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OMG! Wonder whats gonna be in the black box. How much do you think they will reveal in white dwarf?

How much do they usually reveal in White Dwarf? The issue just before the release reveals a lot, the issues before that usually nothing except reminders about the release month.

BrassScorpion wrote:How much do they usually reveal in White Dwarf? The issue just before the release reveals a lot, the issues before that usually nothing except reminders about the release month.

Considering it's White Dwarf, I expect it to be "check the website constantly because w'll put another teaser up for next months WD real soon."


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Tomb King wrote:Apparently there have been too many horror movies lately and people just arent afraid of the undead anymore. Damn you hollywood and damn you gw for watching those movies! In a world of terrors a regular empire soldier looks at the undead and scoffs. whats next models will get Atsknf

I can't believe you went and put that idea out there willingly knowing that Matt "Herpaderpadoo" Ward is writing codexes and army books.

Worglock wrote:"Herpaderpadoo"

Really?

Yea really.
I mean seriously.

8 pages and no real worthy pics... why didnt reds8n put his own thread out of its misery?

TBD wrote:

Worglock wrote:"Herpaderpadoo"

Really?

Yes.

GW updated their Incoming: Tomb Kings web article yesterday so that it bears a Monday, March 28 date at the link box in the lower right on the website home page.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?aId=14300091a

Robin Cruddace is the army books author

I miss the old Undead, Mr. Nagash was fun to drop on the living.

The fugliest evil clown in the galaxy

I still have mine. I may convert him into something playable some day

They added the following text to the incoming article:

With the Tomb Kings stirring from their ancient slumbers we decided it was time to prise open the skull-adorned sarcophagus in the Design Studio and awaken the mummified corpse of the new book's author, Robin Cruddace, to share with us a few words on why the Tomb Kings are one of his favourite armies. From his cadaverous lips he thusly spake:

I've been a fan of the Undead ever since the days of the Citadel Skeleton Army box, but when they were split into two separate forces, my desiccated heart was firmly with the vengeful Tomb Kings of Nehekhara. There's so much about the Tomb Kings I find fascinating; their blood-soaked history, their obsession with death and the fantastical landscape of Nehekhara - the fabled Land of the Dead itself. However, the armies of Tomb Kings have enthralled me because they are made not of tribes, or hordes, or mobs, but legions. The very word conjures up images in my mind of a vast number of disciplined soldiers, all advancing to war in perfect stride to conquer their foes for the greater glory of Nehekhara. Indeed, the eternal legions of the Tomb Kings comprise rank upon rank of skeletal soldiers - great phalanxes of gleaming bone decorated with bronze and gold - regiments of Undead cavalry and gilded chariots, mummified heroes and immortal kings, and towering war-statues carved in the images of mythical monsters and ancient gods. Come May, the Tomb Kings will awaken once again. They are the true monarchs of the dead, and they are coming to reclaim their rightful dominion over the world.

Robin-hotep, Scribe of the Desert

If that's got you excited about the Tomb Kings and you want to start collecting a legion of your own, or if you want to add to your existing army in preparation for May's reinforcements, just click on any of the links below.

Then follows a list of all three plastic boxes, Khalida, the Tomb King on Foot and the Lich Priest mounted and on foot, indirectly confirming that all are in the army book and all receive no new models.

If they wanna "get us excited about the tomb kings", they better start showing some pics of new models. Like now.

If they wanna "get us excited about the tomb kings", they better start showing some pics of new models. Like now.

Oh, the irony! The fact that people are demanding pictures provides fairly reliable proof they're already excited about Tomb Kings.

I'm not excited, I'm bummed.. I sold my army about a year ago, now I regret it. Oh well

BrassScorpion wrote:

If they wanna "get us excited about the tomb kings", they better start showing some pics of new models. Like now.

Oh, the irony! The fact that people are demanding pictures provides fairly reliable proof they're already excited about Tomb Kings.

I think most of the people who were waiting with bated breath have died of asphyxiation. GW needs a winner in this book, as the Orc and Goblin book was underwhelming. We should know more later this week.

GW needs a winner in this book, as the Orc and Goblin book was underwhelming

Sadly, tons of cool ideas get nixed by the managing editors before a book is finished. I guess management just doesn't want to have to support too many new and wacky fun ideas and production costs for new ideas always have to be considered. That process certainly must come into play on every new army book and Codex to one degree or another. Still, the new Savage Orc models and Arachnarok are really great looking stuff, which is good considering how expensive they are!

I'm not an orc player, and doubt I will be, but I liked what the did with the book itself, hardback and all. So far it's been enjoyable to read. It's the first army book I ever got for an army I won't play.. in fact I got it just because the hardback books make me wanna collect em.

I'm sure they'll do a good job with tomb kings.

