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Dude, I'm a Space Wolf player, how do you think I feel?!

Agamemnon2 wrote:I'm hoping they won't give this to all Marine armies, actually. For one thing, I don't think it'd be fair to Blood Angels players to have their unique toy diluted like that, and I don't think Codex Marines need any more ways of getting quickly into the fray, so the model does not fill a tactical gap (for GK I'd argue it does, since they don't have drop pods for their line infantry, or Scouts infiltrating teleport homers).

Yeah, but let's face it, that's how GW rolls. LRC, anyone?

Since new pics of the sprues are coming out, i figured i'd colate the old pics of various photoshop conversions of the kit from the previous thread to give others who hold the view that this is an ugly, ugly bird some ideas for conversions. happy plastic trimming time!

Considering they FAQ's in the new pattern Land Raiders for Space Wolves when the latest Codex: Marines came out, I would hardly say it's out of the question they'd retcon this into all the other chapters. It's just a matter of how and when.

MajorTom11's for sure

hungryp wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:I'm hoping they won't give this to all Marine armies, actually. For one thing, I don't think it'd be fair to Blood Angels players to have their unique toy diluted like that, and I don't think Codex Marines need any more ways of getting quickly into the fray, so the model does not fill a tactical gap (for GK I'd argue it does, since they don't have drop pods for their line infantry, or Scouts infiltrating teleport homers).

Yeah, but let's face it, that's how GW rolls. LRC, anyone?

LRC was originally in a campaign book, for an army that was extremely popular and then put in with the standard Marine 'dex until they got their very own "Codex: Black Templars" some years later..

So the LRC is kind of an extreme example.

Color me interested. WIll be picking one up, and just finding a way to fix the top part of the craft. The turret area is the only thing that looks funny to me.

hungryp wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:I'm hoping they won't give this to all Marine armies, actually. For one thing, I don't think it'd be fair to Blood Angels players to have their unique toy diluted like that, and I don't think Codex Marines need any more ways of getting quickly into the fray, so the model does not fill a tactical gap (for GK I'd argue it does, since they don't have drop pods for their line infantry, or Scouts infiltrating teleport homers).

Yeah, but let's face it, that's how GW rolls. LRC, anyone?

Yeah, that's why all armies now have access to Ork Stompas in regular games ... wait!

Despite the fact I don't have a good BA list with them in, I think the model has potential. Take off the top-turret and the tail, plasticard the back up a bit and it could look great

Slinky wrote:Makes me wonder if they will open it up to all chapters, or just keep it BA/GK only.

It's bizarre that it has Chapter symbols for only two Chapters. Chapter-specific kits aren't exactly a new concept - there are heaps of them already - but for a kit to just have two Chapters included is very odd. I would have at least thought the kit would be like the Land Speeder and Drop Pod and contain a few symbols for the standard Chapters (Ultramarines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves) with GK's added in for flavour.

Perhaps they'll do an upgrade kit for £15

jimbo1701 over at Warseer made some comments on the sprue pics, putting names to all parts:

Those landing gear pistons are rather massive.

And lo, with the Stormraven's release...

The Tau Empire have lost the Landing Gear Wars.

Well hey, looks like all the weapon options are there. Can't complain about that.

still not sold on how the back goes together.

looks like I may just pick up one for shuttle conversions/ podracers.

the seats look nice though and plasma cannons are alaways good for me to have lying around.

my veiws on this model have increaced to 6/10

Not convinced those are part of the landing gear. Is it not described as having a clamp to hold the Dread in place? Door as labelled is too small for a Dread, so I reckon it's a magnetic clamp for the Dreadnought.

Anyone have a clue on release date? I know there's a "flyer WD special", but which month is that?

GW has been holding out on us. Those sprues say 2010. Also, the BS missile rear is probably the multi-meltas.

Up for Advance Order Wednesday apparently.

wow. 2 replies in about 10 seconds.
Wednesday?! That soon? I was thinking up for advance order march-time!
I'll be ordering one in a week or two.

I would go with rear gear is for dreadnought, however how they hold the dreadnought in still a mistery, maby someone with a dreadnought could take a look at the model to see it it would fit anywhere?

warboss wrote:Since new pics of the sprues are coming out, i figured i'd colate the old pics of various photoshop conversions of the kit from the previous thread to give others who hold the view that this is an ugly, ugly bird some ideas for conversions. happy plastic trimming time!

I'm not sure any of them are really much of an improvement on or noteworthy departure from the original.

I actually like the original, and I like some of the conversions well enough, but in essence they are all blocky and pretty much the same as the original.

If I had to pick one to replace the original it would be the bottom right one as it looks the most like the blocky aesthetic of space marines; sort of reminds me of a mini Thunderhawk.


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Miss Dee wrote:Perhaps they'll do an upgrade kit for £15

GENIUS!!!

This model is kind of cool. I really like the dreadnoughts.

It would be a great looking model if it wasn't so fugly.

Necros wrote:It would be a great looking model if it wasn't so fugly.

That makes no sense. "It would look good if it didn't look so bad"

Y'know, I actually kinda like it. A bit o' spring cleaning here and there, and it could make a lovely, larger, and probably cheaper, version of Forgeworlds Arvus Liter. Or a similar shuttle of somesuch. Which I do like the idea of.

CT GAMER wrote:

warboss wrote:Since new pics of the sprues are coming out, i figured i'd colate the old pics of various photoshop conversions of the kit from the previous thread to give others who hold the view that this is an ugly, ugly bird some ideas for conversions. happy plastic trimming time!

I'm not sure any of them are really much of an improvement on or noteworthy departure from the original.

I actually like the original, and I like some of the conversions well enough, but in essence they are all blocky and pretty much the same as the original.

If I had to pick one to replace the original it would be the bottom right one as it looks the most like the blocky aesthetic of space marines; sort of reminds me of a mini Thunderhawk.

yeah, i remember you in the "pro" camp in that thread. in the end, it's a style opinion so there isn't a technical right answer. i like using official models (also because my plasticard-fu is week beyond an occasional floor or strut) and i'll pick up a single model for conversion. i'll probably liberally borrow ideas from all the versions i reposted... i'll lower the engines to flush with the top, use the lascannons without the servitor turret to resemble other marine vehicle remote turrets, straighten out the tail to resemble a thunderhawk's more, and trim down that huge intake behind the turret to just the small part on top.

edit: i get the feeling that the hurricane bolter sponsons will look very bulky compared to the small central transport frame but, ruleswise, is a must if you're kitting the bird out for anti-infantry.

If anyone has trouble seeing the pictures I upload the sprue pics into the gallery.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-518-1484_Sprues.html

Up for advance order Wednesday? That's exciting. I might put an order in for three for the future GK release.