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GW used to make multipose character models now and then - chaos termie lord/ sorc lord, exalted sorcs kit, a few others too I think. They don't any more, that bit is true.
   
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King Kirby probably realised it was a horribly inefficient way to maximise profits on a single miniature. Look how far they've come since then, it's much better now.

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yukishiro1 wrote:
GW used to make multipose character models now and then - chaos termie lord/ sorc lord, exalted sorcs kit, a few others too I think. They don't any more, that bit is true.


The exalted sorces look pretty monopose to me (I don't own them, but looking at the models and sprues they don't look like they have much in the way of posing options).

I think you'll get more in the way of multipose marine varieties simply because the way the armour works makes it easier to allow for some slight angle changes on the arms and whatnot, but in general I don't recall a large number of multipose characters. There was that WHFB Orc Warboss that was multipose... and looked terrible.
   
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In what fething world is an $85 battlewagon suddenly worth $100? What a joke of a company. No additions, nothing new, just randomly $15 more.


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Like at least add some sort of upgrade sprue with bits and extra weapons to slap on.

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Maybe they added trace amounts of pewter to their plastic recipe?

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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
In what fething world is an $85 battlewagon suddenly worth $100? What a joke of a company. No additions, nothing new, just randomly $15 more.

Like at least add some sort of upgrade sprue with bits and extra weapons to slap on.
Umm... they did.

The Deff Rolla sprue is now in the box.

Of course that doesn't explain the massive increase in price (as mentioned on the last page, it's 25% more expensive than the old combined Battlewagon + Upgrade Sprue cost for literally nothing extra), but they did add something.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The exalted sorces look pretty monopose to me...
Really? We've reached that level of monopose apologetics that now kits with a wealth of options are also "pretty monopose"?



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Yeah, they look monopose with a couple of build options, not multipose. Maybe I’m wrong as I said I don’t own them, I just looked at the sprues and looked at community pics of people who have built them and they don’t look to have much choice in posing. There’s the walking dude, the dude on a disk and the dude with his legs apart on floating swirly stuff.

The weapons can be swapped out, yes, but unless I’m missing something they look “pretty monopose”.
   
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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
In what fething world is an $85 battlewagon suddenly worth $100? What a joke of a company. No additions, nothing new, just randomly $15 more.


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Like at least add some sort of upgrade sprue with bits and extra weapons to slap on.


I had to giggle when I looked at the price of the Stormraven in the GW store...

$106.00. Seriously, let's increase the cost of a kit that practically no one is buying anyway.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
In what fething world is an $85 battlewagon suddenly worth $100? What a joke of a company. No additions, nothing new, just randomly $15 more.

Like at least add some sort of upgrade sprue with bits and extra weapons to slap on.
Umm... they did.

The Deff Rolla sprue is now in the box.

Of course that doesn't explain the massive increase in price (as mentioned on the last page, it's 25% more expensive than the old combined Battlewagon + Upgrade Sprue cost for literally nothing extra), but they did add something.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The exalted sorces look pretty monopose to me...
Really? We've reached that level of monopose apologetics that now kits with a wealth of options are also "pretty monopose"?





I honestly forgot that was even separate. Why was it even in the first place?


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 bullyboy wrote:
 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
In what fething world is an $85 battlewagon suddenly worth $100? What a joke of a company. No additions, nothing new, just randomly $15 more.


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Like at least add some sort of upgrade sprue with bits and extra weapons to slap on.


I had to giggle when I looked at the price of the Stormraven in the GW store...

$106.00. Seriously, let's increase the cost of a kit that practically no one is buying anyway.


Yeah thats insane, but we could throw out 300 examples of this if we really got into it.....ahem.....LAND RAIDER

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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
In what fething world is an $85 battlewagon suddenly worth $100? What a joke of a company. No additions, nothing new, just randomly $15 more.

Like at least add some sort of upgrade sprue with bits and extra weapons to slap on.
Umm... they did.

The Deff Rolla sprue is now in the box.

Of course that doesn't explain the massive increase in price (as mentioned on the last page, it's 25% more expensive than the old combined Battlewagon + Upgrade Sprue cost for literally nothing extra), but they did add something.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The exalted sorces look pretty monopose to me...
Really? We've reached that level of monopose apologetics that now kits with a wealth of options are also "pretty monopose"?





I honestly forgot that was even separate. Why was it even in the first place?