Kroothawk's Rumor Compilation wrote:I've been told that one of the new incantations passes the bearers WS to a friendly unit. (especially good when combined with WS10 swords). (...)

Can't complain here. Makes more sense than for regular undead IMO, no less, as Tomb Kings should have the capability to return troops beyond WS2.

Kroothawk's Rumor Compilation wrote:Each unit will get the normal unit command and the option to take a lesser priest as another command that can cast specific spells on his unit.

Mixed on this. Sounds sort-of like some of the War of the Ring upgrades (which isn't necessarily bad by any mean), but not quite sure how they'll justify a Priest for every unit / that much DD / PD generation potential...

Kroothawk's Rumor Compilation wrote:They are getting their own normal magic lore that will be Sun based. The big spell is a blackening of the sun which will cause charging issues maybe only a d6 instead of 2, a negative to leadership across the board, negatives to shooting both ballistic skill style and war machines similar to the stormbanner.

You've heard me before on this: Dislike it. Tomb Kings don't miscast. :(

Kroothawk's Rumor Compilation wrote:Don't know if its been put up yet but a chariot type in each section, core special and rare.

Can't particularly complain here, lots of people've been wanting an all-chariot army.

I'm mixed over the new book, but then I'm mixed in general. I had very high expectations for the OnG book, it came out... and, while not really a "bad" book, I was underwhelmed considering the hype made. The price changes to Orc Boyz and gutted Magic Item section did not make things much better to me (The loss of an Orc Miscast Table was more lamented than the loss of Waaagh!, but making a standard Boyz mob $75-ish each instead of about $52 each is a nasty price hike). This could be a nice book, but it could also be a flop. Sorry TKers, but - while I hope it's a nice book - I have to hope you're stuck with only 5-10 magic items yourself too. I don't want GW to drop the small magic item selection direction one book in (even though I know it'll be dropped by the time Bretonnians, Vamps, or anyone with "Vows" / "Bloodlines" comes out as they cheat around that limitation).

Rumor Round-up -

Tomb Kings released in May.
Army book will be in hardback, significantly fatter, more colorful, but more expensive, much the same as the O&G army book.
It is being written by Robin Cruddance, not familiar with GW names so not sure if that is good or bad.
Expect a week sometime in April all dedicated to Tomb Kings on the website, much like the Dark Eldar Week.

On the Models -

New Lich Priest and Tomb King blisters, likely both mounted and on foot. Maybe a new Tomb king on chariot box if horses are re-done.
A host of new special characters, including several new large mounts for Priests and Kings, rumored to be a construct and a huge carrion/flaming mount as an upgrade.
New Icon Bearer hero, on foot and mounted.
Chariots and Horsemen may be new depending on whether horses are re-sculpted, although not likely.
No new core skellies in the first wave, if they are redone, expect a 10 model box with a simple re-sculpt of the Vampire Counts box.
New Core, probably Mummies, 10 per box.
It's fairly safe to say there will be a plastic Tomb Guard box, 10 models including full command.
New special, likely light skirmisher Infantry, named along the lines of "Sand Stalkers".
Plastic Tomb Scorpion box, very customizable, probably include two re-sculpts in a box, similar to Chaos Spawn.
New Ushabti, 3 Plastic in a box, like Kroxigar or Minotaurs.
New plastic Screaming Skull Catapult, maybe a hybrid plastic box, where there are two builds, Catapult and an Alter of some kind.
Shinx is a near definite, maybe a plastic box or blister depending on size. May possibly be customized as either a caster or combat build.
New plastic Bone Giant, likely highly positionable.
Perhaps an entirely new unit in rare taking the form of an alter named along the lines of an Obelisk, mainly a buffer unit, taken as an upgrade for a Lich Priest, which may be the other option in the Screaming Skull kit.

Obviously these will be spread out across multiple waves, however GW needs to put Sphinx and Tomb Guard out first wave to get people excited.

Wave 1 - Army Book. New Ushabti, Bone Giant, Sphinx, Tomb Guard, new Core, one, possibly two special characters. - May
Wave 1.5 - One, possibly two special characters. New Scorpions, I would like to see some other new small unit in here as well - September
Wave 2 - More special characters, Catapult hybrid, new special skirmishers, new mounts for Lich Priests, new horsemen and chariots. - March/April (Hopefully about a year after Wave 1)
Wave 2.5 - Last special character, new core skellies, new Tomb Swarm. - Summer 2012 or early Autumn.

I'm not so much a gamer so I'll leave someone else to sum up the rule changes.
The Chariots themselves and the people who ride the horses aren't too bad, however the horses really need better sculpts. I'm quite excited about an update to Tomb Kings and have been waiting for their renewal. The only unit I have atm. are two boxes of core skellies (anticipating a price rise and a box size reduction) but I assume that horses are on a different sprue in their boxes so it shouldn't take too much to re-sculpt them and change the sprues when they are released. Not sure if it was a mistake or the computer I'm typing this on is slow, but yesterday the current style box art was posted on the unit descriptions. I only really just realized right now what this could mean. Only Core skellies and chariots had new box art, so whether it's a mistake or not, this could mean that neither will receive new models this wave.

