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2009/11/19 13:49:11
Subject: Beasts of Chaos thread...
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Alpharius wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:
So the ultimate lineup is:
- Daemons of Chaos
- Warriors of Chaos
- Beastmen (of Chaos)
- Monster (of Chaos)
Yes?
Mortals of Chaos is already pretty much Monsters of Chaos, isn't it?
(And really, Razorgor?)
It's half Monsters of Chaos, half Warriors of Chaos.
(Pyrovore!)
I had considered picking up a Beasts of Chaos (Sorry, Beastmen) army for a little while now. That impulse has thankfully passed with these rumours.
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Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I too can prove pretty much any assertion I please if I don't count all the evidence that contradicts it.
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2009/11/19 14:33:59
Subject: Beasts of Chaos thread...
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These kind of threads always descend into wishlists/GW bashing after page 2
You can say that again. Always is normally a pretty extreme term, but in this case I think it applies. These kind of threads do always descend into wishlists and GW bashing.
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2009/12/01 17:01:44
Subject: Re:Beasts of Chaos thread...
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So besides plastic minotaurs, more expensive gors/ungors, seperate beast lore, ranking 5 wide, doombull with mutations similar to vamp powers and a gorgon, does anyone have any other word on the book or are folks just posting to increase the size of the thread?
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2009/12/01 19:36:35
Subject: Re:Beasts of Chaos thread...
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Mattbranb wrote:So besides plastic minotaurs, more expensive gors/ungors, seperate beast lore, ranking 5 wide, doombull with mutations similar to vamp powers and a gorgon, does anyone have any other word on the book?
Yes. Anyone thinking about fielding Beast Herds come February and not interested in a 67% price increase should probably consider picking up a few boxes sooner than later, given the certainty that GW will eventually pull the old boxes in anticipation of the new.
Mattbranb wrote:Or are folks just posting to increase the size of the thread?
That and their own post counts.
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2009/12/14 20:33:31
Subject: Beasts of Chaos thread...
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Im hoping that the beasts of chaos will look good because I am not too keen on the current Beasts of Chaos. Also apparently the New gamesday model was supposed to be a beasts of chaos model but it look too weedy for beasts of chaos so they made it the new Gamesday model???
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2009/12/15 09:02:43
Subject: Re:Beasts of Chaos thread...
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The Gor and Ungor models are prety much identical to the current ones, perhaps some slight alterations to the legs and stance I think.
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2009/12/15 09:09:51
Subject: Re:Beasts of Chaos thread...
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reds8n wrote: The Gor and Ungor models are prety much identical to the current ones, perhaps some slight alterations to the legs and stance I think.
Is it a safe bet they'll finally get a battalion? thus i should wait and not purchase the gor / ungor ?
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2009/12/15 14:42:40
Subject: Beasts of Chaos thread...
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Is it a safe bet they'll finally get a battalion? thus i should wait and not purchase the gor / ungor ?
That's a tough call. The Battalion will have a price break on it over buying what's in it separately, but the price of what's in it will be higher than the models are currently which will eat into your savings just a little. This happened with the Imperial Guard last spring. The troop boxes went from $35 for 20 to $22 for 10 models. If you waited to buy the Battleforce it was cheaper than buying what's in it separately whether or not you snatched up an old box of troops or waited for the Battalion, but the savings were slightly eroded if you compared them to the older troop boxes rather than the new ones. Still, if you really want what's in a Battalion, it's probably a better buy. If you need a lot of troops, you could buy a few current troop boxes and then still buy a Battalion when it's released and have a few more troops plus the newer models that will probably be in it.
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2009/12/15 14:47:36
Subject: Re:Beasts of Chaos thread...
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The Battalion will consist of 20 Gor, 10 Ungor, and 10 Bestigor, and costs £55. 
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"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/12/15 14:48:13
Subject: Re:Beasts of Chaos thread...
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How is that a good deal?
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2009/12/15 15:33:05
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reds8n wrote:The Battalion will consist of 20 Gor, 10 Ungor, and 10 Bestigor, and costs £55.
What?!? Really?
Empchild wrote:How is that a good deal?
No kidding!
All signs so far point towards Beastmen getting the "We don't really care/Aren't Really Trying Hard" treatment this time around...
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2009/12/15 15:37:21
Subject: Re:Beasts of Chaos thread...
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What?!? Really?
Yes.
..I guess thing to remember is that the Gors and Ungors will normally be in boxes of 10 @ £15 whilst Bestigors will be joining he Empire in regards to having "gold" units £/$ wise.
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"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/12/15 20:48:33
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Empchild wrote:How is that a good deal?
Because it forces you to rationally evaluate the cheapest means of obtaining more Gors/Ungors--which of course is to start ordering Beast Herd Boxes this very moment.
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2009/12/16 03:13:18
Subject: Re:Beasts of Chaos thread...
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bigchris1313 wrote:Empchild wrote:How is that a good deal?
Because it forces you to rationally evaluate the cheapest means of obtaining more Gors/Ungors--which of course is to start ordering Beast Herd Boxes this very moment.
Yes , thats what i was thinking already ( its good to plan ahead ! )
Unless Bestigor sculpt is like drooling amazingly , im fine with attaching gor head onto chaos warrior body ><
reds8n wrote:What?!? Really?
Yes.
..I guess thing to remember is that the Gors and Ungors will normally be in boxes of 10 @ £15 whilst Bestigors will be joining he Empire in regards to having "gold" units £/$ wise.
