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Off Topic: Anyone who honestly believes the new Star Wars movies are better in every way has a serious imbalance. I highly suggest you log onto http://redlettermedia.com/ and watch Mr. Plinkets reviews of the the 3 prequils. He will set you straight. In addition to being funny, they really are the most insightful criticism of Star Wars I've ever seen.

To all 4 of the Matt Ward appologists out there,
Calm down man. There's plenty of Ward hate threads, this is not one of them. People are just channeling their frustration by having some light hearted fun.

To Matt Ward,
Thank you, for teaching me to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, and know when to run.

Dear Mr. and Mrs. Matt Ward's Parents,

Thank you for saving 40k. Your plan worked.

Playing "Bolt-Thrower" for your baby while in the womb.
The Brass crib mounted on top of a mountain of skulls.
Codexes replacing Dr. Suess books.
A steady diet of Human Flesh and Vodka instead of Formula.
Promoting worship of the Emperor instead of...."Christianity".
Moon Pies instead of Dolly Madison Treats.
Sending Mr. Ward on the 'Agoge' resulting in his first kill at age 7.

All these things successfully created the perfect being for writing 40k lore. Thank you for your wonderful parenting technique.

Sincerely,

A 40k gamer

Shenra wrote:Matt Ward,

Thanks for your efforts. There has NEVER been a codex or rules release without naysayers. No one could do it perfectly, or satisfy everyone. It's so easy to criticize...yet none of the critics have ever even written a codex. I doubt any of them are even published. I like the GK. I like the SM (except Power of the Machine Spirit ) I like BA. I play Necrons, and my hopes are high for them. Keep doing what you're doing, and let the bilge and filth from the naysayers slide right off of you.

Good job, man.


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40k players are like Star Wars fans: they won't like anything new that comes out, because they've made the earlier versions or originals so "perfect" in their mind's eye that nothing will ever compare. Even though the new films were superior to the old in almost every way, few fans will admit it because the older stuff has become iconic.

If by superior you mean they were pig schlop in comparisn then you are right on the money=D
Does not writing codexes also mean you can't say they're good because you have no experience in writing them?
Like someone said before, watch the Plinkett reviews
Not only great for a good laugh, but very insightful and an excellent discussion on how to create movies, even if you don't particuarly care for the subject matter

Dear Matt Ward,
fg'thywght'naghtlb ghghtytjuiskcillg kykk'hukgnfb.

Yogsu'ghtyb,
Great Cthulhu

Yes, Thank you Matt Ward!
Please hurry up and write a new Chaos Codex before the Lynch Mob catches you!

Dear Matt Ward sama,

Thank you for inventing a time machine and travelling back to 16th century Japan to give me the hints I needed to end the sengoku jidai and unify the nation under my rule.

Domo arigato gozaimasu


Tokugawa Ieyasu

Dear Matt Ward,

Thank you for giving me the confidence to unite the tribes. Thanks to your help, that Mongolia shall rise to become a great empire.

From,
Temujin Genghis Khan

Dear Comrade Ward,

What a great idea it was to move my planned takeover from August to October! "October Revolution" is so much catchier, I agree! Bukharin says hi, and wants to know when you will visit again for celebratory drinks.

Yours,
Comrade Lenin

Dear Matt Ward,

Thanks for helping me out with that rebellion against the Harkonnens. Also, that Muad' Dib name you came up with really seems to be catching on.

You rock!
Paul Atreides.

Dear Matt Ward,

Due to your express request, I got the job at the Institute for Compulsory Military Doctrine at Berlin University.

Oskar von Niedermayer

Dear Matt Ward,

Thank you for PUMPING me UP!

Arnold Schwarzenegger

Dear Mat Ward

Thank you for your donation of pickles.
It went a long way towards Feeding the ing World!

