MANTIC News thread! (Corporation Marines unboxed, p.68)

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**heartserenade**

Whoa, after buying a zombie regiment from Mantic with my miniwargaming gift certificate, I was compelled to read all of this thread.

And it is very long. Damn.

Anyway, thoughts: I'm not starting an IG army anytime soon, but those Corp models would make fine Inquisitorial Henchmen. And is it only me, but I do like how the Orcs/Orx look, even the faces. Never really liked GW orcs face-wise since they have the look that you can't take seriously (although I do appreciate that they bring comedy to an otherwise grimdark setting).

Something OT:

Spoiler:

**Pacific**

The blog mentions the birthday of the owner/director(?) of Mantic, and they were selling random collections of minis for either KoW or Warpath at a reduced price.

The sale was meant to end last night (Thursday), but it looks like it is still up for the time being so perhaps they are letting it run for a little longer.

Kings of War pack (At least 30 miniatures, warmachines and a pair of clippers for £20) http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Special-Offers/Product/Ronnies-Kings-of-War-Birthday-Box.html

Warpath pack (At least 20 miniatures, FF Jotum cannon or Marauder Raptor, clippers for £20) http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Special-Offers/Product/Ronnies-Warpath-Birthday-Box.html

They are usually very generous with giving extra stuff with these kinds of deals (every order I have made from Mantic has had some kind of extra sprue or something in side) so I think definitely worth checking out if you wanted to see the Mantic minis for yourself before choosing whether to make a larger investment.

**siamtiger**

@ Scarlet

I'm posting this in behalf of Christian who did our review;

I'm sorry, but this is simply wrong. The models come with a ball joint to connect the arms with the body and it locks them in this very position. If I wanted to attach them at a higher point, I would have to remove the joints on all bodies first and I think it's very unlikely that Mantic really wanted the customers to do that...

In addition: All official pictures from Mantic Games show the exact same pose that we used in our review, so we definitely built them 100% correct.

**Da Boss**

Well, I took the plunge and ordered one of each gift pack. We'll see what I get (please not elves, please not elves)

**heartserenade**

Do you guys think that the guys from Mantic are reading this thread?

If so: Mantic, there is a severe lack of plastic female military/soldier figures and if you produce these they will sell like pancakes, or one gallon of Devlan Mud. The rebel line could have such models, since I think lots of the rebels wouldn't wear uniform anyway so the figures can look more feminine. And I think that line can make a fine balance between feminine AND realistic and not sexist, just like Zoey in Firefly:

Doesn't have to be an all female army, but gender diversity in the ranks would be wonderful. And again, it's something a lot of hobbyist would buy and that GW does not fill that part of a hobbyist's heart.

**Mad4Minis**

plastictrees wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Pacific wrote:

I don't know why it continues to surprise me, but man GW's 'heroic scale' sculpting is ridiculous looking!

It isn't bad within the range as a whole, but when you see them next to 'more realistically proportioned' miniatures that are allegedly in the same scale... wow!

I guess I'm not seeing any "more realistically proportioned" miniatures in that picture. Differently unrealistically proportioned, sure, but I don't really buy the Corporations emaciated shock troopers waddling towards me like they've peed their pants.

The Mantic guys do seem to have equally...off...proportions. Many of the arms seem too long and thin. The poses...many of them look strange. Overall I dont like the minis much at all.

**MDizzle**

If the Rebs are going to be space hippies then I want my commander to be the DUDE!

**Kepora**

Personally, I want to see some close-ups of the Veer-men. If they were AREN'T the monkey-faced 90's skaven but in space, I may use htem for my planned traitor guard...

**Pacific**

heartserenade wrote:Do you guys think that the guys from Mantic are reading this thread?

I'm not sure about here, but there is a guy from Mantic who regularly posts on Warseer (they have a dedicated Mantic section, so correspondingly it is a lot more active).

Also, on the Mantic forums there are a couple of staff. Lots of 'what would you guys like to see next' kinds of posts, I think it's great to have that level of customer interaction.

**RatBot**

Well, the Veer-myn list is out!