I'd be fine if they threw an extra sprue or two in with the Stompa and bumped the price like they did with the baneblade.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
In what fething world is an $85 battlewagon suddenly worth $100? What a joke of a company. No additions, nothing new, just randomly $15 more.

Like at least add some sort of upgrade sprue with bits and extra weapons to slap on.
Umm... they did.

The Deff Rolla sprue is now in the box.

Of course that doesn't explain the massive increase in price (as mentioned on the last page, it's 25% more expensive than the old combined Battlewagon + Upgrade Sprue cost for literally nothing extra), but they did add something.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The exalted sorces look pretty monopose to me...
Really? We've reached that level of monopose apologetics that now kits with a wealth of options are also "pretty monopose"?





Weapon options!=multipose.

MonoPOSE vs multiPOSE.

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So in other words, yes, we really have reached the point of denying reality where we're going to call this "monopose", as if it the same as this.

I guess my GW Mono-Pose Stages of Acceptance list is no longer applicable as people have gone right point number 6 and in fact created a whole new point:

7. There never were any multi-pose minis. It was all a dream.

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yukishiro1 wrote:
GW used to make multipose character models now and then - chaos termie lord/ sorc lord, exalted sorcs kit, a few others too I think. They don't any more, that bit is true.


They do a lot of dual-pose characters though, like the nob on smasha squig, Thrakka or Mortarion. I feel like unless a character has some very extensive wargear (a SAG for example), this should be the minimum for something as central as a warboss.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So in other words, yes, we really have reached the point of denying reality where we're going to call this "monopose", as if it the same as this.

I guess my GW Mono-Pose Stages of Acceptance list is no longer applicable as people have gone right point number 6 and in fact created a whole new point:

7. There never were any multi-pose minis. It was all a dream.


Or maybe you should be using a more differentiated vocabulary instead of calling every lack of customization you find to your disliking "mono-pose".

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What they are saying with the Exalted sorcerer is that you cannot "repose" the bits, they go in an specific way.


Of course for me thats a distinction without a difference. Being able to rotate hips or arms with nearly total freedom in how they are attached to the body was good but ends up in a worse result than just having a ton of bitz designed to give you a ton of actual, interesting poses that allow you to mix and match to actually make your own. Both are multipose and for me the second is the best of both worlds, customization and variety of poses and options with the interesting posing of monopose.

If anybody says that the Exalted Sorcerer kit is worse than the Chaos Terminator Lord or the old Captain Marine kit , they are just bananas.

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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 bullyboy wrote:
 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
In what fething world is an $85 battlewagon suddenly worth $100? What a joke of a company. No additions, nothing new, just randomly $15 more.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Like at least add some sort of upgrade sprue with bits and extra weapons to slap on.


I had to giggle when I looked at the price of the Stormraven in the GW store...

$106.00. Seriously, let's increase the cost of a kit that practically no one is buying anyway.

The other day I found a Stormraven I bought about seven-eight years or so ago. Still had the label on for £40 RRP. Got curious how much it is now.

£65!!!

"B-but inflation" my arse.

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For God's sake, the Megaboss doesn't even have an alternate head or a different weapon. Even some bloody Primaris kits have that

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Has the mega armour warboss the other equipment options still allowed though in the codex?

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Not Online!!! wrote:
Has the mega armour warboss the other equipment options still allowed though in the codex?
Rules follow models. The Warboss in Mega-Armour has no options on his Data Sheet.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Has the mega armour warboss the other equipment options still allowed though in the codex?
Rules follow models. The Warboss in Mega-Armour has no options on his Data Sheet.


Not always, see Drukhari Succubus who can be equipped with weapons that were never included in her monopose kit and were even absent in the previous codexes. But the general trend is no model/bitz no rule, indeed.

Anyway to proxy the old Ghaz as it is as the new warboss in megarmour in no big deal, his klaw is a huge one and not a regular power klaw. It can definitely count as a 'uge choppa. Real "issue" is the base size as the new model is on 50mm and old ghaz has a 40mm. But for a character with a powerful aura a slighter smaller base is certainly more like a downside than an improvement, and gamewise a single model on 40mm instead of 50mm really doesn't make any difference. I've played this "count as" a few times already and no one complained so far.


 
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So in other words, yes, we really have reached the point of denying reality where we're going to call this "monopose", as if it the same as this.

So you're saying your criteria for multipose is that you have a couple of weapon options, and not actual options to pose?

Again, I don't own those models, but when I looked at the sprues, there didn't look to be any posing options, and when I googled photos of community built ones, they all look the same as the ones on the GW site (unless they were kitbashed) which seems to confirm my suspicions that you don't have much in the way of posing options.