Yours
Bob ing Geldof
Sept 1984

Dear Matt Ward.
Thanks for not only teaching me how to use a forge, but also how to cast awesome spells. I definitely think this whole Ring of Power idea you gave me will be awesome.
Your Friend
Sauron


Dear Matt Ward,
Thanks for never giving up on me. It means a lot, hopefully I'll never let you down!
-Rick Astley

Lord Scythican wrote:

Vaktathi wrote:

Lord Scythican wrote:Honestly, I kind of do want to thank him. He pretty much overruled all those people who said Grey Knights couldn't be corrupted. People acted like Grey Knights were less corruptable to than Jesus. Now those same people are sticking their fingers in their ears saying "La La La! Not Listening!!!"

Well, the fluff for about two decades stated that they were incorruptible, so it's not like they weren't basing that off nothing.

True, but my counter to that has always been, that fictional text in a book for a game can be changed and that is exactly what Ward did. People told me I was crazy. I guess buying Ward off with my winning lottery ticket was worth it. And to think it was only a winner for $5.00!!!

Please provide a citation for where even in Ward's crappy writing he states the GK are corrupted. The first piece of text in the codex states no GK has ever fallen. Nice try at a troll, though.

withershadow wrote:

Lord Scythican wrote:

Vaktathi wrote:

Lord Scythican wrote:Honestly, I kind of do want to thank him. He pretty much overruled all those people who said Grey Knights couldn't be corrupted. People acted like Grey Knights were less corruptable to than Jesus. Now those same people are sticking their fingers in their ears saying "La La La! Not Listening!!!"

Well, the fluff for about two decades stated that they were incorruptible, so it's not like they weren't basing that off nothing.

True, but my counter to that has always been, that fictional text in a book for a game can be changed and that is exactly what Ward did. People told me I was crazy. I guess buying Ward off with my winning lottery ticket was worth it. And to think it was only a winner for $5.00!!!

Please provide a citation for where even in Ward's crappy writing he states the GK are corrupted. The first piece of text in the codex states no GK has ever fallen. Nice try at a troll, though.

Please provide a citation for where I said they are corrupted. I said that they could be corrupted (Double check that. I italicized it so you would make sure you read it), because if they couldn't then why use the sister's blood? We are talking about potential here troll.

Which definition of corruption are we talking about? It can either mean falling to Chaos and becoming its servant, or falling victim to its mutagenic properties.

No Grey Knight has ever bent a knee to the forces of Chaos. Ever. In this sense of the word "corruption", they Grey Knights indeed CANNOT be corrupted. Case in point, the second sentence in the codex describes them as "an incorruptible army of genetically-engineered warriors".

However, nothing in all their brainwashing/neurosurgery/indoctrination renders them immune from the various effects of the warp. Resistant due to the Aegis, sure, but far from immune (okay, except Draigo, he's immune). Hell, in the Grey Knight Omnibus, Alaric's hexagrammic wards were overloaded/shut down and he became a mindless berserker for a time. But even in this state, he never gave his soul to Khorne, and in fact ended up tearing down his cities. Of course, the total slaughter that required probably worked out to Khorne's benefit anyway, but that's the cruel irony faced by all the Grey Knights. They can never win, but they fight anyway.

Think of it like this, the Grey Knights have a 2+ invulnerable save against warp shenanigans, but the blood of the Sisters gave them a re-roll just to be sure. The idea is actually not at all bad, it was just clumsily implemented (perhaps limited by space or the fact that it wasn't told from the perspective of a participant).

Serious GK discussion?
You guys are way off topic.

Dear Mat Ward

Thanks with helpng round up the animals.
The Voyage to Mt. Ararat was so much fun thanks to your storytelling.
Also the curried unicorn was delish!! You must let Mrs. N have the recipe sometime. No wait, on second thoughts, there is not much point now! lol

Man what a night that was on the old vino!
Thanks for leaving me in flagrante you rogue. Man was I so embarrased! Will pay you back next time lol

all the best
Noah

ps Mrs N has sent some pickled olives

Dear Matt:

Thanks for standing up for me. We all make mistakes, but your faith in me helped the league to see the wisdom in giving me a shot at redemption. I may even make the new Madden cover!

