MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68)

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**Druidic**

My 2 pence.

Druidic played Grim Cargo.... druidic likey

Also many MANY skaven.... therefor space Ver Min by definition a must purchase!

Final note... Ver Min gagging to be converted to Skyre or Warplock Enginseers.... yay happy Druidic

on a more serious note, Discussed with Jake Thornton about the game and its plans.

Will contain 10 figures of each race and 6 missions, mission 1 being a training game the Corperation cant win, the other 5 being a linkex arc but with not tranfered stuff between them.

Potential for very simple multiplayer rules, while unlikely to be in the main game, likely to be available for download.

Game appears complex at first, but plays quite quick after about 15 minutes of getting your head arround, my 14 yearold picked it up fast enough to do better thrn some adults.

The devil is in the details, I could see this being a classic "simple to learn, tricky to master" game which makes.it a winner in my book.

**nkelsch**

I don't mind the idea of space rats, but the models are pretty bad, and why would the fluff be "don't talk about the 8th race" when they are just space rats? I mean the models show they haven't even mastered making clothes as everything they wear is ripped and torn. And we are supposed to believe this civilizationly inept race has mastered space travel or is actually a threat in the mantic universe to anyone?

It really makes no sense. There is no sense of dread inspired by the 8th race if they are the space rats. The universe for mantic is so laughably bad, it actually harms the appeal of the models. The reason people like GW is because they like the fluff and the universe.

The rush to make a big universe with loads of poorly designed knockoff races hurts mantic. They keep writing checks their models quality can't cash.

**Kroothawk**

nkelsch wrote:I don't mind the idea of space rats, but the models are pretty bad, and why would the fluff be "don't talk about the 8th race" when they are just space rats?

It is a reference to the Skaven background.

**Pacific**

New info on the Mantic blog about 'Corporation week'

With all of the Corporation unveiled now for the launch in March, we’re going to be taking a look at what went into building the army, some new battleshots of the Corporation in action and we’ve even put your questions from Facebook to Mike McVey!
Over the weekend, pictures of the Major-General broke cover. Many of you will have noticed that we snuck him into the shot on the home page – here’s the full photo:

What’s great about the Major-General is he is the first Mantic hero with variant options. You can take him with the Energy Sword…

… or the Energy Fist:

This great Remy sculpt has been effortlessly brought to life by the fine fellows at Golem Painting Studio. You can pick it up in the webstore now as either an individual blister or free in our great value pre-launch army deals.

Not sure what the Corporation stuff had to do with Mike McVey, does anyone know?

**Kroothawk**

McVey made the concept sketches.

BTW is it correct that "with all of the Corporation unveiled now", the army consists of the following choices:
One standard troop, one elite troop, one heavy weapon and one officer?

**nkelsch**

Kroothawk wrote:
nkelsch wrote:I don't mind the idea of space rats, but the models are pretty bad, and why would the fluff be "don't talk about the 8th race" when they are just space rats?

It is a reference to the Skaven background.

But yet they are not GW rip-offs? It makes no sense to me why they would make a core aspect of their fluff dependant on GW fluff.

**Cyporiean**

nkelsch wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
nkelsch wrote:I don't mind the idea of space rats, but the models are pretty bad, and why would the fluff be "don't talk about the 8th race" when they are just space rats?

It is a reference to the Skaven background.
But yet they are not GW rip-offs? It makes no sense to me why they would make a core aspect of their fluff dependant on GW fluff.

hommage

**nkelsch**

Cyporiean wrote:
nkelsch wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
nkelsch wrote:I don't mind the idea of space rats, but the models are pretty bad, and why would the fluff be "don't talk about the 8th race" when they are just space rats?

It is a reference to the Skaven background.
But yet they are not GW rip-offs? It makes no sense to me why they would make a core aspect of their fluff dependant on GW fluff.

hommage

If there wasn't a direct monetary incentive to rip off a competing product, then I might agree with you on a fan-fiction or fan-art. If this was someones custom codex for a converted army they made for skaven in space, then it might be a hommage.

