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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 19:17:01
Subject: Was this justified?
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Wholly Justified, its your Army no one has any right to Judge it or You in any way. We're grown Men and women what kind of crap is that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 19:18:41
Subject: Was this justified?
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DarknessEternal wrote:CrashCanuck wrote:I just have one question, that's supposed to be a MLP paint scheme? It just looks like white marines with gold trim and the fleur de lis on the shoulder. The employee totally flipped out for no reason and you were totally justified.
It makes me think there's more to this story that the OP wasn't letting on, particularly more things he did to incite this reaction.
Don't think so. The employee knew he liked MLP from his IG army, which featured symbols from the show. He knew that there were two powerful princesses in MLP, Luna and Celestia. So when the OP brought in his colour scheme for his new army called Celestial Marines this employee automatically assumed that Celestial referred to Celestia and went off on a rant which was, to say the least, unprofessional.
What could the OP possibly have done to incite this reaction? If someone is causing trouble in the store then GW policy is to calmly ask them to leave. If they refuse then the police are called. You do not, under any circumstances, escalate the situation by insulting the troublemaker. So even if the OP had done something to incite this reaction the employee should still be fired for failing to maintain the professional standards required, especially as he is employed in a position which will bring him into regular contact with children.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 19:26:08
Subject: Was this justified?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Kanluwen wrote:In a corporate environment like GW's, you would be surprised how much power the customer has when it comes to getting someone fired.
Especially in a situation like this where the individual in question getting complained about is relatively low on the totem pole and in what is considered a "high turnover" job.
You missed my point entirely here...the point is that a manager is not going to have a knee jerk reaction, but if it really was something that was bad would resolve it. I was replying to someone who implied that just because a customer complained an employee would be fired. The key is the validity of the customer complaint. Even a corporate environment like GW needs employees and sacking employees daily just because a single customer complained about them doesn't happen often and will ulitimately mean word will get around and no one will hire on to work in the stores anymore because if a single customer looks at you funny you will be canned. In this case, judging by the Manager's actions and call back apology it sounds like there was a history with this employee so sacking was an appropriate action.
Skriker Automatically Appended Next Post: A Town Called Malus wrote:Don't think so. The employee knew he liked MLP from his IG army, which featured symbols from the show. He knew that there were two powerful princesses in MLP, Luna and Celestia. So when the OP brought in his colour scheme for his new army called Celestial Marines this employee automatically assumed that Celestial referred to Celestia and went off on a rant which was, to say the least, unprofessional.
Of course one has to wonder why someone who is obviously as well aware of the MLP history and back story is so vehmently homophobic towards someone who is using inspiration from the show. I mean it wouldn't have even happened if the employee wasn't as knowledge about MLP as the OP in the first place...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 19:48:27
Subject: Was this justified?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Skriker wrote:Kanluwen wrote:In a corporate environment like GW's, you would be surprised how much power the customer has when it comes to getting someone fired.
Especially in a situation like this where the individual in question getting complained about is relatively low on the totem pole and in what is considered a "high turnover" job.
You missed my point entirely here...the point is that a manager is not going to have a knee jerk reaction, but if it really was something that was bad would resolve it. I was replying to someone who implied that just because a customer complained an employee would be fired. The key is the validity of the customer complaint. Even a corporate environment like GW needs employees and sacking employees daily just because a single customer complained about them doesn't happen often and will ultimately mean word will get around and no one will hire on to work in the stores anymore because if a single customer looks at you funny you will be canned. In this case, judging by the Manager's actions and call back apology it sounds like there was a history with this employee so sacking was an appropriate action.
Skriker
I'm completely aware of your point. I just find it to be a rather silly one. This concept that "employees are protected, no matter what!" is rather ludicrous.
It's far easier for a manager (who may or may not actually be "in-store" every day, as we don't know whether or not it was an actual manager of the shop, a regional manager, etc) to let a register-monkey go than it is for him to launch any kind of inquiry into the situation at hand.
Since the manager, however, was purportedly standing right next to the employee when this guy was giving the OP such hell that he finds it necessary to post about it on Dakka, but did not do anything to publicly berate him or prevent the other customers from mocking the OP--it casts quite a bit of doubt that this situation occurred as it was described.
It makes it sound more like this kind of ribbing is something that happens often, but on this occasion the OP threw a fit and the manager realized after the fact that it was a situation which was a powderkeg that could blowback in his face and took steps to insulate himself and his store/parent company from any kind of shenanigans that the OP could bring against him through complaints.