Unfortunately, no one around here seems interested in playing Warpath, though some people I know really like the models (one guy is even gonna buy a bunch of Corporation use to as IG). Since I must have these Veer-myn, and I hate buying models I'll never use in a game, I'm trying to decide what to do with them.

Orks? IG? It looks like, with minimal conversion, there's a Veermyn unit that could be used to represent every unit from the Ork Codex except Killa Kanz, buggies, Deffkoptas, and grotz. Gougers and Nytemares=Nobz, Stalkers=Kommandos and Slugga Boyz, Stormboyz or Bikers with some conversion, Nightcrawlers=Shoota Boyz and with some conversion they could be Flash Gitz or Lootaz, Tunnler=Trukk, Driller-Crawler=Battlewagon, heavily converted Terror=Deffdred... Hmm... Hmm, indeed. I could always find other companies' models to fill in the empty spots, or even kitbash some other Mantic kits.

**AlexHolker**

heartserenade wrote:Do you guys think that the guys from Mantic are reading this thread?

If so: Mantic, there is a severe lack of plastic female military/soldier figures and if you produce these they will sell like pancakes, or one gallon of Devlan Mud. The rebel line could have such models, since I think lots of the rebels wouldn't wear uniform anyway so the figures can look more feminine. And I think that line can make a fine balance between feminine AND realistic and not sexist, just like Zoey in Firefly:

http://therealrebeccadiamond.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/zoe1.jpg

Doesn't have to be an all female army, but gender diversity in the ranks would be wonderful. And again, it's something a lot of hobbyist would buy and that GW does not fill that part of a hobbyist's heart.

Heh, good luck. I was arguing the same thing for quite a while, but gave up after it became clear they don't give a damn. You might want to have a look at Defiance Games instead - they're months behind schedule, but at least we know they want to make plastic female USMC instead of just another sausagefest.

@Ratbot: The Tunneler and Driller-Crawler cannot be represented by the models you suggest. The Tunneler has no carrying capacity and no weapon except for its ram, and the Driller-Crawler is immobile. For the latter, I'd actually suggest building a big, orky drop pod.

**Pacific**

AlexHolker wrote:
heartserenade wrote:Do you guys think that the guys from Mantic are reading this thread?

If so: Mantic, there is a severe lack of plastic female military/soldier figures and if you produce these they will sell like pancakes, or one gallon of Devlan Mud. The rebel line could have such models, since I think lots of the rebels wouldn't wear uniform anyway so the figures can look more feminine. And I think that line can make a fine balance between feminine AND realistic and not sexist, just like Zoey in Firefly:

http://therealrebeccadiamond.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/zoe1.jpg

Doesn't have to be an all female army, but gender diversity in the ranks would be wonderful. And again, it's something a lot of hobbyist would buy and that GW does not fill that part of a hobbyist's heart.

Heh, good luck. I was arguing the same thing for quite a while, but gave up after it became clear they don't give a damn.

Alex, please correct me if I'm wrong, didn't they specifically change a rule in one of the games because you (and perhaps someone else?) suggested it ?

**AlexHolker**

Pacific wrote:Alex, please correct me if I'm wrong, didn't they specifically change a rule in one of the games because you (and perhaps someone else?) suggested it ?

So they took advantage of one of my bug reports during their public beta, whoop-de-fething-do. How is that relevant to my statement that despite my efforts to drum up support for new and interesting plastic kits, Mantic has expressed no interest in stepping out of GW's rut and providing plastic support for the neglected half of the population?

**Pacific**

Erm... ok sorry... I'll go now ..

**scarletsquig**

Sketch of what looks like a turret for a Corporation vehicle spotted on the homepage:

Looks like it's being designed to fit with the existing heavy weapons.

**Rolt**

Looks like a promising little turret design (of what little I can see), I hope its for some sort of tank or APC and not that horribly generic humvee they previewed ages ago.

**Some_Call_Me_Tim?**

I wish Mantic had gone for something a little more original than "Veer-Myn". They seem to be just Skaven in space.

Still, they should be a way to provide cheap Skaven for Fantasy players, so all is not lost.