This is not. And for once I thought MANTIC was doing something original by having a dangerous alien race which was in their universe that the corporation had a reason for keeping a whole races existence under wraps... and then to find out it was just space rats was a letdown. To hear it was a direct reference to GW's Skaven is even worse.

(I am still not even sure I get the reference as I am not a big Skaven fluff buff, can anyone elaborate how it is a reference to Skaven?)

**scarletsquig**

Some extra snippets posted by Mantic staff:

There are two Plastic Resin Veer-myn kits in the office at the moment - the Night-Crawlers and the Stalkers.

They are different units; unique torsos, heads, arms and weapons in each. Heads and arms are seperate from the body on both of them.

**BrookM**

Any word on when the Corporation might expect its first vehicle kit?

**scarletsquig**

Current sketchy rumours hint at a small jeep-sized kit later in the year. I think it's a tough one for Mantic since they know they can't release a big vehicle at a low price point.

Thankfully, plenty of other companies are releasing suitable vehicles in the mean time. Secret Weapon and Proxie-models are the two I'm keeping an eye on. Same goes for terrain, the Vengeance Miniatures stuff for Warpath seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth (their website is down), but I don't see it as a big deal since there's Warmill and Sarissa both making excellent generic stuff.

**Kroothawk**

scarletsquig wrote:Some extra snippets posted by Mantic staff:

There are two Plastic Resin Veer-myn kits in the office at the moment - the Night-Crawlers and the Stalkers.
They are different units; unique torsos, heads, arms and weapons in each. Heads and arms are seperate from the body on both of them.

Maybe it is a good thing that the 8th race is basically Skryre Skaven: I can use them to diversify my Skaven army

Suddenly it is an advantage that the biggest threat in a SciFi universe is barefoot and wears medieval armour and loincloths

**The Dwarf Wolf**

Hm, they are rat-man, you know... they are supposed to look like rat man.

**Kingsley**

The Dwarf Wolf wrote:Hm, they are rat-man, you know... they are supposed to look like rat man.

There are lots of ways to make "rat men" without ripping off GW's Skaven models wholesale.

**Alpharius**

Alpharius wrote:OK...

This is the MANTIC News (and rumors) Thread.

It is probably time to take all of the stuff that isn't news, rumors or discussion thereof to another thread, one that isn't located in the News & Rumors forum.

Dakka Discussions maybe?

All Off Topic discussion will be deleted as such, and warnings, and possibly suspensions, will be handed out for continuing any off topic posting in this thread.

Thanks!

lord marcus wrote:
Alpharius wrote:OK...

This is the MANTIC News (and rumors) Thread.

It is probably time to take all of the stuff that isn't news, rumors or discussion thereof to another thread, one that isn't located in the News & Rumors forum.

Dakka Discussions maybe?

All Off Topic discussion will be deleted as such, and warnings, and possibly suspensions, will be handed out for continuing any off topic posting in this thread.

Thanks!

new thread below

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/431287.page#3939216

AlexHolker wrote:
lord marcus wrote:new thread below

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/431287.page#3939216

Rats, I just created a new thread too!

Mine's here. But mine's already got a first post.

Last warning. (Again.)

**Rolt**

Here you go new scenery shot from the blog:

Pretty sure I've seen this terrain before, it was made by a small company that specialized in resin based gothic sci-fi terrain (i.e 40k style), maybe Mantics made some sort of deal with them.

**Tazok**

The terrain is from quantum gothic. It's great stuff, I have lots of it.

**Rolt**

Tazok wrote:The terrain is from quantum gothic. It's great stuff, I have lots of it.

Hey thanks, could'nt remeber the name for the life of me.

**Kroothawk**

Quantum Gothic's website is currently worked on, but will be restarted soon.

**Azazelx**

Fosner1703 wrote:
garrapignado wrote:These soldiers need to go to gym to fortify those thighs.

