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FLUFF ahhhhhh, Fantasy fluff i'm ok with but 40k fluff i fail.
Ur list is fine Formosa, i mean 3 land raiders is ahhhh. Any list you come up with is fluffy but so deadly its untrue.

PS. GW = lies lies lies, FAQ FTW

2 weeks? There's no way I'll have a completely painted Thousand Sons army by then. One squad maybe but not the full army.

Oh well atleast the 2000pt list is easy, it's just my 1750 list plus a Land Raider.

As for fluff.... would "Tzeentch wills it" be enough?

EDIT: Well I think I've written something that'll do. It explains who my commander is and how it came to the Golgotha system:

The Fall of Seini / The Deception of T'ymwythyr

Seini was a Thousand Sons apothecary and like many of his brothers within the legion a psycher. Whilst his powers were of little use on the battlefield they were a great boon to him in his role as an apothecary enabling him to identify injuries and illnesses that those under his care may not have even know they had. Following the escape of the Thousand Sons to The Planet of the Sorcerers Seini like most of his legion found his powers had become far more potent. Using these powers he delighted in watching the changes in the bodies of fellow survivors as they battled to contain the vast powers now contained within themselves. He watched in awe as the flesh change consumed a great many of the legion, noting the differences in each violent mutation. He soon saw the signs of mutation in his own body. Embracing this change he found his psychic potential was greater still, now he had the ability to not only observe to a minute degree but also to change whole anatomies using only the power of his mind.

Following the rubric unleashed by Ahriman Seini found that the changes within his body had ceased. This loss was most grievous to him and he swore to any who would listen that the rubric would not prevent him from attaining whatever changes he desired. Though he did not know it yet deep within the warp his boasts were heard. Whenever the Thousand Sons went to war Seini was at the heart of the action delighting in turning his enemies to mutated hulks or dissolving the chemical bonds that held their bodies together. Such actions pleased his masters and continued to draw the eye of those that lurk in the warp.

As time passed Seini never gave up on his quest to rid himself of the stagnation caused by the rubric. He tried every spell and ritual he could decipher, all failed miserably. Eventually his lust for change overpowered him and he became utterly fixated on finding a way to change his body, his mad experimentations caused much destruction where ever he went. On the Hive world of Sarepta 2 billion Imperial citizens suddenly found themselves melded into one great mass of writhing flesh at the heart of one of the planet's largest hives. Sensing an opportunity to gain further glory in the eyes of it's master a daemon known as T'ymwyther, using all the deceptive arts know to it whispered in to the ears of the mad apothecary that the answers he spoke could be found within an Imperial system known as Golgotha. When Sieni arrived with his retinue T'ymwyther lured him to a dead world in the system and urged him to open his mind to the whispers he heard by unleashing all his power upon the landscape to find their source.

This gave T'ymwyther the opportunity it had worked so hard for, using the vast opening within Seini's mind it drove out what remained of Seini's soul and possessed the apothecary's body. Seini's retinue of lesser sorcerers watched in awe as the body of the former apothecary warped itself into new forms. It grew in height so it towered over them, vast feathered wings sprung forth from the back, the head deformed to become that of a mighty crow. Quickly they fell to there knees in reverence for surely their master had overcome the limitations set in place by the rubric. T'ymwyther smiled inwardly it's deception of these weak minded fools was complete. With this physical form and a blindly loyal army at it's command no one could stop it's rise to glory within the eyes of it's dark master.

Not great I know but it's probably better than anything written by Mat Ward.

Here's my 2k list for the campaign:

T'ymwyther The Deceiver (daemon prince): mark of Tzeentch, wings, warptime, bolt of change 200pts

The Deceiver's Guard (terminators): terminator champion x5, reaper auto cannon, combi melta, 2x power fist, chainfist, icon of tzeentch 300pts

The Occult of Fire (thousand sons): thousand sons x8, aspiring sorcerer, melta bombs, personal icon, doombolt 264pts

The Occult of Change (thousand sons): thousand sons x8, aspiring sorcerer, melta bombs, personal icon, doombolt 264pts

The Occult of Time (thousand sons): thousand sons x8, aspiring sorcerer, melta bombs, personal icon, doombolt 264pts

Chaos Rhino: x3, 3x havoc launcher 150pts

The Bringer of Change (deflier): close combat arm 150pts

The Sorcerous Fire (deflier): close combat arm 150pts

Bastion of Deception (land raider): daemonic possession, havoc launcher 255

total pts: 1997

I'll try to name the rhinos at a later date.

Lol I've already written some fluff, nothing huge but it does all link in with the rest of mine so will do as you suggest and remain quiet.

2000 points I think i'll probably run the 2000 point army I ran against Jonny, think it was basically this

HQ
CCS
4 Plasma
Astropath
Chimera

Troop 1
Vets
Shotguns
3 melta
Chimera

Troop 2
Vets
3 Plasma
Chimera

Troop 3
PCS
Al'rahem
4 melta

3 Inf Squads
3 Melta
3 PW
Commissar
PW

2 Inf Squads
2 melta
2 PW
Commissar
PW

Fast Attack
Devil Dog w MM

Fast Attack 2
Devil Dog w MM

Fast Attack 3
10 Rough Rider
Melta Bomb

Heavy Support 1
Demolisher

Heavy Support 2
Basilisk

Heavy Support 3
LRBT w LC


got about 55 point left over which I think went on upgrades (mainly melta bombs) last time, tempted to drop the rough riders though for five storm troopers with Plasma and 5 raltings

add khan alex

nick your background is really cool

and Mark, you dont need to know the whole history of 40k, just a little blurb to why El'Pedro is at this battlezone..... A wizard did it?

Formosa wrote:add khan alex

Doesn't Khan make rough riders worse than usual?