Quite frankly I would not be surprised to see posts from the OP within the next few months talking about how the store has implemented some kind of ridiculous draconian policy to prevent this kind of situation from happening again.
A Town Called Malus wrote:Don't think so. The employee knew he liked MLP from his IG army, which featured symbols from the show. He knew that there were two powerful princesses in MLP, Luna and Celestia. So when the OP brought in his colour scheme for his new army called Celestial Marines this employee automatically assumed that Celestial referred to Celestia and went off on a rant which was, to say the least, unprofessional.
Of course one has to wonder why someone who is obviously as well aware of the MLP history and back story is so vehmently homophobic towards someone who is using inspiration from the show. I mean it wouldn't have even happened if the employee wasn't as knowledge about MLP as the OP in the first place...
Skriker
Because the OP has another army themed around a MLP character, and has apparently been mocked about it before in this very same store by the playerbase.
It makes it sound far more like the OP is a rather young individual who talks a lot about MLP--as people are wont to do about their interests--but does not quite understand the concept of "Not all people will accept my interests as being worth interest".
As a sidenote:
There's a very, very big reason why I'm so skeptical of this claim. Dakka is a place which has had its fair share of people come on and post about their "horrific experiences" in local shops, only to have someone else from that very same shop come on and further explain the situation in detail making it quite clear that the "Woe is me!" poster was doing something to antagonize their supposed antagonist.
It's ridiculous how full of drama this hobby can be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 20:33:55
Subject: Was this justified?
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Kanluwen wrote:I'm completely aware of your point. I just find it to be a rather silly one. This concept that "employees are protected, no matter what!" is rather ludicrous.
Hello. I never said that employees are protected no matter what. Just that the concept is not as frivilous as you are making it out to be. Companies receive complains EVERY DAY. If they fired every employee that one person moaned about they would go out of business. It IS that simple. Have you ever worked in retail in your life? Do you think that no one EVER complained about you as an employee ever? If you still had a job they you have seen my point in action.
Kanluwen wrote:It's far easier for a manager (who may or may not actually be "in-store" every day, as we don't know whether or not it was an actual manager of the shop, a regional manager, etc) to let a register-monkey go than it is for him to launch any kind of inquiry into the situation at hand.
Have you ever worked as a manager? Even a register monkey requires more than a little training that isn't just thrown out the door on a whim. I've had problems with employees in the past, and have received complaints both founded and unfounded on employees. As the manager it was *MY JOB* to find the real problems and deal with them and not just fire people regularly to appease angry customers. I was the first line of defense for corporate to make sure that valid complaints were addressed and that invalid complaints didn't ruin an employee's reputation in the company. As an example: for an invalid complaint I boot out an employee and now I need to 1) Hire a replacement. 2) Train a replacement. During that time my store/department is understaffed and my own workload is increased on the sales floor and behind the scenes as I find someone to hire and train. The lazy manager who dumps employees just out of hand without real need to do so ends up with much more work than it would have taken them to verify that the problem was valid or not in the first place. In management there are plenty of ways to deal with a difficult employee that don't require firing.
kanluwen wrote:Because the OP has another army themed around a MLP character, and has apparently been mocked about it before in this very same store by the playerbase.
It makes it sound far more like the OP is a rather young individual who talks a lot about MLP--as people are wont to do about their interests--but does not quite understand the concept of "Not all people will accept my interests as being worth interest".
There is a difference in "not all people accepting my interests as being worth interest" and abuse of customers by staff members who don't find their interest of interest. I've seen plenty of armies in themes I never would have been caught dead using, but if they are well executed more power to them. It is obviously important enough to the customer that you can fall back on the "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" concept.
kanluwen wrote:As a sidenote:
There's a very, very big reason why I'm so skeptical of this claim. Dakka is a place which has had its fair share of people come on and post about their "horrific experiences" in local shops, only to have someone else from that very same shop come on and further explain the situation in detail making it quite clear that the "Woe is me!" poster was doing something to antagonize their supposed antagonist.
It's ridiculous how full of drama this hobby can be.
All we can do is respond to what was posted. Given the nature of forums since the days of usenet there is no guarantees that anything that anyone posts here is even remotely true, but for me I give them the benefit of the doubt and leave it at that and that is all I can ask from others.