Ew... GW is dirty if they really do that...
ATM , a box of gor/ungor costs £17.60 for 12 gor and 8 ungor , that means its like Double the price???
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2009/12/16 09:33:11
Subject: Re:Beasts of Chaos thread...
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Pretty much. I'd stock up now if you can...
..careful how you base the UNgors though..
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2009/12/17 01:45:57
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reds8n wrote:Pretty much. I'd stock up now if you can...
.. careful how you base the UNgors though..
Moar details / explanation please :'o i dont play Beast of Chaos .
Im either in denial or im horribly confused ,
ok they justify skaven storm vermin price compared to metal equivalent.
Why or how are gor / ungor price going up?
So far the other armies with "special units of 10"
£16.65 Vampire Counts Grave Guard
£16.65 Black Orcs
£16.65 Lizardmen Temple Guard
£24.45 Empire Greatswords
£11.75 Dark Elf Black Ark Corsairs
Is there another price hike comming? I cant see a core choice like Gor / Ungors
been more expensive than the Dark Elf Corsairs , and at £15!!! ( Not that i dont believe you but
this sounds rediculous even for GW standards , without a price *adjustment )
Yes im very concerned now ...
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2009/12/17 02:05:11
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LunaHound wrote:reds8n wrote:Pretty much. I'd stock up now if you can...
.. careful how you base the UNgors though..
Moar details / explanation please :'o i dont play Beast of Chaos .
Rumor has it that Ungors are going to be on 20mm bases now. Last edition, they were on 25mm, like their big brother Gors were.
I think!
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2009/12/17 07:31:39
Subject: Beasts of Chaos thread...
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Another of GW's test to see how much they can rip us off...
20 Gor
10 Ungor
10 Bestigor,
Add 3 minotaur...
for costs of £55 would be fair -_-
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2009/12/17 07:44:47
Subject: Beasts of Chaos thread...
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Erm no.
Moving Ungors to a standard 20mm base makes sense. 25mm bases are for "larger than standard" infantry models, like Chaos Warriors or Orcs.
Has nothing whatsoever to do with ripping you off. It's standardization.
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2009/12/17 10:15:32
Subject: Beasts of Chaos thread...
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Kanluwen wrote:Erm no.
Moving Ungors to a standard 20mm base makes sense. 25mm bases are for "larger than standard" infantry models, like Chaos Warriors or Orcs.
Has nothing whatsoever to do with ripping you off. It's standardization.
Sigh... i can care less about the base size , see the above posts for price change.
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reds8n wrote:What?!? Really?
Yes.
..I guess thing to remember is that the Gors and Ungors will normally be in boxes of 10 @ £15 whilst Bestigors will be joining he Empire in regards to having "gold" units £/$ wise.
Ew... GW is dirty if they really do that...
ATM , a box of gor/ungor costs £17.60 for 12 gor and 8 ungor , that means its like Double the price???
reds8n wrote:Pretty much. I'd stock up now if you can...
..careful how you base the UNgors though..
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2009/12/17 10:19:16
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Kanluwen wrote:Erm no.
Moving Ungors to a standard 20mm base makes sense. 25mm bases are for "larger than standard" infantry models, like Chaos Warriors or Orcs.
Has nothing whatsoever to do with ripping you off. It's standardization.
Except that it invalidates currently owned/assembled/painted minis. For our convenience!
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2009/12/17 22:19:55
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JOHIRA wrote:Kanluwen wrote:Erm no.
Moving Ungors to a standard 20mm base makes sense. 25mm bases are for "larger than standard" infantry models, like Chaos Warriors or Orcs.
Has nothing whatsoever to do with ripping you off. It's standardization.
Except that it invalidates currently owned/assembled/painted minis. For our convenience!
Nothing a sharp blade and a steady hand can't fix.
I'd prefer not to have to switch 20 bases, but it's certainly not the end of the world--particularly for me, as I've yet to even prime my constructed Ungors.
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2009/12/18 09:33:03
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Hacking Shang Jí
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bigchris1313 wrote:Nothing a sharp blade and a steady hand can't fix.
Actually, with the way I've based mine, I suspect it will be.
It's not the end of the world, no, but it's one more nail in the coffin of Warhammer Armies: Baby's First Evil Petting Zoo. I started reading these rumours looking forward to finally giving GW money after years of staying away, but the steady stream of signs that they just didn't think the army was worth putting effort into have disappointed me to say the least. Oh well, I guess I'll find some software or booze to buy instead.
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2009/12/18 18:54:32
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Bugger all that effort modelling scenic 25mm bases for my Ungor wasted! As for the models for characters I'll be breaking out my old Rackham/Avatars of War stuff and looking around at other manufacturers. Like I did for my Chariots.......Vendel Grendel and the rest may well be getting big orders from me. If the Minotaurs are an Ogre priced box I'll get some if not ah well.
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2009/12/26 12:41:40
Subject: Re:Beasts of Chaos thread...
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Updated with latest piccies, big shout out to the ever reliable Mr. Hastings from Warseer.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/12/26 12:47:27
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Is that a rank and file model or a new Doombull?
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"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
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2009/12/26 12:51:43
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Metal doombull.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/12/26 13:06:52
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Metal!? Why? Why must they make irt harder to assemble than my old Isengard Troll? WHY?!?!?
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2009/12/26 13:08:39
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The regular minotaurs are plastic though, I think they should have a horn rather than a drum for thier instrument but there you go.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/12/26 13:09:42
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Oh, *cough*, OK then...
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