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H.B.M.C. wrote:

I tend not to read Sisters threads. They always tend to be the same. A whole lotta 'what about me!!!' going on...

You just couldn't leave it, could'ja? I mean I'm even discussing the rumours, and even then, ya had to cherry pick the one comment from the start and try and be cute about it. Well done.

ENOUGH.

I am a SoB player and fan. I am sick and tired of every thread about them dragged into being locked. I don't care who started it because I am finishing it. No more. At all. Suspensions to follow.

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Although I think the 'leaked screenshots' are bollocks, I am a big fan of Redemptionists. I hope they make it back into the real book. Heck, they can either rebox the old Red models or just officially say they look more like the Flagellants now.

OT: I LOVE the flagellants box. It is a badass plastic kit.

AlexHolker wrote:

Doop Dude wrote:"Infiltration"?

I assume it's to represent them "hiding in plain sight", not being distinguishable from civilians from a distance and thus not being treated as a high priority.

Not what I meant by having that in quotation marks. Since when has Infiltrators been called Infiltration? This is what mainly makes me call this a fake.

@Doop: Wolf Scouts. There's precedent.

I'm with you there Pretre.

I've got all the old Red models, the current Red models (which are great, if pricey), and about... oh... 60-ish Flagellant models converted over to 40K. Plus all the actual Priest/Missionary models GW has made. Even got the Mordheim Preacher. And the Ex-Illis Priests and converted them into Imperial Priests.

Seems I have a thing for the Ecclesiarchy.

lol. Okay, I'm not that hardcore.

I have about 60 of the 'old' Red models. Bitz ordered them back in the day for when you could field the 20 man mobs with 4 eviscerators.

Unfortunately, I just converted them all to guardsmen, so it will be just my luck if they bring them back and I have to rip off meltaguns and such. lol

I do have Kyrinov and Jacobus, some mordheim models for priests (they make such good count-as) and all that. They're making good PCS, CCS, Commissars and sgts in my guard as well. My poor guard army will fair poorly with a sisters reboot.

Doop Dude wrote:Not what I meant by having that in quotation marks. Since when has Infiltrators been called Infiltration? This is what mainly makes me call this a fake.

Well, there are these things called 'editors', and they're paid to catch little inconsitencies like that. That mistake alone isn't enough to point this out as a fake.

That's not to say that you're wrong, or even wrong for suspecting that or pointing it out, only that I don't think it's 'enough' to mark these pages out asinstant fakes.


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pretre wrote:lol. Okay, I'm not that hardcore.

Heh! Yeah well my group and I are kinda nuts. I've done whole 'Armies of Faith' for Apoc games. Loads of screaming idiots with flamer and meltaguns all commanded by various Priests. Total waste of space and never kill anything, but loads of fun!

We also play a lot of the 40KRPG's, Dark Heresy especially, so having all those Priests comes in handy. Hell, my players are right now on a Cathedral/Shrine World, so it makes even more sense. I'm using Kyrinov as one of the major NPC's.

Oh! Thought of another one - got two of the Warhammer Empire Wizard boxes, made one into a Cardinal, two into his bodyguards, and the fourth into a Daemonhost. So yeah, kinda crazy-obsessed with the Ecclesiarchy. And yet I own not a single Sisters model. Weird...

Besides plastic Sisters, I am most excited at the idea of Adeptus Arbites coming back into the mix. I am pretty skeptical about this actually happening but I do love them and could see a place for them.

I'm now torn. On one hand I've always liked the SoB and wanted a whole army full of church-tanks. On the other hand I want me necrons. Personally I hope we see no Inquisitorial units in the SoB book, instead focusing on Ecclesiarchal units.

If I had to guess, I'd guess that you'll see new crons a good piece before you see new sisters. Now, I say that without any insider information to back me up. Just my reasoning given the amount of work that I personally feel each faction would need to bring them up to a Codex-level release.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Personally I hope we see no Inquisitorial units in the SoB book, instead focusing on Ecclesiarchal units.

Why must the two be mutually exclusive?

They really shouldn't be. I think of Ordo Hereticus being much more actively involved in the wider Ecclesiarchy than the other Ordos are in the various departments of the Imperium.

Manchu wrote:They really shouldn't be. I think of Ordo Hereticus being much more actively involved in the wider Ecclesiarchy than the other Ordos are in the various departments of the Imperium.

It was my understanding that it was the other way around, that the Ecclesiarchy are involved in the Inquisition? There was that treaty, can't remember its name, that meant that SoB had to help out an Inquisitor if asked, which hinted that they were seperate bodies and the Ecclesiarchy were aiding the Ordo Hereticus, rather than visa versa (Not sure if that's the expression...)

Also, I don't suppose someone could explain to me the idea behind including Adeptus Arbites in 40K? As far as I can see, they're the police. Awesome police, but police nonetheless, and I don't see why they'd have a place in large-scale army games. I looked at them on Lexicanum and I still don't really get it... Not to say they SHOULDN'T be in, I just don't really get why they are. I thought they were reserved for offshoot games.

pretre wrote:@Doop: Wolf Scouts. There's precedent.

Wolf Scouts are down as Infiltrate.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Doop Dude wrote:Not what I meant by having that in quotation marks. Since when has Infiltrators been called Infiltration? This is what mainly makes me call this a fake.