I do agree how ridiculous the drama in this hobby can be...it is a game...played with painted toy soldiers, though to be fair all of life is this way. Some people just get their jollies from insulting others to make themselves feel better or porting drama into their lives on a daily basis over nothing. Some people are just not willing or able to allow themselves to happy at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 21:42:11
Subject: Was this justified?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Skriker wrote:Kanluwen wrote:I'm completely aware of your point. I just find it to be a rather silly one. This concept that "employees are protected, no matter what!" is rather ludicrous.
Hello. I never said that employees are protected no matter what. Just that the concept is not as frivilous as you are making it out to be. Companies receive complains EVERY DAY. If they fired every employee that one person moaned about they would go out of business. It IS that simple. Have you ever worked in retail in your life? Do you think that no one EVER complained about you as an employee ever? If you still had a job they you have seen my point in action.
Yes. I have worked as an employee in retail. I also am quite aware of the fact that managers can be petty, self-serving individuals who have no problems sacrificing employees to save their own butt as I did see several fellow employees who were quite good and had -nothing- in the way of feasible complaints brought against them for their duration at the store where we worked. Then one customer comes in with an outrageous claim, and the manager lets them go when the magic words "I'm going to file a complaint with corporate!" are brought up.
Kanluwen wrote:It's far easier for a manager (who may or may not actually be "in-store" every day, as we don't know whether or not it was an actual manager of the shop, a regional manager, etc) to let a register-monkey go than it is for him to launch any kind of inquiry into the situation at hand.
Have you ever worked as a manager? Even a register monkey requires more than a little training that isn't just thrown out the door on a whim. I've had problems with employees in the past, and have received complaints both founded and unfounded on employees. As the manager it was *MY JOB* to find the real problems and deal with them and not just fire people regularly to appease angry customers. I was the first line of defense for corporate to make sure that valid complaints were addressed and that invalid complaints didn't ruin an employee's reputation in the company. As an example: for an invalid complaint I boot out an employee and now I need to 1) Hire a replacement. 2) Train a replacement. During that time my store/department is understaffed and my own workload is increased on the sales floor and behind the scenes as I find someone to hire and train. The lazy manager who dumps employees just out of hand without real need to do so ends up with much more work than it would have taken them to verify that the problem was valid or not in the first place. In management there are plenty of ways to deal with a difficult employee that don't require firing.
Consider the fact that these shops are basically meant to be ran by one or two people, tops, and you'll see that letting a register monkey go isn't that bad.
kanluwen wrote:Because the OP has another army themed around a MLP character, and has apparently been mocked about it before in this very same store by the playerbase.
It makes it sound far more like the OP is a rather young individual who talks a lot about MLP--as people are wont to do about their interests--but does not quite understand the concept of "Not all people will accept my interests as being worth interest".
There is a difference in "not all people accepting my interests as being worth interest" and abuse of customers by staff members who don't find their interest of interest. I've seen plenty of armies in themes I never would have been caught dead using, but if they are well executed more power to them. It is obviously important enough to the customer that you can fall back on the "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" concept.
There is also a difference between "not all people accept my interests as being worth interest" and constantly bombarding people with talk of your interests.
I don't like painting groups with a broad brush, as I'm a stickler for context and specifics personally, but something I've noticed is that the majority of these "Bronies" that we see posting here on Dakka tend to be rather awkward adolescent males who have something that is setting them apart from their fellow adolescents enough that they're going to be the target of ridicule either way, but with teenagers and adolescents being the mob mentality they are--it's easier to just ride the hate train on that specific characteristic. It's also far, far easier for the little monsters to pick on these "Bronies" by the fact that many of them, for lack of a better term, will flaunt this interest as though it is a very important defining aspect of their being.
And then they are surprised that they are belittled and mocked for it.
kanluwen wrote:As a sidenote:
There's a very, very big reason why I'm so skeptical of this claim. Dakka is a place which has had its fair share of people come on and post about their "horrific experiences" in local shops, only to have someone else from that very same shop come on and further explain the situation in detail making it quite clear that the "Woe is me!" poster was doing something to antagonize their supposed antagonist.
It's ridiculous how full of drama this hobby can be.
All we can do is respond to what was posted. Given the nature of forums since the days of usenet there is no guarantees that anything that anyone posts here is even remotely true, but for me I give them the benefit of the doubt and leave it at that and that is all I can ask from others.
I do agree how ridiculous the drama in this hobby can be...it is a game...played with painted toy soldiers, though to be fair all of life is this way. Some people just get their jollies from insulting others to make themselves feel better or porting drama into their lives on a daily basis over nothing. Some people are just not willing or able to allow themselves to happy at all.
