FAQ.
Only month we have been told for this year FAQ is april. March was NEVER EVER EVER mentioned for the FAQ this year. It's been spring faq. Then they said april after adepticos. Funny that, april is still going on.
Before you go all caps on me, please read my other responses first. They didn't change it to April specifically, but to Spring. I find this fair. It was last month that Games Workshop themselves announced they had delayed the release from March to April. Not my words, but theirs.
Gene St. Ealer wrote: When a student turns in a paper at 11:59 PM, the teacher may not be surprised, but they don't have to be pleased either. Again, as others have said, if there really isn't much to the FAQ, they should've dropped it already. If it required substantial changes due to Adepticon, they should convey that info. GW doesn't owe anybody the FAQ... but we also don't owe them the money we spend to buy half-baked rules with obvious typos. When money is changing hands, it is the responsibility of the business to foster communication, trust, and transparency. If GW doesn't get that, the cashflow will dry up over time.
To me it seems pretty likely they wanted to wait until after WD dropped with the Ynnari rules. Makes sense.
Darsath wrote: I want to point out that the April release date was already a delay on the FAQ. Originally, they announced that the FAQ was to release in March, but chose to delay it to incorporate feedback from Adepticon. They also announced the game is in a pretty good place as it is. Curious as to whether they've changed their tone then, or if Adepticon showed some big problems, since otherwise they wouldn't have to be so late on their release.
I feel like it's just that they didn't want to step on the toes of bigger things, because if we're being honest the FAQs suck all the air out of the room. The survey and the return of Slaanesh are priority.
If that is the case then I imagine Monday might be the day.
I don't like it, but agree that they had to wait until Slaanesh was released or it would have overwhelmed their new release... and they missed their chance to release it before the Slaanesh release.
Next weekend is a Bank Holiday so that may be a further delay
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Gene St. Ealer wrote: When a student turns in a paper at 11:59 PM, the teacher may not be surprised, but they don't have to be pleased either. Again, as others have said, if there really isn't much to the FAQ, they should've dropped it already. If it required substantial changes due to Adepticon, they should convey that info. GW doesn't owe anybody the FAQ... but we also don't owe them the money we spend to buy half-baked rules with obvious typos. When money is changing hands, it is the responsibility of the business to foster communication, trust, and transparency. If GW doesn't get that, the cashflow will dry up over time.
I don't mind waiting to be honest. Better a good FAQ then an eariler one. But I also do agree, if I bring my medical a day before an event, am not going to go to the event and my trainer is going to be pissed at me.
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Darsath wrote: I want to point out that the April release date was already a delay on the FAQ. Originally, they announced that the FAQ was to release in March, but chose to delay it to incorporate feedback from Adepticon. They also announced the game is in a pretty good place as it is. Curious as to whether they've changed their tone then, or if Adepticon showed some big problems, since otherwise they wouldn't have to be so late on their release.
That change happened LAST YEAR so it's hardly fair to say it's been delayed when they LAST YEAR decided rather than march faq we have spring FAQ.
Only month we have been told for this year FAQ is april. March was NEVER EVER EVER mentioned for the FAQ this year. It's been spring faq. Then they said april after adepticos. Funny that, april is still going on.
Before you go all caps on me, please read my other responses first. They didn't change it to April specifically, but to Spring. I find this fair. It was last month that Games Workshop themselves announced they had delayed the release from March to April. Not my words, but theirs.
So, what I'm to believe is this document that " won't do much " is delayed because all of these not big changes would somehow take the thunder out of some releases ? Someone has to be kidding here somewhere.
Also, you expect me to believe that this company that has ample PR people now and actually uses the net to spread information as well as a twitch channel to showcase their products can't get any kind of word out on when they will drop this item ?
If this was any other game developer we'd be calling them incompetent. Why does GW get a pass for seemingly being unable to function like a big boy company they look to be ? It's like we are just very proud they can at least manage to remember what they sell. I guess I can be thankful at least their customer service for what you buy is worlds better than rules support or even their editing skills.
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Sim-Life wrote: You can't delay something that never had an official release date. Must we do this dance every April/September?