Michael Vick

withershadow wrote:Which definition of corruption are we talking about? It can either mean falling to Chaos and becoming its servant, or falling victim to its mutagenic properties.

No Grey Knight has ever bent a knee to the forces of Chaos. Ever. In this sense of the word "corruption", they Grey Knights indeed CANNOT be corrupted. Case in point, the second sentence in the codex describes them as "an incorruptible army of genetically-engineered warriors".

However, nothing in all their brainwashing/neurosurgery/indoctrination renders them immune from the various effects of the warp. Resistant due to the Aegis, sure, but far from immune (okay, except Draigo, he's immune). Hell, in the Grey Knight Omnibus, Alaric's hexagrammic wards were overloaded/shut down and he became a mindless berserker for a time. But even in this state, he never gave his soul to Khorne, and in fact ended up tearing down his cities. Of course, the total slaughter that required probably worked out to Khorne's benefit anyway, but that's the cruel irony faced by all the Grey Knights. They can never win, but they fight anyway.

Think of it like this, the Grey Knights have a 2+ invulnerable save against warp shenanigans, but the blood of the Sisters gave them a re-roll just to be sure. The idea is actually not at all bad, it was just clumsily implemented (perhaps limited by space or the fact that it wasn't told from the perspective of a participant).

??? Just go back and read all the countless threads. I will leave you with one tidbit from the hundreds of posts on the subject: "if they grey knights are uncorruptable, then why did they need to anoint themselves with the Sisters of Battle blood to avoid corruption?" If they can't be corrupted, then it the ritual was unnecessary. As for which definition, the fluff never says which one it is "flesh or Spirit" as others have put it, so it is safe to assume it could be either one.

Dear Mr Ward,

Thanks for steroids...I mean, performance enhancers. They really helped out my game. I send you those free tickets a.s.a.p.

- Barry Bonds

Lord Scythican wrote:Just go back and read all the countless threads. I will leave you with one tidbit from the hundreds of posts on the subject: "if they grey knights are uncorruptable, then why did they need to anoint themselves with the Sisters of Battle blood to avoid corruption?" If they can't be corrupted, then it the ritual was unnecessary. As for which definition, the fluff never says which one it is "flesh or Spirit" as others have put it, so it is safe to assume it could be either one.

So you're going to choose to be purposefully obtuse. Okay, I can live with that.

I don't need to read "hundreds of posts" of histrionics and communal nerdrage when I have the book in front of me and can read it for myself. Considering how many untold innocents sacrifice their blood (and flesh, and bones, and very souls) to provide raw material required to equip the Grey Knights, a few Sisters of Battle (who at this point were a liability and were going to die anyway) in exchange for an extra edge against a planet gone cuckoo for cocoa puffs. I don't think people would even mention it if the Sisters in question were stated to have willingly sacrificed themselves.

Dear Withershadow

You don't seem to have fully grasped the meaning and intent of this thread. It is to prove categorically the medical efficiacy and superlative aphrodisiacal properties of the humble pickle.

Healther and more nutrious than viagra, I fully endore the preserved veg for engendering creativity both physically and mentally.

I do most honestly and forthrightly believe that were it not for the foodstuffs steeped in vinegar, that the Grey Knight codex would be the book it is.

Please accept this trial size jar of pickled walnuts to prove to your own satisfaction the sooth of my proclamations regarding such viands.

Yout obediant servant
Matthew Ward.

Dear Matt Ward,
Thanks for the career advice. I was worried that no woman would ever be courageous enough to have relations with me.

Yours,
Ron Jeremy

P.S. Also thanks for the nickname, it's both comedic and relevant!

Dear Mr Ward,

Thanks for writing the BA/Gk codeci, finally people have stopped flaming on Dakka Dakka about how broken the IG codex is.

Love,
R Cruddance

Dear Matt:

Thanks for the help with my portfolio. You sure know how to pick them!

Warren Buffett

methinks this thread has both made its point and run its course.