Squigs n Gretchens - WH40K Mafia Game - Game Over - Gretchin Win!? Vindicare Unlucky

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**Jburch**

Vote : Thor

Tried to protect the squigs day 1
Tried to lead a lynch on a Town Day 2...and then the town he was trying to lynch shows up dead on night 2.
I think its time to see what Thor's guts look like

**Thor665**

Also, food for thought, I'm pretty sure this and this are the only games on site where I was town.
I tried to control the vote both times.

I am honestly getting a little tired of the ol' scum call on Thor of 'he's trying to control the vote, waaah, waaah' here's a quick breakdown.

If I'm scum I want to control the vote so town gets lynched and not scum.

If I'm town I want to control the vote so that the person I believe is most likely scum gets lynched.

It's good for both sides of the coin.

**BishopGore**

I have to agree, especially as Thor wasn't really interested in a RiTides kill yesterday, he voted for him only when it seemed that prototype-X wouldn't be killed. Unluckily he was wrong, but he is weeding out the weak links in the chain.

We need to work out why Mordo was killed, was he a threat to an assassin character, or did he seem most scum-like to a vigilante character?

Why was RiTides killed? He was calling over and over for a Thor lynch, but nobody listened to him until he was killed, so maybe he was killed to point the finger of suspicion at Thor (though if this was the plan it was rather clumsy). Or did the scum think RiTides might have had a special ability?

When we know the answer to those 2 questions we'll find the scum and win this game.

**Thor665**

I would tend to suspect a Mordo kill due to his sidelining yesterday. He really looked like he was avoiding making much of a call yesterday which can be really rough on VCA and play analysis. Considering, in my opinion, both of the shot attacks were on scummy/lurky players I think whoever is shooting is aiding our purposes at the moment.

I suspect RiTides is dead because he was shouting about me. Either I'm scum and was fearful of how mighty his wagon generating powers on me where (doubtful - he never managed any) or he was killed in order to add to general paranoia about 'oh, look, here's Thor and his biggest detractor is dead - lynch him town, please lynch him.'

Of course I always think it's all about me

But, though I won't suggest any targets, if scum were trying to find a PR than they picked very poorly in killing a player who was willing to self-vote.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

I have to agree that it seems Ri was killed in order to try and get us to look more at Thor. Of course there's always the chance Thor did it to throw us off, cause you know everything is about him after all

The Mordo kill that was unexpected, but I agree with Thor's assessment in that it was most likely due to sidelining/lurking. Honestly I thought there was a good chance I'd come away with a hole in the head, but it would seem like the shooter has a pattern developing.

Right now I'm looking at, well everyone.

Vulkan did seem a little quick to jump at Thor, I can see his being worried about Thor controlling, but he always does that and I was the one pushing for a Ri lynch for a while yesterday.

Krell well, like Bishop pointed out yesterday, he hasn't posted much in the thread and usually only votes mainly I'd like to get rid of him for that. Though thinking about it that would be more a waste, and the squig could use that time to strike other targets. Also his vote for me yesterday was a little suspicious.

Jburch jumped rather quickly at Thor coming into the new day, joining Vulkan and putting Thor with two votes to his name. Through out the game he's posted enough to make it so he's not just popping in to vote, and he doesn't post enough to doing most of the talking. Could be a good place for the Squig, or even the Vig to be.

BishopGore, most of my looking at you is pretty much do to you being one of the talkative three (Bishop, Thor, Me). From experience in previous games, being one of the more talkative persons has been a scum strategy and one that works rather well.

Thor, well Thor most of what makes you suspicious has already be stated by others so no need to beat that dead horse. Still though I'm watching you.

Finally there's me, I do know that some of my actions could be seen as suspicious, and I'm certain more than one of you may think so. I've talked literally just to hear myself talk, alot of it was round about and didn't say much or was back and forth banter with Thor that had little purpose. Also I did decide to abandon my vote for Krell in favor a vote for Prototype, something Thor was pushing for it was a moment of compromise that ended with an innocents death. And you know what, I don't really care that it did. Sure losing townies is bad, but if they die narrowing the suspect list and if that helps the town win its a good thing.

Which brings me back to Thor, you have called it wrong twice, but its not you I'm going to vote for, at least not yet. Instead I'm going with;

Vote:Jburch

**Jburch**

I just call it like I see it. I suppose the whole point of the game is that noone can ever be sure that someone is scum or town, so you can either try and lynch someone based on past events in the game, or you can think that everything is some elaborate plot being put together by scum.

I can try and defend myself, but in the end any defense can be met with "he is a squig trying to pin it on (insert name here), he is trying to play us lie a fool!"

All I can say however is that BrotherStynier, you are wrong, I am town, and lynching me will not put the town closer to its goals.....unless you are scum...in which case it will put you closer to YOUR goals.

**Thor665**

BrotherStynier wrote:Which brings me back to Thor, you have called it wrong twice

And correct once. If Rab counts against me than Drk_O counts for me. That puts me in as good a standing as anyone else in this game.

Vote: Bishop Gore

He's the only currently alive player who was trying to keep the Thor wagon alive when the Thor wagon was competing with the Rab wagon. I'm guessing at least one scumbuddy was trying to help save Rab's backside.

**BishopGore**

I'm surprised noone has pointed that out until now actually Thor. Yeah, it was definitely not my finest moment of this game, so early on, but since then I have been much more careful. I have voted slowly and deliberately and haven't vote hopped like so many others. I know I haven't been massively helpful so far this game, but I will keep trying. If people still think I'm useless by the end of the day I hope voting me at least moves us towards winning the game.