When they are too lazy to even make comment on it ? Yeah it seems we must. How hard would it be to put out any information on an ETA for something they know everyone is anxious for ? In the past, when they did no information drops with any kind of ease, I understood it. Now, there really is no reason for the zero interaction and no way they don't know when it's going to drop, even an estimate to tide people over would be great. I mean we had what 2 straight months of hype building for shadow spear, but to know when this will drop is top secret ?
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How hard is it to simply wait before losing our minds? We have 2 days of april left. How hard is wait that 2 days? Play game or two. Paint unit or two. Read a book. Watch couple movies. Learn game of go. Lots of things you can do. It's only a faq. Not salvation of mankind we are waiting. GW isn't even late from deadline here.
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tneva82 wrote: How hard is it to simply wait before losing our minds? We have 2 days of april left. How hard is wait that 2 days? Play game or two. Paint unit or two. Read a book. Watch couple movies. Learn game of go. Lots of things you can do. It's only a faq. Not salvation of mankind we are waiting. GW isn't even late from deadline here.
People want to know their rules to adjust. Nothing wrong with anticipation. Calm down your holier than thou mentality there, bud
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Nobody is saying we can't wait, obviously we can. I was just wondering why they can't at least be bothered to let us know an ETA for the release rather than hints, then total radio silence on the matter. That would do a lot to make peoples day. Just having a more certain idea.
I don't think its an unreasonable wish either. If they were selling it to us best believe they'd been braining us over the head with it for months now.
tneva82 wrote: How hard is it to simply wait before losing our minds? We have 2 days of april left. How hard is wait that 2 days? Play game or two. Paint unit or two. Read a book. Watch couple movies. Learn game of go. Lots of things you can do. It's only a faq. Not salvation of mankind we are waiting. GW isn't even late from deadline here.
I'm looking forward to starting a new army for a about a month now. There is no way I am starting a new army with a faq about to drop.
So yeah, I wish we didn't have to wait this long.
Yeah the people mad about the FAQ are either people looking to buy models that won't become useless when the FAQ drops or tournament players that want to know which lists to use to train for future tournaments. There's nothing wrong about being impatient, GW's lack of communication is frustrating on that part and releasing it the last minute of April just because they said April is borderline "that guy". Especially if it's such a small FAQ as they said earlier, although I doubt it will be small given they have no idea what's happening in their game on a regular basis and won't realise they'll shake up everything with unexplainable nerfs like the Fly nerf from last time.
But would it drop the sells of GW stuff. If they put something on their site that is close to , guys we maybe a bit late with the FAQ?
Plus if the FAQ is suppose to not be ground breaking, why does it take so long to write the thing down?
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tneva82 wrote: How hard is it to simply wait before losing our minds? We have 2 days of april left. How hard is wait that 2 days? Play game or two. Paint unit or two. Read a book. Watch couple movies. Learn game of go. Lots of things you can do. It's only a faq. Not salvation of mankind we are waiting. GW isn't even late from deadline here.
I'm looking forward to starting a new army for a about a month now. There is no way I am starting a new army with a faq about to drop.
So yeah, I wish we didn't have to wait this long.
Really though?
Because it could all change again in a matter of months. Just get what you like.
Unless you're planning to make waves on the tournament scene (where you expect to regularly buy whole new armies anyway) this behaviour doesn't make much sense to me.
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Karol wrote: But would it drop the sells of GW stuff. If they put something on their site that is close to , guys we maybe a bit late with the FAQ?
Plus if the FAQ is suppose to not be ground breaking, why does it take so long to write the thing down?
I don't think it would significantly impact sales. Outside of the Dakka echo chamber, people are a lot less bothered about FAQ dates. The group for my FLGS isn't talking about it at all.
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I don't think it would significantly impact sales. Outside of the Dakka echo chamber, people are a lot less bothered about FAQ dates. The group for my FLGS isn't talking about it at all.
I envy you then. People here talk about nothing else. Two people didn't start armies because of FAQ. I myself lost all hope that GW is ever going to fix my army. Now I just hope they make marines that look like GK, are good, and look a bit the same. I mean if the game is good according to them, then they are never going to change bad factions.
If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain.
