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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/03 13:27:30
Subject: Compatibility between Humans and Eldar
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Tadashi wrote:Apparently, the naive and ignorant Tau do not seem to distinguish between the Emperor's warriors and those Traitors cast out of the Human Realms. And I never said all Guardsmen were like that. You should note I said Guardsmen like them, not all Guardsmen. And the Space Marines have never discriminated against the Guard. Some Chapters do, but most other Chapters detest said Chapters. If you care to note, the Space Wolves argued against the Inquisition over the outcome of the First Armageddon War, and the Salamanders ABSOLUTELY hate collateral damage.
I didnt distinguish, I only sought to remind that those traitors are Space Marines. No amount of arguing can change that. Not pointing it out is how you get more Marine Malevolents.
"...never discriminated against the Guard. Some Chapters do..." Might want to rephrase that, maybe:
Space Marines, on the whole, don't discriminate against the Guard, and the chapters that do are detested.
You know who wouldn't rape their enemies?  The Tau (This is a troll-type comment, please ignore it)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/03 15:47:04
Subject: Compatibility between Humans and Eldar
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Tadashi wrote:CpatTom wrote:Tadashi wrote:Won't work with Tau. Humans and Tau don't have a genetic connection in any fluff. Fluff implies that both Humans and Eldar have common ancestors, or that they were created from the same original design by the Old Ones, but the Tau don't have a link to the Old Ones, or to any of their races they created, so no.
So Tau/Human hybrids are a no go because they are not genetically similar, but Eldar/Human hybrids are (Hint: other than outward appearance, they have little to no biological similarities, just like the Tau)? One way or the other please. As unlikely as both situations are, they are still both possible. From a purely genetic standpoint neither should work, but crazy gak happens in 40k, and thus I am willing to say, that however unlikely I deem it to be, it could theoretically happen. In both cases. (Although Fabius Bile/ DE type science would probably be an easier explanation for such a pairing, and increases the probability of occurrence dramatically.
Tadashi wrote:
That is one disturbing story...disgusts me that the noble Astartes have to count Guardsmen like them as brothers-in-arms.
Oh, so short of memory the Blood Ravens are. Innumerable atrocities befell the common human captured by Marines on terra. Might the Astartes remember their betrayal and horrors committed at their own hands before casting blame on the human Guardmen? There are innumerable Guardsmen who have stood to the same enemies of the Imperium without Power Armor to hide behind. Remember that, Blood Raven, lest you forget the greatest enemies to the Imperium are those Brothers-In-Arms who might carry the same gene-seed as you.
Apparently, the naive and ignorant Tau do not seem to distinguish between the Emperor's warriors and those Traitors cast out of the Human Realms. And I never said all Guardsmen were like that. You should note I said Guardsmen like them, not all Guardsmen. And the Space Marines have never discriminated against the Guard. Some Chapters do, but most other Chapters detest said Chapters. If you care to note, the Space Wolves argued against the Inquisition over the outcome of the First Armageddon War, and the Salamanders ABSOLUTELY hate collateral damage.
He seems to think astartes are incorruptable *snigger*
Their very brotherhood is what makes them so weak. In the Doom Eagles short story form one of the anthologies, the main character almost joined Chaos just so he could be brothers with the traitor marines. Also, in the Scythes of the Emperor short story in the same book, a marine committed suicide because he was depressed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/04 01:15:59
Subject: Compatibility between Humans and Eldar
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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And you think Tau follow the Ethereals completely. Commander Shadowsun turned his back on the Greater Good because he realized that the Greater Good was folly. And Space Marines are still Human. If the Emperor wanted perfect warriors, he could have just remade the Iron Men, but no, he wanted superhuman warriors that were still Human. So yes, Astartes are corruptible, something I never said they were, but most of us don't fall, and those that do get hunted down by their Chapter, other Chapters, and the Inquisition.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/04 01:38:19
Subject: Compatibility between Humans and Eldar
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Tadashi wrote:And you think Tau follow the Ethereals completely. Commander Shadowsun turned his back on the Greater Good because he realized that the Greater Good was folly. And Space Marines are still Human. If the Emperor wanted perfect warriors, he could have just remade the Iron Men, but no, he wanted superhuman warriors that were still Human. So yes, Astartes are corruptible, something I never said they were, but most of us don't fall, and those that do get hunted down by their Chapter, other Chapters, and the Inquisition.
Most IG don't turn either.
Also, that was Farsight, not Shadowsun, and Farsight was already an unstable individual who is actually dead with his armour and weapons being passed between commanders of the secessionists so...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/04 02:42:55
Subject: Compatibility between Humans and Eldar
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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My mistake. Doesn't change the fact they think the Greater Good's a load of bull, and that's why they ignore the Ethereal Caste and dig in in their enclaves.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/04 02:46:21
Subject: Compatibility between Humans and Eldar
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Tadashi wrote:My mistake. Doesn't change the fact they think the Greater Good's a load of bull, and that's why they ignore the Ethereal Caste and dig in in their enclaves.
It's actually the less fundamental beliefs they disagree with, such as ranged combat being the only good kind of combat.
And they are seasoned, just like the members of other races, so they kinda hate all the "naive" tau.
Plus they needed a reason for tau to be able to fight tau on the table top.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/04 02:49:59
Subject: Compatibility between Humans and Eldar
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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All true. They know all major races don't want to coexist, so why should the Tau be any different. The Eldar would probably just throw them aside once they're no use, and the others would ignore or kill them, so why bother with the Greater Good at all?
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/04 03:01:11
Subject: Compatibility between Humans and Eldar
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Tunneling Trygon
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Steelmage99 wrote:Bringing up genetical similarities is iffy.
Humans share astounding genetical similarities with both fruit flies and potatoes. Yet the market for "Potatoes gone wild" is surprisingly small. 
You, sir, are a genious and my new hero!
Edit: I'm sorry, that quote was from page 1 of this thread, I just had to get that out there.
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