That and why are they all firing from the hip? But the super skinny thighs really bug me.

They're actually all clones.

Of Wallowitz.

**Pacific**

Some interview questions with Mike McVey, from the Mantic Blog.

What was your primary inspiration for the Corporation? Were any particular movies, historical eras, novels, or games inspirational?
I’ll answer this from a visual perspective – Alessio would be the man to ask about the inspiration for the background of the Corporation. We drew inspiration from a wider variety of different places for the way the troops look (at least the ones you have seen so far!) – there are definite echoes of modern American Infantry in the way they look, but we wanted to make sure they had a clear sci-fi look and feel.
There are some classic movie renderings of science fiction soldiers – Aliens being a prime example, but we felt they were just a little on the low-tech side for what we wanted. You have to remember though – The Corporation is a huge and varied faction, encompassing lots of the human population of the Warpath universe, so what you have seen so far is only just scrapping the surface of what they have to offer.

what kind of releases have you planned in the future for the Corporation?
Some really exciting ones! I’m obviously not going to give anything away, but we have [*Edited by the power of the Corporation*] being worked on at the moment for something later this year, and they are looking stuffing. In fact I would go as far as to say the first sculpt is the best thing in the whole Mantic range so far… I’m very excited about it. In the longer term we will be moving upwards in size a little, and focusing on different aspects of the Corporation army rather than infantry.

Does the Corporation know what the 8th race is?
Good question! I’m not really the man to answer that question, but I can tell you this – if they don’t know by now, they are about to find out. Project Pandora is coming…!

What can we expect from Vehicles? My Forgefathers want a transport.
Funny you should mention vehicles, there has been a lot of discussion around that subject lately. We’ve got a couple of vehicles in the game so far (the Marauder Raptor and Forge Father Hailstorm cannon), and there are definitely some more on the way. We’ll be doing some different medium sized vehicles for both of those factions, and then stepping up the size to something a little more impressive. Put it this way, a large part of the last design meeting was spend stacking up various objects of different sizes, to decide just how large out next foray into vehicles will be…
The first concept (from the ever wonderful Roberto Cirillo) is done – and I have to say it’s looking fantastic. Other than that, you’ll have to wait and see.

**Rolt**

Some new pics from the blog for your enjoyment (not really news I know):

Kind of thought we would be seeing more Project Pandora news by now. Mantics blog made it sound like some great big unveiling of the game and the 8th race was going to happen, yet so far all we've seen is a few floor tiles, tokens and two unimpressive veermyn miniatures.

Would love to see more of the veermyn, I'm still holding judgment on the army as a whole until I see more.

**scarletsquig**

Here's what the army box looks like:

Considering that the models are resin plastic, they've done a good job of keeping the cost down on the army box. I know it's not the really, really cheap prices and plastic sprues that a lot of people want from Mantic, but personally speaking, I don't care. Corp are more expensive than the Forgefathers and Marauders, but are way better. Seperate heads and arms on all models, none of that 2-part clone trooper rubbish. Good variety of special, heavy and melee weapons included. I'm happy to pay a little extra for Mantic to do a proper job and produce some good stuff, and with the Corp I think they've finally got something that a good amount of 40k players might be interested in.

As I think a lot of people on here will agree, it doesn't matter how cheap the models are if they don't cut it in terms of quality, so for once I really don't mind the higher prices because I can at least see a tangible quality increase for the money. It's not just like GW where they randomly double the prices of 10-year old kits for no reason, I can see where the money has been spent to make these better than the cheaper forgefathers and marauders. As an aside, the resin plastic material is superior to plastic IMO, it has undercuts, plastic doesn't, and this really makes a huge difference to the sculpt since you don't get that loss of detail on the sides of the model that you do with plastic.

If anyone is curious about what Mantic's resin plastic looks like "out of the box" BoW did an unboxing of the mantic wraiths recently. Close-ups of the models start at about 2 minutes into the video, and the models are good examples of sculpts that would not have been possible to make in plastic due to all the undercuts on the robes.

