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I am impressed. Shame he's not plastic nor has options for the heads or weapons like the old minos had years ago or like we are seeing from Avatars of War minis, but overall, it's a nice sculpt.
reds8n wrote:The regular minotaurs are plastic though, I think they should have a horn rather than a drum for thier instrument but there you go.
That'd be like a human unit having a flute made of thighbone!
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He seems to have an issue with his feet. Rather than having hooves, or just feet, he has feet that end in inward curving horns rather than toes. Whether you like the in-between option or not, thats what he seems to have.
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I am not really into minotaurs because I don't know how to make them fit with my current army concept (though I may find a way), but he looks decent enough. A vast improvement on the current minos. The enormous tusks are a bit silly (he can't even bite you with them because they appear to extend further than his jaw is able to open), but I suppose that's nothing a dremmel tool can't solve. And really, every GW leader by rule has to have something stupidly OTT about them (enormous hat, giant flaming pot on the backpack, sword of cartographic proportions, etc). If there is nothing in the new Beastmen range sillier than this (knock wood), I suppose we'll be doing pretty good.
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JOHIRA wrote:I am not really into minotaurs because I don't know how to make them fit with my current army concept (though I may find a way), but he looks decent enough. A vast improvement on the current minos. The enormous tusks are a bit silly (he can't even bite you with them because they appear to extend further than his jaw is able to open), but I suppose that's nothing a dremmel tool can't solve. And really, every GW leader by rule has to have something stupidly OTT about them (enormous hat, giant flaming pot on the backpack, sword of cartographic proportions, etc). If there is nothing in the new Beastmen range sillier than this (knock wood), I suppose we'll be doing pretty good.
Im going to buy them and use them in Warriors of Chaos army as chaos troll or ogres
( that should work right? )
LunaHound wrote:
Im going to buy them and use them in Warriors of Chaos army as chaos troll or ogres
( that should work right? )
Yep, sounds very suitable and I've seen it done before.
Super , i missed the previous edition where Chaos is mixed of Daemons and Beastmen.
I guess i can start beastman army for sure , and have them share some units with Warriors of Chaos
( chaos hounds i assume is also in beast codex , so minos are must have )
As long as you're stating to your opponent what is which, who would care?
They have the same base size, are about as tall etc.
As an older player who remembers the huge mixed armies of the first Realm of Chaos books, it's far more in the ancient background to have minotaurs for Chaos than any ogres or trolls since both of them are 'recruited' into chaos but minotaurs are 'created' by chaos.
I just wish they'd make Chaos armies with daemons, warriors and beasts in the same armies but return to the old days of God rivalry (Slaanesh vs Khorne, Nuggy against Tzeentch).
MeanGreenStompa wrote:I just wish they'd make Chaos armies with daemons, warriors and beasts in the same armies but return to the old days of God rivalry (Slaanesh vs Khorne, Nuggy against Tzeentch).
Chaos seriously doesnt look chaotic without the mix of daemons and beast.
They look like VIKINGS atm... ( warriors of chaos )
But BOO GW they'll never combine the armies again because thats less profit -_-
MeanGreenStompa wrote:I just wish they'd make Chaos armies with daemons, warriors and beasts in the same armies but return to the old days of God rivalry (Slaanesh vs Khorne, Nuggy against Tzeentch).
Chaos seriously doesnt look chaotic without the mix of daemons and beast.
They look like VIKINGS atm... ( warriors of chaos )
But BOO GW they'll never combine the armies again because thats less profit -_-
I just find it odd that chaos would be so nicely 'ordered' into the three specifics. The northern wastes was always supposed to be teeming with beastmen. The forests of the old world would have human cultists and communities that had fallen to chaos. And lastly daemons, they tried daemon armies before and wrote it off as a bad idea then they brought them back (and make them so overpowered as to be comical).
I may use beasts as marauders in my 2010 WoC army. I do like that Avatars of War beastman hero and wouldn't mind the excuse to use him.
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:
I may use beasts as marauders in my 2010 WoC army. I do like that Avatars of War beastman hero and wouldn't mind the excuse to use him.
http://arena-deathmatch.com/images/aow11.jpg
when i first read that i was confused , i thought you were talking about the movie avatar , then a "war beastman" till i click the link too sleepy i think...
Just out of curiosity , dont you ever feel that a mini ( as beautiful as they are ) that is none GW and cannot be used in GW tournament
sort of depletes in value? ( So for example , say my army list needs a beastman hero , and i bought the avatar of war . But i also want to play in a tournament
or in a GW store , thus i must rebuy a GW version )
reds8n wrote:The regular minotaurs are plastic though, I think they should have a horn rather than a drum for thier instrument but there you go.
