Better terminators?

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**Lennysmash**

warspawned wrote: As it stands terminators are veteran marines and no more than that - so why should we adjust Toughness, Strength & wounds to their base and not to other Marines? Because of their armour? They get a 2+ 5++ anyway to represent this. I now personally feel that if were true to the background they could reasonably be S&T 4(5) maybe with additional WS and or BS, even possibly a wound - but there's simply no room in the game as it is to make that improvement without suitably escalating other material.

Agreed, as Warspawned says the effects would have to be replicated, consider a marine against a guardsman, marines are supposed to live through almost anything, yet both have only one wound, it has to represented in more than just give marines an extra wound. marine or not if your armour fails then dead is dead for a human, super-duper or not.