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 Grundz wrote:

Cronch wrote:

 Grundz wrote:
Right, if she was a support model like a dialogus or something, sure.

But cannoness is the biggest beatstick we have she should be chunky and meaner, not weighed down with religious stuff

The repentias look too utilitarian! They need to be more gothic!
But the Canoness looks too gothic, she should be more utilitarian! Despite having the same amount of garbage on her as a Chaplain,and serving almost the same function.

Today I learned Gothic = looking like the pope on pageant day

it's what passes for gothic in 40k. Nothing like real medieval Gothic of course, but it's not my fault "sticking bits and bobs of church masonry on armor" has been GW' default art style for "gothic future"

kurhanik wrote:
Other than the collar, I like it. My one major issue is the fact that unless the kit comes with an extra non-bionic leg, every single Canoness (that isn't a conversion) will have had the same leg amputated at some point in their life.

Perhaps it is time to end the Apirant Canoness Rite of Leg-Sheddening.

*burns as heretic*

This is absolutely what I'm looking for in sisters. Lady space pope.

Cronch wrote:

 Grundz wrote:

Cronch wrote:

 Grundz wrote:
Right, if she was a support model like a dialogus or something, sure.

But cannoness is the biggest beatstick we have she should be chunky and meaner, not weighed down with religious stuff

The repentias look too utilitarian! They need to be more gothic!
But the Canoness looks too gothic, she should be more utilitarian! Despite having the same amount of garbage on her as a Chaplain,and serving almost the same function.

Today I learned Gothic = looking like the pope on pageant day

it's what passes for gothic in 40k. Nothing like real medieval Gothic of course, but it's not my fault "sticking bits and bobs of church masonry on armor" has been GW' default art style for "gothic future"

Its GW's idea/representation of Gothic, not real Gothic, more like the diet coke of Gothic.

I like it, it show a face that's seen horrors unknowable, burned heretics & xenos alike by the score and is the Leader both spiritually and militarily of hundreds of Sororitas.

Her Armour shows her status and I think it's just the right balance of bling to function.

 EnTyme wrote:
"Too much bling to be effective in combat" seems like an odd complaint for a 40k model regardless of faction. That's kind of what this game is known for.

There's different kinds of bling, good and bad. The metal canonness has a big fur collar and flaming braziers. Nothing that would obviously severely hinder her movement in combat as long as you don't think too hard about it. If new canonness swings too quickly in one direction shes going to smack herself in the face with one of those censers or tangle them up.

Again, I don't dislike the model, I just don't feel like it works as a canonness.

 EnTyme wrote:
"Too much bling to be effective in combat" seems like an odd complaint for a 40k model regardless of faction. That's kind of what this game is known for.

Not in any of my armies.

I like most of it. The sword is a nice departure from typical marine swords (yes yes they’re not marines but older models have had the same kind of T crossguards). I do not like the head. I have no idea why. I don’t particularly like the head sculpting on the old canoness model. I suppose I’ll put a helmet on her if I get one.

"A Canoness is armed with a Plasma Pistol, Master-Crafted Power Sword, Staff of the Ecclesiarchy, Frag and Krak Grenades... and nothing else... ever... because that's all our mono-pose miniature has. Suck it."

big fur collar and flaming braziers

What could possibly go wrong

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"A Canoness is armed with a Plasma Pistol, Master-Crafted Power Sword, Staff of the Ecclesiarchy, Frag and Krak Grenades... and nothing else... ever... because that's all our mono-pose miniature has. Suck it."

That would kill any excitement, just like it did for Primaris. Fingers crossed it doesn’t happen.

Cronch wrote:

big fur collar and flaming braziers

What could possibly go wrong

That would depend on what space animal the fur came from. Maybe it's something that's flame retardant.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"A Canoness is armed with a Plasma Pistol, Master-Crafted Power Sword, Staff of the Ecclesiarchy, Frag and Krak Grenades... and nothing else... ever... because that's all our mono-pose miniature has. Suck it."

Not true. We'll likely have 4-5 alternate HQ or Elite character types to choose from.

Frankly though, I just don't care about the lack of weapon choices based on models. The units get whittled down to the most efficient by the tournament crowd and that funnels down to casuals as the "you'd be stupid to take anything but this" default choice.

So why bother with options, when everyone will only take 1 choice per unit anyway. That's a cynical take, but that's what net lists have done to the game.

 Mmmpi wrote:

Cronch wrote:

big fur collar and flaming braziers

What could possibly go wrong

That would depend on what space animal the fur came from. Maybe it's something that's flame retardant.

Mane of a Leo'nid from Nocturne perhaps?

Or Tsuvatian Flame Fox from Mordarda.

I don't like the collar either, but that is easy to fix. Otherwise she looks excellent.

However, I really wish Sisters get new HQs. This Canoness looks like some super high ranking supreme leader, and it would be weird to have more than one in the army. There needs to be a more practical lower ranking variant.

Without the Collar I really like her. I like the face, the rest just supports that.

I can live with this. I don't like the collar at all because of the GSC similarities and is what immediately popped into my min the instant I saw it.
Longer robes, more beads, cowl/habit thing, like it. Old face is good just for variety- she obviously only uses juvenat treatment to prolong her life and not her looks like the other Cannoness.

