Squigs n Gretchens - WH40K Mafia Game - Game Over - Gretchin Win!? Vindicare Unlucky

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**Jburch**

Also to follow up, A few phases ago I was voting to lynch Krell, Since I cant be for certain who the Killer is, I could be convinced for a lynch on Krell, but at the moment, it seems that all eyes are on me (very beady eyes that have evil intentions).

I dunno though, Thors plan of lynching me and shooting someone else to find "scum" could also be looked at as assured victory for him if he is the Killer.

**Thor665**

Jburch wrote:Basicaly I see it like this, There are 4 of us left. One person (at least) is running around with a gun shooting people. 3 of us say "I dont have a gun", while one of us says "I got a gun, but I am not killing good guys!"

I'm evil because I'm openly claiming I have a gun and am the one shooting things and specifically calling out my targets even?

Yesterday you went with the story that Thor was lying about his claim and was scummy. Now I'm telling the truth and am scummy. Does this confuse you, because it sure confuses me.

Jburch wrote:You defended yourself by saying that you were killing scum, but from the get go people were after you for a lynch. Maybe you realized that if the Scum were left alive, then you would be eaten in your sleep. Maybe you thought that you would have a better chance of winning by taking out the scum, and then using the towns trust to lynch each other. Or maybe, I am completely wrong and making no sense

So, everyone was after me to lynch me, so in terror I started killing the scum because they might kill me in the night (not that there's a reason to if everyone is trying to lynch me).
I'm going with the "making no sense" option here.

Okay, I need to see Krellnus put out a vote and clarify his thoughts on who is the scummiest.
I think Jburch has to be the lynch today, he's screaming scum right now. If he's not scum I'm shooting my second top suspect, but I frankly think I'm on the money here.

**Jburch**

I did not think you were the Vig last phase, but you called your shot, so now I am thinking you do have a role, it just isnt what you claim it to be.

I never said that in terror you started killing squigs, just that people were after you for lynch. If the town was leery of you, then you had pressure coming from Town. The squigs always have the ability to kill at night, so there is a chance that you will be eaten with them left alive. I am thinking that maybe you figured by helping town in the beginning, then you could gain trust to get some pressure off of your lynch, since you cant really gain the trust of the squigs (they will eat ya no matter what in the end).

You guys can lynch me and waste a lynch if you want. Since Thor is leading the charge I suppose everyone else will fall in line and I will be dead next, no matter what I do or say. Might as well stick with my "Thor is an evil genious" hypothesis. If I am wrong then o well, I will earn from this game and try harder next game. If I am right, however, well....that would be super cool. I really want to believe that Thors increasing pressure on me after every post of mine is an indicator that I am on the money about this.

C'est La Vie

**Thor665**

Actually it's the pants on head lack of consideration for any other alternative that is making me up the pressure. Town is almost never this sure of anything. Scum are.

Also, by attacking me you prove you are, without doubt, not the Doc, which is also a big tell.

**Krellnus**

Honestly Thor, I had just assumed there was, as I know for a certainty that there is either a SK or a Vig, I believe it is safer at this point to assume it is a SK.

**Thor665**

@Krellnus - than you should be voting me, because if there is an SK it *has8 to be me because I'm the one claiming the kills and I'd be insane to do that if I wasn't the one actually killing.

You should also vote though, I personally support a vote on Jburch however, he's highly likely scum.

**Krellnus**

Yeah, tbh Jburch is seaming the most scummy at the moment so, I will vote for him
vote: Jburch

**Jburch**

Ahhhhh, the end is getting close

Hope you guys have a good plan for tonight, cus the game aint over when I die...

**SagesStone**

Vote Update
Jburch - 2 - (Thor, Krellnus)
Thor656 - 1 - (Jburch)
BrotherStynier - 0 -
Krellnus - 0 -
No Lynch - 0 -

This phase will go for one week ending on the 8th as shown in this timer here.
As ther are four alive, it only takes three votes for a lynch. At the moment there is a tie between Thor and Jburch.

Vote Log
Jburch vote Thor
Thor vote Jburch
Krellnus Vote Jburch

**Jburch**

Thor voted for me on page 8, might want to correct that

**SagesStone**

He did too, I missed it in the middle of his text. Updating the log and tally now.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Well I suppose you all knew this was coming, as my suspicion was leveled at Jburch for the last phase and indeed this one as well so,

Vote: Jburch

**Thor665**

That's hammer - flip, flip, flip!

I will smack a Skarboy if Jburch flips town.

Which of you guys was Doc? I want to smooch you.

**Krellnus**

Yeah, I will admit that if Jburch flips town, that I think we should definatley lynch Thor

**Thor665**

If Jburch flips town I'm your last hope to get scum - derp.

**Krellnus**

Yes, but you are the one that convinced us to lynch Jburch, if he flips town, you will look pretty scummy I reckon

**Jburch**

If I flip town (which I will)

And Thor is scum, with a gun....then I think its game over

**SagesStone**

Vote Update
Jburch - 3 - (Thor, Krellnus, Stynier)
Thor656 - 1 - (Jburch)
BrotherStynier - 0 -
Krellnus - 0 -
No Lynch - 0 -

Vote Log
Jburch vote Thor
Thor vote Jburch
Krellnus Vote Jburch
Stynier vote Jburch

The argument was much briefer than usual, the Gretchin actually coming to a conclusion for once. Jburch ran for the door as the fellow Gretchin chased him. Still being locked it was a dead end and he had to weave through the Gretchin to attempt his escape. He ran to the opposite end of the shack, the rest still in pursuit, and dove through the small hole they had planed to escape through. There he was standing in the middle of the empty Squig pen, the battle that had surrounded the shack was reaching its end, small box like objects were now raining in the distance. A small number of Orks ran past, the Nob of the squad grabbing Jburch to use as a luck Gretchin in the battle ahead; some strange looking Meganobz.

