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we all know the emperor has made the odd dubious decision through the times, perhaps this was one mistake that did reveal a vunerability or something along those lines...

I just finished reading Legion and one line popped out to me that i think reflects upon what the missing legion(s) did to fall out of favor.

*Spoilerish* (seeing how it doesnt really give anything away in the book itself)


Now, seeing how the book takes place prior to the heresy....who else could that be referring to?

I think that reference is pointing towards Magnus and the Thousand Sons

I agree with bash.

Lycaeus Wrex wrote:I'm guessing that one of them is the Legion of the Damned. The other? No idea.

L. Wrex

I was thinking this, and the red scorpions. Yet I have absolutely no knowledge of them, soo....Maybe it's just a "blank" so people can make their own.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Lycaeus Wrex wrote:I'm guessing that one of them is the Legion of the Damned. The other? No idea.

L. Wrex

I was thinking this, and the red scorpions. Yet I have absolutely no knowledge of them, soo....Maybe it's just a "blank" so people can make their own.

The Legion of the Damned is the remnants of the Fire Hawks chapter that was lost in the warp.
The red scorpions are a standard (though fairly secretive) chapter of unknown geneseed origin, created at least 5000 years before present day 40k.

LotD again, eh?

This thread has officially gone full circle.

I don't know if this has been brought up, but could it be possible that the Lost Legions could be fighting an extra galactic threat like the main Hive Fleets? We know that Tyranids produce a large imprint in the warp, and if the Emperor knew what was coming he could have sent two full legions out to try and stop them.

That's just my two cents.

I think almost all possibilities, including the LotD on about 50 occasions in this thread alone, have been covered..

Maybe they exist in the warp, or the webway.....Or maybe the emprah absorbed them to become moar powerful....I have no idea.

And sorry for stirring up LoTD talk. I jut read the lexi page. Their pretty cool, I guess. I want the models now.

I was reading the SM codex last night and happened to see on the map that the planet "Prism" was "record deleted" - a pointed jab at the Rainbow Warriors.

Of course the two lost legions will remain unknown for fluff reasons, but I like to think the RW were one of them.

I think that Dorn's consideration of contacting the lost legions points directly to the fact that they are operating within the reach of the Imperium and not in a far-flung new human empire, but that the cost (whatever that may be) of contacting them would outweigh the benefit. I like the idea of an expeditionary force being sent away by the emprah as a preventative measure against the coming civil war, but 40k's grimdark isn't amenable to a ray of light, just false hope. :(

Go along with the blank theory the idea of the Primarchs (perhaps only one of them) had the Pariah-Gene? If so had they gone rogue? Or disappeared/exiled as the legion(s) had possessed the pariah-gene? Perhaps if they had allied with the C'tan/Necrons it would have been to dangerous to call upon their aid?

OR

They were assigned to protecting the Void Dragon from anyone getting in, or it getting out from within the Noctis Labyrinth. With the risk of calling on the (very close to Terra) Legions a risk of awakening the Void Dragon or even causing transgression towards the Adeptus Mechanicus (who may or may not know about the garrison) Which in itself could cause them to side with Horus? Both risks to the Imperium would outweigh the benefits of the two legions. (I like this one the most)

The Emperor sent them through space and time into the future to

A. stop a great catastrophe

or sent them into the past to prevent a great plot to destroy the Emperor, John Connor style.

Karmakaze?

Yeah thats my name...

Why may I ask?

Karmakaze wrote:Yeah thats my name...

Why may I ask?

Seems to imply you suicide-kill people with your cosmic balance.....

LOL.

Also, does anyone have a half decent looking "profile" for the rainbow marines?

Samus_aran115 wrote:LOL.

Also, does anyone have a half decent looking "profile" for the rainbow marines?

Define "profile". And I do believe it is the Rainbow Warriors, not the rainbow marines.

They were women but in the grim dark misandrist future . . .

Gavin Thorne wrote:I think that Dorn's consideration of contacting the lost legions

Dorn considered contacting the lost legions?
What is this from?

ph34r wrote:

Gavin Thorne wrote:I think that Dorn's consideration of contacting the lost legions

Dorn considered contacting the lost legions?
What is this from?

In the HH series. Dorn talks to the Sigillite about contacting the other legions, but he is rebuked. I forget which novel though, one of the mid ones...

He doesn't say anything about contacting them, mearly that he wishes he had more legions?

Just because I say I want to kill someone doesn't mean I'm going to hire someone to do it?

If you really wanted to grasp at straws i always consitered the lost legions to have been lost in the unification wars and not in the great crusade. Primarchs aside unification wars just had the emperor in command so if they did anything he could make them dissapear without dealing with primarch knowledge.

Unification was pre-Primarch creation. The legions lost happened after Unification but apparently before the Great Crusade.

It is quite possible that it was determined the Primarchs were destroyed in the Primarch-napping incident, and the Emperor chose not to create a Legion without a Primarch.

Well, this his been established already in the thread, but...

All 20 Primarchs were reunited with the Emperor and their legion. Their were 20 statues of the Primarchs at one point on Terra.

So the lost dudes WERE around at some point in the Great Crusade, but are gone for good now.


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Also, the discussion with Dorn and the Sigillite are in Mechanicum. Its the OPs post...

I think that the lost legions probably came across the eldar or some race that was not a threat, but a potential allie.

refusing orders to destory them would make them enemies BUT if they kept moving forward trying to pull planets into the imperial fold (some with aliens/mutiants on them)

witch would make them not join horus but still be traitors before the HH. so the emporer would order shot on sight and delete all information about them.

or they had some soet of geen-seed/pyskic mutation that would make them seem like a failure to the astarties project and ofends the emporer.

BUT most likely when GW were creating the history of 40k they thought "wouldnt it be cool to leave a few out to creat intrest. A better story/fluff to get people hooked in the misteries that are spacemarines"

The Primarch project was started after the end of the Age of Strife when the Emperor emerged victiorious as the last surviving warlord on Terra.
When the Primarchs were taken by the Chaos Gods the Emperor found it necessary to start building his legions from the remaining geneseed of the Primarchs he had left in his laboratory.

All 20 legions were created and went out to fight the Great Crusade. and all 20 Primarchs were found, but the fate of 2 is uncertain.

I dont know If I got the question rite but if Im rite the two primarchs propoblly died when the Emperor created them beacuse there bodys werent strong inof. Or then when the storm hit Terra they maybe were sent to a burning star or a black hole. Or then they are perfectly fine but are far far away from the Imperium.

I just read the Tales of Heresy and Flight of the Einstien books and I beliieve that the 2 lost Legoins are the Thousand Sons and Death Guard as it makes a comment on that very subject in the books.

If they are the "lost" legions, then who are the eleventh and second, Wynne?
I haven't read the book, but perhaps he was refering to them being "lost" to chaos?

@bob the heretic - No, all the primarchs WERE found and reunited with their legions, but they were gone by the time of the heresy.

Seriously, how many times do we have to answer the same questions on this thread?

Darkvoidof40k wrote:If they are the "lost" legions, then who are the eleventh and second, Wynne?
I haven't read the book, but perhaps he was refering to them being "lost" to chaos?

@bob the heretic - No, all the primarchs WERE found and reunited with their legions, but they were gone by the time of the heresy.

Seriously, how many times do we have to answer the same questions on this thread?

No look there were supposed to be 20 primarcs but 18 were found! If you want to see my explanations about the two primarchs read my last comment.