Worth noting that Wayland has the army box up for pre-order at 25% off and also currently has a free shipping voucher code (FREESHIPFEB) for the next 5 days on orders over £40.

**The Dwarf Wolf**

I really need an excuse to buy an army of those... but i think i will wait for the space elves from Mantic...

Anyway, maybe they could be used as Tau...

**Azazelx**

hrm.. so AU$60-odd for 4 squads of infantry, 3 weapon teams and an officer (to get us over the £40 mark - and because it's a nice model). I might cautiously buy that...

**Pacific**

Mantic have just re-launched their official forums.

The blurb from their blog:

Upgrading our existing Forum package in almost every way, the new Community hub is your place to talk about all things Mantic.

From discussing that last game of Kings of War you played to giving the newest sculpts from Mantic the once over, the new Forum is slicker, faster and a lot more user friendly.
You can now have your own Forum name and avatar, with a simplistic and painless sign-up process where you no longer have to enter all of your address details.

Furthermore, you can now post pictures of your armies and showcase your models without having to link to external sites, and you can search through threads and posts easier than ever before.
Like the Corporation? Hankering after a copy of Project Pandora? Tell us on the forum (or drop us a comment below… or on Facebook… or Twitter. In fact, there’s loads of ways to talk to us!)
There’s also a Blog where our Pathfinders and moderators can report back on the shows they’ve been too and what miniatures they’ve recently painted.
Of course, this feature is open to you as well, meaning you can share your hobby with us in more ways than ever before.
We’ve still got some more tweaks and a couple of new features to add, but for now, check out the new Forum, get signed up and get posting!

Seems to be a similar system to the latest Warseer. Certainly, I think it will be nice to have a focal point for Mantic and it certainly looks a lot better than the previous one.

Link is here: http://forum.manticblog.com/forum.php

**Rolt**

Hot from the blog:

Night Spawn with Power Drill and Chem-Thrower (Veer-myn hero).

Sorry best image I could get.

**The Dwarf Wolf**

That is crazy... i want to see the greens o.O

**Pacific**

Latest update on the blog

We’ve now broken the back of February and we’ve hurtled straight into March, a month that is going to be marked by the sci-fi troopers of the Corporation, ahead of April’s Project Pandora and May’s Veer-myn launch.

Speaking of Veer-myn, towards the end of the month we’re going to be giving away a free Veer-myn Dossier – a free guide to the new sci-fi race from Mantic Games. It’ll include stats to use the models in Warpath, background and the first look at the Veer-myn units.
Those of you already on the newsletter would have received the Corporation Dossier and seen the new units before anyone else – the Veer-myn Dossier will do absolutely the same thing, bringing you all the latest news straight to your inbox!

Look out for the newsletter towards the end of the month if you’re already signed up and, if you’re not, all you need to do is enter your name and email address into the sign-up form here and you’ll automatically be registered to receive the Dossier.

**Eilif**

Pacific wrote:Latest update on the blog

Speaking of Veer-myn, towards the end of the month we’re going to be giving away a free Veer-myn Dossier – a free guide to the new sci-fi race from Mantic Games. It’ll include stats to use the models in Warpath, background and the first look at the Veer-myn units.
Those of you already on the newsletter would have received the Corporation Dossier and seen the new units before anyone else – the Veer-myn Dossier will do absolutely the same thing, bringing you all the latest news straight to your inbox!

This is good news for me.
I enjoyed my first game of Warpath and will probably be playing it again next week. Every new army list released gives me more units with which to more accurately represent the 40k figures I've been using. Of course the Forgefather and Corporation lists on their own do a pretty good job of representing my Marines and IG, but it's still nice to have more options. Especially if I ever get around to painting my backlog of eldar and orcs...

I'm looking forward to at some point being able to buy a hard copy of the rules with all the races included.