_Tim?

**LunaHound**

Alpharius wrote:
Pacific wrote:

I don't know why it continues to surprise me, but man GW's 'heroic scale' sculpting is ridiculous looking!

It isn't bad within the range as a whole, but when you see them next to 'more realistically proportioned' miniatures that are allegedly in the same scale... wow!

Welcome to my world,
and to make it worse, im not a GW fan, so every flaw sticks out like a sore thumb

**Kepora**

Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:I wish Mantic had gone for something a little more original than "Veer-Myn". They seem to be just Skaven in space.

Still, they should be a way to provide cheap Skaven for Fantasy players, so all is not lost.

_Tim?

Hush, you. They already took away my hrud and gave us those...things in Xenology, so something that's cheaper and easier to convert than Clanrats for my traitor guard force I'm planning would be welcome...

**Fenriswulf**

Very excited about the turret. Have a bunch of scale models I will be using to proxy as IG vehicles, and a modular turret for that would be excellent.

Hoping they actually do tanks and APC's for the Corporation, that would be even better, but we'll see how the turret progresses.

**Hoarmurel**

Will nobody post the images of the space ska... i mean, the veermyn?

Well, i'll do it, hoping there is not anything wrong... From the veermyn dossier that Mantic sent. Pics are terribles... People of Mantic should start think on buy a new camera, or try to learn to use the one they have...

A pair more on this link.

Cheers

**Kepora**

Top one? Meh. Bottom one? Yes please!

**insaniak**

Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:I wish Mantic had gone for something a little more original than "Veer-Myn". They seem to be just Skaven in space.

Given that they launched their sci-fi range with space dwarves, I don't think originality is what they are aiming for so much as filling some of those gaps that some gamers have been asking for for years.

I'd be all over these, if they didn't look so awkward. As is, though, it appears to be yet another range from Mantic that just doesn't quite hit the mark. These and the Corporation minis have some excellent design work, and I really want to like the models, but the awkward posing really kills it for me.

**Rolt**

Well those veer'myn look better than the first previews, still ugly as sin faces... and not in the good way either. The face on the thrid guy at least looks a little better, I like oversized drill thingy as well.

I wonder how those drills swords are meant to work and why do space rats living in starships carry so much mining equipmeant and have steampunk clothes?

**scarletsquig**

I've added the Veermyn army list to the Battlescribe files linked in my sig if anyone want to play around with an army list.

**AgeOfEgos**

insaniak wrote:
I'd be all over these, if they didn't look so awkward. As is, though, it appears to be yet another range from Mantic that just doesn't quite hit the mark. These and the Corporation minis have some excellent design work, and I really want to like the models, but the awkward posing really kills it for me.

Seconded. At first, I thought it was simply the lack of heroic scale (Or at least he exaggeration of GW heroic scale) that was throwing me--but I cannot get behind the Corporation miniatures--the bowed legs, shoulder/arms--just looks off.

**Kroothawk**

Hoarmurel wrote: Will nobody post the images of the space ska... i mean, the veermyn?

Maybe no Mantic fan wanted to admit that these stained blurry pics with pen markings in cheap paper terrain are Mantic's idea of professional marketing

**Fenriswulf**

They need some professional painters to paint their stuff, and a professional photographer to take the best pictures of it as possible.

The same thing happened with their Kings of War line, making it hard to actually see what you were buying because of the distance and style of the shot. This is the same.

Not so much a fan of the underslung drill on the arm, but that's just a personal preference.

**Pacific**

I think the painting is fine (minus small mistakes, like giving the Corporation turn-ups), but I agree the photography could do with a bit of help.

I think a lot of people really like that they show what is coming prior to release, and it's great to be able to plan purchases ahead, and of course really exciting to see the new minis. But, I think it still needs some fine tuning.

**Kroothawk**

But if you want to introduce a new race with a box set in Space Corridors, why base the miniatures with gravel and grass?
I am starting to believe that Mantic has a secret death wish, because everytime they have to make a decision, they don't take the no-brainer obvious one but the WTF one.