BrotherStynier, I am worried if I am one of the more talkative ones, remember previous games when you were away twelve hours and the pages had increased by two? Glad those games are behind us! But I have been missing for periods of days at a time and haven't really been paying attention like I used to.

Not really got any reads on anyone at the moment, really need to sit down and root through the thread. Will do soon.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Thor665 wrote:
BrotherStynier wrote:Which brings me back to Thor, you have called it wrong twice

And correct once. If Rab counts against me than Drk_O counts for me. That puts me in as good a standing as anyone else in this game.

That is true, because technically so far I've be wrong twice as well. With Ri, and Prototype.

BishopGore wrote:

BrotherStynier, I am worried if I am one of the more talkative ones, remember previous games when you were away twelve hours and the pages had increased by two? Glad those games are behind us! But I have been missing for periods of days at a time and haven't really been paying attention like I used to.

Ah the old days, back when I had work and was always the Inquisitor, you know despite your missing times, you've still posted more than most.

Jburch, I just have this feeling and right now I wanna roll with it you aren't in too much danger, yet.

**RiTides**

(OOC: Oh, bugger, I'm dead...)

**Thor665**

@Mod - can we get a prod on Krellnus, please?

**SagesStone**

Prod sent.

Vote Update
BishopGore - 1 - (Thor)
Jburch - 1 - (Stynier)
Thor656 - 2 - (Vulkan, Jburch)
BrotherStynier - 0 -
Krellnus - 0 -
Vulkan_He'stan - 0 -
No Lynch - 0 -

Day Phase Three Start
This day phase will end on the 29th as shown in this timer.
With 6 alive, 4 are required for the lynch. Currently if time were to run out Thor would be lynched.

Vote Log
Vulkan vote Thor
Jburch vote Thor
Stynier vote Jburch
Thor vote Bishop

**Krellnus**

Ahhh sorry guys, was sidetracked by an unexpected amount of school work I just got dumped with, looking at the way Thor has been trying to control the votes and his votes have had no particluar preference for either scum or town, I think he may be the vig, but I have no inkling on who the scum is.
Until than, I think I will have to vote for a no-lynch.
vote: No lynch

**BishopGore**

Thor said on Day 2 that the Krellnus being scum idea didn't make sense, but in light of the connection between both of the confirmed scum and the bandwagon he attempted on Day 2 of RiTides (who we now know was town) I think it should be revisited.

He pops up infrequently just to vote and has now voted no lynch, possibly because he thinks it will make him less of a target.

Vote: Krellnus

**Krellnus**

@everyone - for the record the only reason I pop up 'just to vote' is because I have nothing of consequence to add (though it may also just be to spread chaos and confusion in the air).
If you want me pop my head in more often, than I will do so tomorrow as I am pretty tired atm, however I still stand by my decision that not lynching is the safest bet for us atm.

**Thor665**

Why is it the safest bet?

**Thor665**

We also appear to be lurking towards a lynch of me - since I'm doing 50% of the talking this annoys me greatly. Lynch someone having less fun from the game - like BishopGore.

**Krellnus**

Thor665 wrote:Why is it the safest bet?

Because I feel that now is the pivotal time of the game and that one wrong gamble will screw us over, I am currently of the belief that if someone is lynched and they flip town, the town will be left to just be picked off. Whereas if they flip scum, the others may feel cornered (unless there is one scum left in which my case just gets blown out of the water by my fail memory and I need to have a long hard think)

**BishopGore**

That hardly seems fair Thor... I might not be here as much as I might like, but I am still enjoying the game. I don't think anyone left alive could be classed as not enjoying the game, now Krellnus is making more of an effort to talk.

**Thor665**

@Krellnus - I like your vibe, except we only have one scum left, which means we have two lynches to track him down in.

@Bishop Gore - if you're having fun how come you haven't figured out where to vote yet?

**Thor665**

Also, with a little less than two days left - I'll claim my role towards the end of today if no votes change the current lynch situation.

I'd rather see a few more people actually vote and make a move though.

**BishopGore**

I am voting. For Krellnus.

**Thor665**

Fair enough - I was looking at the last vote count. That said a Krellnus vote still leaves us in these pathetic doldrums we're in.

@Stynier - You seem to have a townish read on me and sorta attacked Jburch after he went pants on head towards me. I'm leaning Jburch as town at the moment, how do you feel about a BishopG lynch? If you vote that way there's at least a 50/50 I don't die and we can deal with Jburch later, I promise.

**Vulkan_He'stan**

I'm going on holiday for a week till Saturday morning
I think I will be back half way through the next day so maybe I could stay in as I can't do much at night and I'm not changing my vote
but if you replace me I don't mind

**Krellnus**

Thor665 wrote:@Krellnus - I like your vibe, except we only have one scum left, which means we have two lynches to track him down in.

@Bishop Gore - if you're having fun how come you haven't figured out where to vote yet?

Sigh....
Just my luck :(

**Thor665**

Okay - this is clearly going nowhere fast, which is probably how scum want it.

Claim - I'm an Ammo Grot.

Please move your votes somewhere useful and stop derpy-doing my lynch.

**Thor665**

Meh, to clarify - I'm the Vig

I killed Drk_O and Mordoskull. Tonight I can kill someone else. (and it will ruddy well by Bishop Gore if I can't get people to lynch him normal for me).

**Thor665**

You guys...

This will be view 1872. So now I can track how many people have seen my claim and not had the grapefruits to even comment.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Eh... what the hell. I'll side with Thor for now even though this all seems kinda shady.

Unvote:Jburch

Vote:BishopGore

**Krellnus**

Guess I'll follow suit with this bandwagon
Unvote: No lynch
Vote: BishopGore