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Redundancy is not evidence of anything. The rules for Bikes includes noting the increased toughness from a bike does not affect ID, despite this being clearly written in the ID rules.

Turboboost is a move you can normally perform, granted by a special rule
Shunting is a move you can normally perform, granted by a special rule

They are more similar than not.

Embarking is a move (counts as a move means it IS A MOVE in all measures) so can be performed in the scout phase, if you have scout. Same for disembark. It did not require a FAQ (remember FAQs arent meant to change rules, which is what you are arguing) but the FAQ simply confirms the trend:

If you can NORMALLY do X in your movement phase, you can do X in your scout phase. Rmemeber you can pop smoke, which most definitely IS NOT moving!

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Embarking is a move (counts as a move means it IS A MOVE in all measures) so can be performed in the scout phase, if you have scout. Same for disembark. It did not require a FAQ (remember FAQs arent meant to change rules, which is what you are arguing) but the FAQ simply confirms the trend:

FAQs are there to clarify areas where the rules are not clear, and embarking/disembarking is not normal movement, it's the rules for dealing with units that are riding in a transport vehicle, and it is not 100% clear from the rules (without the FAQ) if you can embark/disembark during a scout move).
Embarking doesn't count as a moving, only disembarking. From the rules, a unit that starts with all models withing 2" of an access point, doesn't move to embark (at least the way it is written in my rulebook).

If the rulebooks were 100% consistent in their rules, we wouldn't be discussing this, and we wouldn't need FAQs.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
If you can NORMALLY do X in your movement phase, you can do X in your scout phase. Rmemeber you can pop smoke, which most definitely IS NOT moving!

But as I explained, popping smoke is something you can do after moving. If you moved/could move, you can pop smoke, and you can move during the scout move, so popping smoke in a scout move would be ok.

Turbo-boosting remains the seeming clinch case.

Both are special rules, used in place of the unit's regular move.
Both are done in the movement phase.
Both are described in their own entry as being movement.

GW originally ruled (ref DA codex, page 27) that Turbo-Boosting couldn't be done in the Scout move as it was not "normal movement", then reversed their reasoning.

In order to embark, you MUST move to within 2" of an access point, Simply starting there is not enough.

Hence why i said - embarking and disembarking are PERFECTLY normal movements you can make. Entirely so.

Popping smoke is NOT MOVEMENT, so why can you do it? Because it is something you can normally DO in a movement phase, even thjough it isnt actually movement.

Shunting is something you can normally do in your movement phase, AND it is a move!

If it counted as "Normal Movement" surely you would be able to assault after, as you are allowed to after a "Normal Move".

Yes one could assault afterwards, that's why the rule contains a prohibition from it.

We already have a definition of a "normal move" in the BRB, it's any move you'd be allowed to do in the movement phase except you must stay 12" away from enemies. Thus, shunting, which is a move you can do during your movement phase, is allowed. Anyone claiming that shunt is a special move for the purpouses of scouting should read the definition of a normal move in the scout rules one more time.

FAQs are there to clarify areas where the rules are not clear, and embarking/disembarking is not normal movement, it's the rules for dealing with units that are riding in a transport vehicle, and it is not 100% clear from the rules (without the FAQ) if you can embark/disembark during a scout move).
Embarking doesn't count as a moving, only disembarking. From the rules, a unit that starts with all models withing 2" of an access point, doesn't move to embark (at least the way it is written in my rulebook).

Finish this thought and you'll see that Shunting is allowed. As you state FaQs clarify grey areas they don't and can't change or create rules.

So no rule can require an FaQ to work, they can only require an FaQ for you to understand them.

The fact that the FaQs have been consistent on this matter with the wording in the Scouts USR (normal move = what you can do in the movement phase), it seems fictious to down right dishonest to claim that you beleive the rule to be anything but Shunting be allowed during the Scout move.

Mannahnin wrote:Turbo-boosting remains the seeming clinch case.

Both are special rules, used in place of the unit's regular move.
Both are done in the movement phase.
Both are described in their own entry as being movement.

GW originally ruled (ref DA codex, page 27) that Turbo-Boosting couldn't be done in the Scout move as it was not "normal movement", then reversed their reasoning.

This reasoning makes sense to me. I wonder why then did GW have the phrase "instead of moving" at the beginning of the personal teleporter entry? Obviously a shunt move is different from a regular jump infantry move (in max distance, one time usage), so what was the point? Just seems incredibly sloppy to me, which shouldn't be surprising I guess.