Well, it is Robin Cruddace.
And all current core plastics get no new models in the near future, just a repackage.
The Sphinx, if it comes, will certainly be a big kit, not a metal blister.

Other things I don't believe:
Lich Priest and Tomb King are presented in the "Incoming"--article as staying the same.
Not sure about the Skelleton Giant in the first wave.

Here the new box art of the current plastics:

Kroothawk wrote:Well, it is Robin Cruddace.
And all current core plastics get no new models in the near future, just a repackage.
The Sphinx, if it comes, will certainly be a big kit, not a metal blister.

Other things I don't believe:
Lich Priest and Tomb King are presented in the "Incoming"--article as staying the same.
Not sure about the Skelleton Giant in the first wave.

Here the new box art of the current plastics:

any change to the numbers per box? i didn't know the previous figuires

I'm massively looking forward to seeing the new figures. I've been a Warhammer spectator for six months now, just waiting for the right army to arrive for me to start spending!

TK seem cool, not only do I like the fluff, I like the undercoat/wash/drybrush potential of busting out a painted army quickly!

Any rumours on Nagash making a reappearance or has he been retconned completely?

Rumors about Nagash comeback circuit like from the 6ed.

Tomb Kings are also great for dipping if you want an army painted fast. I think I had my 2000 pt army done in like a week. I just sprayed em with bleached bone spray (back when you could get it, now you can use the Army Painter bone primer).. paint the metal parts and stuff real quick, dunk the in wood stain and shake off the excess, and you're done

Necros wrote:Tomb Kings are also great for dipping if you want an army painted fast. I think I had my 2000 pt army done in like a week. I just sprayed em with bleached bone spray (back when you could get it, now you can use the Army Painter bone primer).. paint the metal parts and stuff real quick, dunk the in wood stain and shake off the excess, and you're done

Totally going to try this. I hope when the cavalry figures are revealed the mounts look respectable, the current ones (old as they are) look awful.

Kroothawk wrote:Well, it is Robin Cruddace.
And all current core plastics get no new models in the near future, just a repackage.
The Sphinx, if it comes, will certainly be a big kit, not a metal blister.

Other things I don't believe:
Lich Priest and Tomb King are presented in the "Incoming"--article as staying the same.
Not sure about the Skelleton Giant in the first wave.

Here the new box art of the current plastics:

Sorry, Robin Cruddace, just got it into my head that was his name.

The Tomb Kings themselves I admit are OK, but I'd like new Lich Priests as they look quite old.

They may release the new models in only the first and second waves, maybe saving the re-sculpts for 1.5 and 2.5, but they need to drum up interest with a release this big. After all, it must be 10-11 years since last they visited Tomb Kings, and it's only the second Army book after 8th edition. This should be GW's first big release for 8th, as O&G was only a couple of supplement models.

One thing I'd like to add is that I'd like to see one or two other new models to continue with the new policy that GW seem to have which is adding a lot of different models to each army. Maybe a desert lizard unit or a halfway between bone giant and tomb guard taken in units of 10 max, more numerous than Ushabti but not as numerous as Tomb Guard.

Seems like the first BlackBoxes are hitting the stores.
themidget428 over at http://tomb-kings.net posted this:

Well ive got good news and bad news.

Bad news is, at least for the states (idk about elsewhere) but the tomb king codex got stuck in customs XD im guessing robin c was snortin some coke off the codexes. lmao

Good news is, though, my store(which is a factory store) got their Black box today. Containing 2 different sets.

and let me say, holy $*!t the sculps are beautiful.

one box had the snake guys in it. they come in sets o 3 and can be assembled 2 ways, The Necropolis Knights are effin skellys surfin on snakes. (hello heavy cav im assuming since we dont have a codex yet to base it on) the other ones are Sepulcher Stalkers, which are like giant lahmian creatures with big weapons. (think snake ushabti)
best part, i got to put one of the knights together.

the other one was da sphinx. as we thought it has 2 variants,
the Necrosphinx which is omfg super uber killy mcawesome. the other one is the warsphinx which like a stegadon has a howdah that can have 4 skellys on it or just a tomb king. idk what it does, but it as well looks sweet.

hopes this makes everyones day go by so much better.

BramBautn over at Warseer wrote:seems like the cats out of the bag for the snake riders, in which case I'll confirm that they do indeed exist.

Official pics tomorrow.

Im getting excited!

Pics from Hitsugaya Toshiru at warseer:

Group shot
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=108617&d=1302000981

Sphinx
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=108618&d=1302001566