It is safe to assume two things, firstly that Jburch is a Gretchin and secondly that he was unwillingly involved in at least one fight against the IoM.

Night Phase Four Start
This phase will last 48 and finish on the 6th as shown in this timer.

**Krellnus**

Hmmm with Jburch out of the picture, I think we should all go for a lynch of Thor656, who I'm guessing now is most likely scum that lead us on a false trail from the start.

**SagesStone**

Not long after Jburch had disappeared into the distance there was a distinct and slight popping sound. Those remaining turned around to see that Krellnus' head had just exploded into a fountain of bone fragments, brain matter and blood. The Gretchin cut off mid sentence, it proceeded to flail around in a similar manner to Vulkan. Leaving only Stynier and Thor out of all the Gretchin. However, Stynier had come to a shocking discovery that had manage to escape all the other Gretchin; there had been one less Gretchin in the room since the very beginning. Outside the small shack on the roof of another lay a dark figure; the Vindicare, Thor. Hand placed on one side of his head as if he was communicating on some unseen radio he gave the brief announcement "Phase one complete, initiating phase two". The silent figure jumped down from the roof and quickly ran into the Gretchin shack. Through the opposite window he had a clear shot at the warboss, his main objective. But first he would have to deal with Vulkan.

Krellnus was the target of the night kill. Leaving both Thor and Stynier. With 2 alive it would require 2 to lynch.

Day Phase Five Start
Sudden Death

Thor656 - 0 -
BrotherStynier - 0 -
No Lynch - 0 -

This phase will go for one week ending on the 11th, as shown in this timer.

**Thor665**

...lol?

So, Stynier, are you a double voter or something, because that's the only way I can imagine you win. Considering my role has been revealed by the mod basically we're to the stage where either you have a way to deal with me, or we lynch you/vote no lynch/wait for the day to end and go to night in which case I'll wim because I'll kill you at night.

Vote: Brother Stynier

So, if you've got something, you've got me, if not, this is game/set/match.

**RiTides**

(I guess I shouldn't really post, since the game's not "over"... but it seems to be? Also: Knew we should've lynched Thor

the puppeteer at work, once again...)

**VictorVonTzeentch**

This is very odd, frankly and the only way I see out of it is to vote for you and hope you get chosen at random.

Vote: Thor

Obviously I won't be able to win in the night phase, other wise you'd already be dead.

**Thor665**

I guess there's the 50/50...though that's weak, functionally this should be my win and I stand by my right to whine about it post game if I lose

Yo, n0t_u! If this thing is coming down to a die roll, just do the die roll.

**Thor665**

RiTides wrote:(I guess I shouldn't really post, since the game's not "over"... but it seems to be? Also: Knew we should've lynched Thor the puppeteer at work, once again...)

All part of my charm.

**Thor665**

BrotherStynier wrote:Obviously I won't be able to win in the night phase, other wise you'd already be dead.

Ah, okay, so you're the last scum - natch. Well, that makes sense.

...nah, this should be a 50/50, you deserve the chance. Though I did most of the heavy lifting for you...I just honestly thought Jburch was the last scum

**SagesStone**

I was leaving room for at least you both to have a choice first.

Random says that Thor dies.

As the Vindicare raced towards the shack the lone Gretchin fled through the hole to the squig pen. Now in the shack the assassin lined up his shot at the warboss, however the shooting skills of the Imperial Guard would say otherwise. A stray Basilisk shell missed the Warboss' fortress and instead landed straight on top of the shack. Stynier was thrown from the blast, but otherwise fine. The triumphant Gretchin was in awe, truely Gork and Mork looked down on him in favour. Unfortunately for him the Warboss thought this also and not long after the indicent dragged the Gretchin around as a lucky charm.

The war continued for a few more months the Warboss at the front lines, with Stynier not too far away. Eventually the Orks would be victorious driving the humans away from the planet. However the Gretchin's life ended not in battle, but when the Warboss failed to win a bet with his lucky charm nearby.

If any are interesting I might open the sign up for the next one in about a week. If you want to host it yourself, go ahead, but don't forget about the people who are in reserve who should be given precedence and added first.

**Thor665**

Wait, Stynier was a Gretchin? I totally call foul on the 50/50 thing than. My role inherently has a 50% lose ratio no matter how well it's played under these rules.

Conventionally a scum player getting to equal numbers with town means scum wins.

Overall though, really fun game. I enjoyed myself greatly. I think you probably should have released the setup rules to the players in general - it probably would have allowed town a legitimate chance at a win as I would have had to try to argue that someone had flipped as a miller on the last lynch day. I, at times, felt I had an advantage insomuch as I was aware of the setup moreso than the other players.

I'll play again if you host.

@Stynier - told you I'm always scum

**prototype_X**

I will play

also i was the painboy

**VictorVonTzeentch**

I was a Savage Gretchin (Anti-Town) Thor, and you took out my partner, Vulkan, which I didn't expect you would do and in the second to last day I was trying to think of how I could turn everyone against you.

You know this time I did figure you to be the Vig or Serial Killer mainly those last couple days I thought you were a Serial Killer though.

Truthfully I only thought you were pro-town cause I was scum.