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The OP is right. No one is gaiing any ground here and no one is changing anyone's mind. Chalk this impasse up to GW's sloppy writing of the GK codex and go about your merry way arguing with your opponent (preferably before the game) or making a random roll. That appears the only way it's going to get solved.

how many times has that been said on this thread?

I think a bigger problem is that induvidual members on either side aren't saying the exact same thing so they end up creating easy to combat replies because they're not as clever and saying things that thier allies disagree with.

It's definatly possiable. It's also possiable that both sides claim that the others argument makes no sense and is irrelevant. The discussion dosent progress and becomes a pointless "your wrong..." "No your wrong..."

Either way at this point all we are doing is wasting time.

well, really it's all of the above

it's like I always say "it can be more than one thing"

Finally, something everyone should be able to agree on lol


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Ah, inspiration.
@ The OP, if you ever truly need an answer as to if the clone field works or not, how about meeting in the middle.

Mind you this is just a peacekeeping idea and has no grounding in the actuall rules.

Once you roll your d3 declare that one will specifically be held for the heroic sacrifice hit. If I was playing you with my GK's I, personally, would find this an acceptable compromise. Take it for what its worth.

Locked at OP's request... and rightfully so by the look of it...