That'd be like a human unit having a flute made of thighbone!
All the more reason for the Beasts of Chaos to have one, then.
Indeed. And they get a banner in the box too.
.. hmm.. box of three... with those options....
..hmm... might be good news for Ogres as well then if we think what this might tell us then eh ?
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Railguns wrote:He seems to have an issue with his feet. Rather than having hooves, or just feet, he has feet that end in inward curving horns rather than toes. Whether you like the in-between option or not, thats what he seems to have.
What I thought too. Eff that noise
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If not this week then soon we should see the first few bits and bobs arrive in stores, including posters which show the gors, ungors, Minotaurs, Bestigors and at least one of the special characters. Note how the razorgor isn't on the poster apparently. There is a reason for that.
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reds8n wrote:If not this week then soon we should see the first few bits and bobs arrive in stores, including posters which show the gors, ungors, Minotaurs, Bestigors and at least one of the special characters. Note how the razorgor isn't on the poster apparently. There is a reason for that.
If you have connections with GW , tell them that i demand them to add 2-3 minotaur into the battalion!
im not going to accept the 3 units of gor they are offering!
It does strike me as odd that there aren't any minotaurs in the box set.
That said perhaps we should wait until people have seen the plastic minotaurs before we get too po'ed. Personally...I wasn't that impressed. Reminded me very much of the plastic rat ogres from (the admittedly little) that I've seen so far.... not, you know, pull your own eyes out terrible, and a move to plastic (pricing issues aside anyway) is always a good thing in my book, if only for the conversion opportunities it opens up, but not as good as you'd have hoped. I'm still of the opinion that the best Minotaur GW did was the Bloodbowl one back in... 2nd edition time.
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reds8n wrote: It does strike me as odd that there aren't any minotaurs in the box set.
That said perhaps we should wait until people have seen the plastic minotaurs before we get too po'ed. Personally...I wasn't that impressed. Reminded me very much of the plastic rat ogres from (the admittedly little) that I've seen so far.... not, you know, pull your own eyes out terrible, and a move to plastic (pricing issues aside anyway) is always a good thing in my book, if only for the conversion opportunities it opens up, but not as good as you'd have hoped. I'm still of the opinion that the best Minotaur GW did was the Bloodbowl one back in... 2nd edition time.
Is is strange how GW can miss so often on many monsters/large creatures.
To date, the best Minotaurs are from Rackham and Avatars of War...
I got a hold of the Minotaur plastics this morning and the only way I can desribe them is that a blind man had this described to him...
Told to add a bull head (with similar muscular proportions) and then he sculpted it with another layer of muscles on top.
The legs especially are vomit worthy. Some hoof/claw, some feet, all very confusing. With all the layers of muscle on the legs they look akin to this:
In saying that the upper body (and weapons, and a couple of heads) is at least able to be looked at, the rest of the model should have been thrown in the bin and restarted. IMHO worse than the current rat ogres. :(
Also I got pics of the new bestigors.
All appear to have EXACTLY the same horn set sprouting out of their helmets, I didn't get a good look to see if the faces were different. All in same, or very similar pose.
Ungor can have: Spears and shield, HW & shield.... bows! (may have been short bows). They are also able to skirmish. 20mm bases For The Loss!!!
Gors are ranked!!! So no more problems with ranking up 4 wide. LOL
The old shaman with the staff is still there.
2 new beastmen characters were in the pics, 25mm bases, no other details.
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:Best minotaur GW made was the minotaur lord with the skull head and the dragon claw mutation.
I don't remember that one! Any chance of a link or a pic?
The description may be a little faulty. I have a lead GW Minotaur Lord from about 1989 with a "dragon claw" mutation and a large axe in the other hand, but the head is not a skull, it's a fierce bull head as would be expected for a Minotaur. It is a cool model.
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LunaHound wrote:Can we see the plastic minos Gonads?
No, I didn't have my camera with me.
However the promo poster will be out in the next week/fortnight at all GW stores and likely independent stockists which shows (most) of the new models/options.
It will have:
New plastic minotaurs left hand side. Look at their legs and try not to vomit.
Chaos hounds (current set) at front
New bestigors
New ungor (20mm bases) multiple units with spears and 1 unit has hand weapons all ranked. From what I gather skirmish is an upgrade.
New gors- all ranked
Chaos giant up the back
3 characters
Disn't see the new metal doombull but he may have been hiding up the back.
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