Space Marine Armor

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**Grey Templar**

Or just break the shaft and leave the barb in till later.

And given the insane reflexes Astartes have, they could probably dodge it or break it very quickly before anyone could take advantage of the shaft.

This is assuming the harpoon is able to penetrate their amor in the first place.

**Brother Thomas**

I like #1, but the pauldrons need to be bigger

**Veteran Sergeant**

Sparks_Havelock wrote:
Cameron Baum wrote:Also, if you think about it, to grab the harpoon means not grabbing your weapon, so you have to make yourself defenceless to try and deal with it.

Marines have two hands and are more than capable of wielding their bolters with just one hand - if an Astartes can crush a mans head with one hand, with ease outside of their armour, I'm sure they'd find firing a bolter weighing in at 7kg+ with just one hand ridiculously easy. So, in this example, they wouldn't have a problem grabbing a harpoon with one hand, using their colossal strength to rip it from their armour & still use their boltgun to fight back. With the various implants Astartes have, any damage caused by the barbs of a harpoon would be nullified as their wounds clot & start healing almost immediately.

I think pretty much every rule set for 40K has mentioned Marines being able to fire bolters with one hand. If anything, the servo-assisted joints should be great at compensating for recoil, weight and natural sway. Despite how silly this discussion is, certainly a Space Marine could defend himself adequately with a single hand.

**mwnciboo**

If a Harpoon is made of a hard enough material and thrown/fired with enough force it will penetrate.

**Hunterindarkness**

Woh this thread is back.

I agree, the armor will give if it meets enough force. Sm armor is not invulnerable, just though. If construction beams can get though it, something like a harpoon can as well.

**Grey Templar**

of course, however it would have to be either on heck of a harpoon OR it would be a lucky shot through a joint.

A steel or iron harpoon is not going to punch through a breastplate or pauldron unless its being thrown by a Space Marine.

And if you are using harpoons to fight Space Marines, you are already fethed.

**Hunterindarkness**

Eh Sm's use spears, Troops use swords in 40k, does not mean they are steel. Weapons while they may be "primitive" they are not limited to "primitive materials". Aiming for the joints would be the best idea, they are always the weak points on any type of armor.

**Grey Templar**

On the TT, sure.

Fluffwise, a regular human doesn't stand a chance unless he has a power sword or fist. Or is wearing PA himself.

**Hunterindarkness**

I am not so sure, but 9.5 times out of ten I'll agree. Without some kinda od extra power he might not get though. Weakened or damaged PA however might be a different game.