Well, there are these things called 'editors', and they're paid to catch little inconsitencies like that. That mistake alone isn't enough to point this out as a fake.

That's not to say that you're wrong, or even wrong for suspecting that or pointing it out, only that I don't think it's 'enough' to mark these pages out asinstant fakes.

Ok, maybe some other, obscure rule, like Vulnerable to Templates, would be mistyped, but..... Infiltrate? Really? It shows up like 3 times in every Codex....

But yeah, I've always been one of those people who argues against something until undeniable proof is put before them, then they follow along happily. So I'm doubting for now, but if proof comes in....

Say those pages are true, though. I wonder who gets the copies of them and circulates them? Surely it'd be illegal?

so i think after gathering what ive seen from various sources, i think the next codex order will be:

GK (duh)
'Crons
DA
Tau
BT
sisters

and then i draw the line. Kill me for it i dont realy care, just my opinion.

Scarey Nerd wrote:Also, I don't suppose someone could explain to me the idea behind including Adeptus Arbites in 40K? As far as I can see, they're the police. Awesome police, but police nonetheless, and I don't see why they'd have a place in large-scale army games. I looked at them on Lexicanum and I still don't really get it... Not to say they SHOULDN'T be in, I just don't really get why they are. I thought they were reserved for offshoot games.

They are police that enforce laws like "the Planetary Governor will remain loyal to the Imperium". If cult activity gets out of hand or the Planetary Governor tries to secede, they are the ones who will ensure reinforcements from the Imperial Guard or Space Marine reinforcements arrive to retake the planet, and may have to stand against the entire PDF in the meantime.

bigmek35 wrote:so i think after gathering what ive seen from various sources...

Which sources posted evidence that the DA or BT are even being worked on?

Doop Dude wrote:

pretre wrote:@Doop: Wolf Scouts. There's precedent.

Wolf Scouts are down as Infiltrate.

Not inflitrate. Scout.

bigmek35 wrote:so i think after gathering what ive seen from various sources, i think the next codex order will be:

GK (duh)
'Crons
DA
Tau
BT
sisters

and then i draw the line. Kill me for it i dont realy care, just my opinion.

DA and BT aren't gonna get a codex any time soon (even counting "sometime within a year" as "soon").

It's gonna be GK, Necrons, Sisters, Tau more likely than not.

Sorry, the sisters are too busy being overwhelmed by rivers of blood to get a new codex.

Seriously though. What the feth Ward?

pretre wrote:

Doop Dude wrote:

pretre wrote:@Doop: Wolf Scouts. There's precedent.

Wolf Scouts are down as Infiltrate.

Not inflitrate. Scout.

According to the 'dex, it's both.

pretre wrote:Although I think the 'leaked screenshots' are bollocks, I am a big fan of Redemptionists. I hope they make it back into the real book.

My 15+ pounds of Redemptionists and Cawdor minis wholeheartedly agree with you!

They USED to be HMBC. If this salt-tastic info is correct then the fluff has been altered yet again. They do that, you know.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Arbites - The raping! The raping of the fluff! Shotcannons are not the same as Arbite Combat Shotguns guns! Where are my Executioner rounds! AHHH!! *deep breath*

Say it with me - [chant]The fluff is arbitrary. They will change what they want to sell a new kit. The fluff is arbitrary. They will change what the want to sell a new kit. [/chant]

Huh? What's the problem with the stats for the gun? It's a shotgun with an extra shot.

Sisters Troops Choice + Immolator + Ability to take 2 special weapons in a unit under 10 models = super fantastic happy hour.

Doop Dude wrote:[

sleezesteve wrote:

I have had the leaked GK codex since it first (very shortly) popped up here, which obviously turned out to be legit, and now looking at this supposed Battlesister leak has me convinced it is likely a home made mockup by some joker.

The handwriting is different. For example the letter "A" is written as A throughout in the GK leak while it is written as "a" in the page of the document we are seeing here. That is a very distinctive difference. Letters D & G differ too.

Also the format/letter type or whatever it's called is different. For example WARGEAR in this one as opposed to Wargear in the GK leak. And REDEMPTIONIST MILITIA is a completely different letter type than the entry names the GK have.

Of course this doesn't necessarily rule out or confirm anything (one document could be further along in the development process than the other, which however then raises questions about when exactly it leaked out), but what I'm seeing in this picture looks rather suspect while the GK leak looks exactly the same as a real (printed) codex.

TBD wrote:
I have had the leaked GK codex since it first (very shortly) popped up here, which obviously turned out to be legit, and now looking at this supposed Battlesister leak has me convinced it is likely a home made mockup by some joker.

The handwriting is different. For example the letter "A" is written as A throughout in the GK leak while it is written as "a" in the page of the document we are seeing here. That is a very distinctive difference. Letters D & G differ too.

Also the format/letter type or whatever it's called is different. For example WARGEAR in this one as opposed to Wargear in the GK leak. And REDEMPTIONIST MILITIA is a completely different letter type than the entry names the GK have.

I thought the underlining in the upper left looked suspiciously straight, as if it was added in an image editor...

bhsman wrote:Huh? What's the problem with the stats for the gun? It's a shotgun with an extra shot.

I'm talking about the fluff. Wasn't that clear with my "The raping! The raping of the fluff!" comment? Was I being to subtle for you?

Do not meddle in the affairs of H.B.M.C for he is subtle and quick to anger.