Obsidian wrote:
I don't want to get in to a long discussion on this and take this thread OT but some of the sources you have cited have dubious merit and many are out right refuted.
It's a tough nut. In reality, any account can be challenged. The most famous of one I can recall off the top of my head was a refutation that Napoleon Bonaparte existed (and that he was, in fact, mythological), while he was still very much alive.
The problem is that there are only five accounts of Hattin. I used Imad al Din as he was actually present. Some of the refutations of the account are contradictory themselves, pointing out both that the Christians would not have recorded it as an embarrassment to them and in the same paragraph claiming they would have because it was unusual. The authors forget that you cannot have it both ways.
Personally, it would not surprise me if there were, as at least two of the orders mentioned to be present allowed women in their ranks. I would suggest that, as a specific number is not mentioned, it may be that a handful of women were present under arms.
It's sort of like machine guns used during the American Civil War. Most experts will swear on a stack of bibles that they were never used, but I can produce fifteen accounts of them being used in combat. Were they widespread or the norm? No. But they did exist.
However, I would suggest tha5t
PMs would be a better place to discuss this.