Formosa wrote:nick your background is really cool

cheers, I might add a bit more to explain where the Defliers came from since they aren't really associated with the Thousand Sons.

Formosa wrote:and Mark, you dont need to know the whole history of 40k, just a little blurb to why El'Pedro is at this battlezone..... A wizard did it?

This is 40k so it's eitehr a psycher did it or Tzeentch did it.

Nick Ellingworth wrote:

Formosa wrote:add khan alex

Doesn't Khan make rough riders worse than usual?

Yep lol

Formosa wrote:nick your background is really cool

cheers, I might add a bit more to explain where the Defliers came from since they aren't really associated with the Thousand Sons.

Mindless machines possesed of a greater will and drive... nah not thousand suns at all

Formosa wrote:and Mark, you dont need to know the whole history of 40k, just a little blurb to why El'Pedro is at this battlezone..... A wizard did it?

This is 40k so it's eitehr a psycher did it or Tzeentch did it.

or both!!

Formosa wrote:Mindless machines possesed of a greater will and drive... nah not thousand suns at all

That's not how I'd describe them, IMO they're daemonically possessed machines of destruction created by the lunatics of the Dark Mechanicus. So no they aren't Thousand Sons at all. Still a few daemonic pacts here and there with a bit of petty revenge on the part of T'ymwyther mixed in for good measure would do.

Ok then heres my fluff.... Pedro is rebuilding the Crimson Fists and is on the Warpath to build up the reputation of the Fists again. He stummbles accross the Golgotha system and joins in the fray to Claim it his!

I got some Black Spray today so i may actually field a black fist army instead of the greyplastic fists on thursday.

Nick Ellingworth wrote:

Formosa wrote:Mindless machines possesed of a greater will and drive... nah not thousand suns at all

That's not how I'd describe them, IMO they're daemonically possessed machines of destruction created by the lunatics of the Dark Mechanicus. So no they aren't Thousand Sons at all. Still a few daemonic pacts here and there with a bit of petty revenge on the part of T'ymwyther mixed in for good measure would do.

Defiler: Empty machine, then powered by a Deamon, possesed

TH: Empty suit, marine put inside, Rubic cast, machine powered by "spirit" or "possesed" by spirit if you will

they seem similer to me.

@ Gorillawizard

Fluff wise just a couple of ideas, ain't some of the Crimson fists away from the system at the time the whole waagh happens, seem to remember something about a desperate attempt to recall them when they realise they are about to be pwned. So your army is a crusade force returning home when a emergency plea for help is received or the ending of the warp storm in Golgotha messes with the navigators route home and they end up in the wrong place. Failing that a Wizard did it

@ Formosa and Nick

why are you trying to understand chaos? worse comes to worse the defilers are on loan from your friendly neighbourhood Warsmith or Patron God


@ Formosa

You know what you can do with Mogul Kamir (khan)

I'll only take him if he is; free, i'm allowed to outflank him regardless of the fact he doesn't have the rule and I have infinite lances which allow furious charge.

I'm a Tzeentch worshipper, I'm meant to attempt to fathom the meaning of chaos and plot your inevitable demise of course.

Wooooop.
Soon i'll be munching my way through the forces of the Imperium and everyone else.

Soon my army will number Over 9000.




Sorry, old meme is old.

Well stop it Nick. My demise is already inevitable, you've seen me play, it doesn't need you consorting with dark gods

What you talking about Lorna? 9000 what?

Ymgarl genestealers.
i want them all!

Lol, well your not allowed

well i am.

ha


why you ask.
because I say so, and i've got a gun.
therefore, i am right.
muhahahahaha.
but yea, anyway
it's gonna be fun. there should be somewhere in the region of 28 ymgarls on the field.

SpankHammer III wrote:Well stop it Nick. My demise is already inevitable, you've seen me play, it doesn't need you consorting with dark gods

You've not seen my Thousand Sons in action have you, it seems that whenever I use them Mephiston magically appears and kills them all. I'll be really happy to be able to use them in this campign and have an opponent which isn't golden nipple emo marines. Who know I might finally get a result that's not a draw.

Or maybe it will just be fun, and we can all laugh at how a termagant took down a couple of terminators.

Well Nick there isn't a single golden nipple in my entire army and as guard I have no psychic defense so you'll be fine.

You really shouldn't worry about my psychic powers, I've got 3 Asp Sorcs with doombolt which is simply an 18" range assault 3 thousand son boltgun and the DP only has bolt of change (24" str 8 AP1 assault 1) and warptime (reroll hit's and wounds in combat)

Chaos psychic powers are frankly rubbish. Although all the LD10 in my army does mean that I should get them off most of the time.

Not near me nick. Shadow in your mind.

feckin jobcentre screwed my payment again... how do lorna and nick put up with this, im going to go get some crappy job, i dont want to deal with these fools anymore

Dude sent your CV to me and i'll see if I can put you up for something here.

ok pm me your E-mail adress
and i will send it now

I deal with it by having a job Formsy.

ive done my fair share of work, a lot more than 99% of the people i know, it boggles my mind the incompitence of people in civy street :(

Consider yourself pm'd.

How rigid are the lists for the campaign going to be? because I've got stuff I'd like to try out (stormies) but if the list are rigid I doubt I'll use them.

I want to propose something. I'd like to keep to the 2000 point lists that were doing but then each put together another 'reserve' list of around 1000 points. Stuff that we can 'try out' or 'sub in'. Such as drop pods, extra squads, commanders, heavy support options, even weapons etc etc ???

I like that idea, wasn't that the original idea? we write list of 5000 points but never play more than 2000.

But 3000 works for me.

I think 2000pts with 1000pts of reserves makes sense.