They're nice looking models, but they don't appear to be anything more than monopose with a couple of weapon options.

You need to get your terminology straight I think, multipose and monopose with options are two different things.

Monopose with options I'm quite happy with (Necromunda Goliath models are the obvious example).

7. There never were any multi-pose minis. It was all a dream.
We're talking specifically about characters in this instance, where multipose was never as big of a thing nor as desirable as it was for regular troops. I can think of examples (WHFB Orc Warboss was one I mentioned) but from my memory we didn't hit a critical mass where multipose characters were commonplace. Maybe I'm just misremembering, as I've faded in and out of interest with GW over the years. People who have consistently remained obsessed with GW over the decades might remember more accurately.

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 Arbitrator wrote:
The other day I found a Stormraven I bought about seven-eight years or so ago. Still had the label on for £40 RRP. Got curious how much it is now.

£65!!!

"B-but inflation" my arse.



I used to feel bad for buying two extra battlewagons for 7th's formation, but it seems like I've made a long-term investment. They might be the next bitcoins!

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So the Squig Riders are 45 euro for 4 plus a little squig buddy? Pricey enough. Anyone know what price the big squiggoth will be, or when it will be released? I've been waiting for decades for GW to release a Squig Rider model for 40K to replace the old Boar Boyz so I will likely get them anyway.

   
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 Da Boss wrote:
So the Squig Riders are 45 euro for 4 plus a little squig buddy? Pricey enough. Anyone know what price the big squiggoth will be, or when it will be released? I've been waiting for decades for GW to release a Squig Rider model for 40K to replace the old Boar Boyz so I will likely get them anyway.

Do you mean the character kit? We haven't seen a price yet on him...I'd hazard a guess at around the $40(Lord-Aquilor for Stormcasts)-$55(Lord-Regent for Lumineth Realmlords) USD mark though. Lean towards the higher end since it builds a generic or a named character.

Sidenote:
The Squig Riders are actually a bit larger than they appear to be. I'm slowly working my way through a Beastsnagga box as a commission project and they are on the same size base(75x42mm) as the Stormcast Vanguard-Palladors. They ain't weedy gits!

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Snaggas Boyz are around 10 pounds more expensive than regular ones. So we better hope the new regular Boyz are gonna remain box-exclusive for a long time.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Da Boss wrote:
So the Squig Riders are 45 euro for 4 plus a little squig buddy? Pricey enough. Anyone know what price the big squiggoth will be, or when it will be released? I've been waiting for decades for GW to release a Squig Rider model for 40K to replace the old Boar Boyz so I will likely get them anyway.

Do you mean the character kit? We haven't seen a price yet on him...I'd hazard a guess at around the $40(Lord-Aquilor for Stormcasts)-$55(Lord-Regent for Lumineth Realmlords) USD mark though. Lean towards the higher end since it builds a generic or a named character.

Sidenote:
The Squig Riders are actually a bit larger than they appear to be. I'm slowly working my way through a Beastsnagga box as a commission project and they are on the same size base(75x42mm) as the Stormcast Vanguard-Palladors. They ain't weedy gits!


Thanks. I just remembered seeing a big squig kit in the box and was wondering when it would come out. Good to know the Squig Bois are beefy. I'm looking forward to painting them.

   
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Gathering the Informations.

Oh! You mean this guy?

Spoiler:


He is part of the actual box for the Squighog Boyz. He's a FA character choice that is 2 of them "free" for the FOC if you have Squighog Boyz in your army. It's a Nob on Smasha Squig.

Spoiler:

This is the Great White Squig ridden by Mozrog Skragbad. He's an HQ choice--it also builds a Beastboss on Squigosaur.

We have no release date on this one just yet. He's what I'm thinking will be $55.
   
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I found it, it's called a Kill Rig. Sorry, I was being a bit vague!

   
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Gathering the Informations.

Gotcha! Yeah, no clue on that one then. Probably $100?

It builds a Hunta Rig or a Killa Rig, and also has parts to build an HQ choice.
   
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Honestly I I wouldn't be surprised if the Killrig would end up being 75£/125 USD... But knowing modern GW, it will probably end up as something like 76.25£

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While I'm glad AoS will finally have pre-orders next week, I find it weir how they also paused Ork releases.

They referenced that Orktober came earlier this year. Would be a kick in the nuts if they actually waited until october to release the rest of ork stuff.
   
 
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