The tassle things on front look a bit much to me. Hopefully they're separate and can experiment with placements.
Don't want plasma. Really hope there's options from the holy trinity for her.

Aside from the collar, my biggest issue is with that sword. It just doesn't look right. It's about as big as her yet only single handed hilt and just looks so....plain. Maybe some paint will fix that.

She's acceptable. More of a parade ground or formal function Cannoness than a front line fighter.

Is that a straight on shot of the Canoness head in the bottom left of the Sororitas head render preview?

 Melissia wrote:
Hope that comes with a helmet, and more customization options. I'll be disappointed if it's a limited sprue.

I'd assume she was a fair number of parts. Since I can't imagine they make her only with the option of a cybernetic leg. The Kharadron Overlords Thunderer have a Sgt. with the option of a leg swap.


While the collar is likely one piece the censors are likely a separate bit.


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I really like the model, but honestly she looks more like an Abbess than a Canoness. Sepaking of new characters I expect a return of the Palatine.

 dracpanzer wrote:
Is that a straight on shot of the Canoness head in the bottom left of the Sororitas head render preview?

It certainly looks like it.

I'm okay with Gothic Bling, and an older Cannoness, but hate the logistics of that Rod of Office. How do you draw your pistol? Just drop the rod on the ground? Tuck it under your sword arm? Does it have a strap attached so you can sling it across your back?

Plus, the sword looks way too big to be used one-handed, but the hilt is too short for two hands.

Would have been a much better model, IMHO, with a longer hilt on the sword, and a free hand, or a short Scepter of Office with a reliquary sheath.

It's plastic everyone, you can convert it to be whatever you like... As Sisters players this should be a no brainer after working on metal models for 20+ years.

Da Butcha wrote:
I'm okay with Gothic Bling, and an older Cannoness, but hate the logistics of that Rod of Office. How do you draw your pistol? Just drop the rod on the ground? Tuck it under your sword arm? Does it have a strap attached so you can sling it across your back?

Plus, the sword looks way too big to be used one-handed, but the hilt is too short for two hands.

Would have been a much better model, IMHO, with a longer hilt on the sword, and a free hand, or a short Scepter of Office with a reliquary sheath.

Magnetically attaches to the back of her armour?

(1) The collar is terrible. Looks like someone forgot to finish the sculpt and/or was having a laugh. It’s so obviously bad, it’s shocking whoever is running design let this out the door. This ridiculous fiasco of drip-drop previewing Sisters better actually allow GW to listen to fans, as promised, and make edits because this thing has to go.

(2) This is more a matter of taste, but I think the designer has swung too hard toward Ecclesiarchy/Ministorum priest here and lost the plot as to this being a Battle Sister. The “rod of office” is too much. No self-respecting canoness would be bothered with a wizard staff.

(3) I am not a fan of the old lady face. It’s fine and nothing I’d riot over but I’d prefer a less matronly appearance. Somebody in design has been watching too much Call The Midwife.

Personally I'm not really a fan of this cannoness. The collar is far too reminiscent of genestealer cult to me and the overall outfit is too decorative. Like it'd be well in place as she's giving her sermons at the church but on the battlefield? I much prefer the old cannoness with the fur collar and eviscerator. Also not a fan at all of HQs holding "rods of command" or whatever. I want my badass battle leader to be mid slice with their weapons or charging the frontline or something... waving their fancy stick around is not a cool pose. I like the face and what bit of armour you see under the ceremonial stuff but sadly. What's worse is that knowing GW since this will likely be a mono-build model that fancy stick with likely be stock loadout and the option for a sweet eviscerator may not be possible.

Oh and that peaking plasma gun? Yeah no. First of all this is SoB, Holy Trinity or bust, get that plasma junk outta here. Bolt pistol, Hand Flamer or Inferno Pistol, those should be the options. And until GW changes plasma to be a MW on the wielder instead of an insta-gib I certainly am not giving my leaders these time-bombs.

Sadly I'm going to chalk this model up as a fail in my opinion. Shame since I've really liked all they've shown to this point.

I think the elderly head nun is a breath of fresh air. It certainly wasn't what I was expecting, and that's a good thing IMO.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I think the elderly head nun is a breath of fresh air. It certainly wasn't what I was expecting, and that's a good thing IMO.

This.

Also I’m really liking the amount, of stuff on her, she looks beautifully 40k and over the top. I didn’t like the Sisters Repentia, but I’m loving this Canoness. My only problem is similar to what’s mentioned above, where she has too many things and not enough hands or holsters.

Da Butcha wrote:
I'm okay with Gothic Bling, and an older Cannoness, but hate the logistics of that Rod of Office. How do you draw your pistol? Just drop the rod on the ground? Tuck it under your sword arm? Does it have a strap attached so you can sling it across your back?

Plus, the sword looks way too big to be used one-handed, but the hilt is too short for two hands.

Would have been a much better model, IMHO, with a longer hilt on the sword, and a free hand, or a short Scepter of Office with a reliquary sheath.

They have power armor. They can handle huge swords with one hand.

It boggles the mind that she has a plasma rather than an Inferno pistol. No self respecting canoness would be caught without one of the Emperors holiest pistols.

Why wouldnt she be able to handle that power sword just fine, if she couldn't, she wouldnt use one.

Whats with the hate for plasma pistols? Sistes in a commanding position have always used them.