Skriker
Indeed. Something you can also do is take into context the poster's history.
I actually had a PM recently when I changed my sig, info, and avatar to the current Infinity "theme" I have going on asking about what happened between myself and GW as a company.
If I weren't a well-known GW "fanboy", it would have been no big deal. As it stands--it was something someone actually considered important enough to see if there was a story behind it.
(There's really not. I like the Dasyu Sniper model and decided I'd go with an ALEPH "theme" for a bit, before anyone asks.  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 21:59:57
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Gamers have on average less social skills than the average adult in society. In addition they tend to be a little obsessive about whatever particular game they favor. Introducing anything into their little world that is out of character is likely to make them more on edge. Given the associations between My Little Pony and effeminate behavior I'm not surprised that you caught some serious flak. I would not play a male with a my little pony themed army 9 times out of 10. Then again I feel the same way about nearly all non 40k themed armies.
I would not however look down on you for wanting to play it and would still welcome you to join the group.
Assuming you are male, they were likely dealing with homophobic issues along with your infringement into "their" world. I'd find a group that accepts you for you are.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 01:56:45
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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DeathReaper wrote:Shadowbrand wrote:Imo, grow some thicker skin bronies or else you will always just be prodded at to see you over react.
1000% this.
I have a friend that makes fun of peopls armies/paintjobs/list composition just to see them get upset.
He once, while looking at a "well painted army" (His words), made fun of the red and green Xmas theme Eldar army just because he knew it would get a rise out of the owner of said Xmas Eldar.
Um...your friend is kind of a dick then. Why would someone think it's ok to be a dick? I really don't understand why people seem to think it's ok to piss people off just to see them pissed off. That's a seriously messed-up way to think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 02:47:24
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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You can't and never will understand.
Some men wana watch the world burn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 02:55:45
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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beigeknight wrote:Um...your friend is kind of a dick then. Why would someone think it's ok to be a dick? I really don't understand why people seem to think it's ok to piss people off just to see them pissed off. That's a seriously messed-up way to think.
He is "a dick" to people who are "deserving", in his mind, of ridicule.
This is usually directed at people who do, what he considers, stupid stuff.
He is a curmudgeon. I guess making fun of people is his release.
Its better than the alternative.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 02:57:30
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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I've sold so many armies. :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 03:01:16
Subject: Was this justified?
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You sure they weren't you know.........joking?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 03:03:25
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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That's not how it works sfshilo.
You can make fun of 40k and it's okay it's funny. You can make fun of fat people and that's acceptable. But if you -ever- make fun of a bronie THOR FORBID THAT'S SO HEINOUS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 03:18:35
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I started reading this topic and then saw 8 pages of what I can only presume is angry debating. I'll skip all that and just answer the OP.
Your money and paint so go to town. I don't know what the heck my little pony armies are, but paint away and worry not.
If people do have problems with these mlp forces at ur store and you have had previous issues with that, I'd suggest lay off anything that could be considered mlp propaganda. If this isn't the issue then play with joy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 03:33:33
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Xeriapt wrote:Alexzandvar wrote:Kaldor wrote:If you're going to incorporate something as stupid as MLP in your 40K, you'd better expect the blowback. Doesn't mean they were right, but you gotta expect it.
Just sayin.
Let me share you a story about the blow back I get from it, and how I enjoy crushing it under my Super-Heavy Tanks.
Now to put this in context I run a Imperial Guard Army called Luna's Legion. This is a heavy armor army that makes heavy use of Tanks and Artillery and my only Titan ( a Warlord ). This is an apoc battle. This Army uses the cutie mark of the Princess from My Little Pony as a banner and marking.
The Army is painted in a void space Camo theme.
I enter the store to play a 2vs2 Apoc with my Friend who plays Ultramarines. I sit down and begin to unload my army after greeting everyone. My opponents are 2 people who I have never met before, they look to be in there 20's or older, one plays Ork "Green Tide" and another plays Tyranids. Now, everyone in the store knows about the cutie mark thing, but I had to tell them as none of them recognized it, and they didn't care and I even got some compliments on my painting. As I take my Baneblades out ( I didn't bring my Titan, to big and to cumbersome sometimes ) they have 2 flags on the back of each both with said cutie mark and a III under it. The Tyranid player immediately shouts "HOLY  THATS FROM MY LITTLE PONY", I give him a look and said, "Oh you watch as well?", he then responds with " Lol I don't that shows for fags and horse  er's". He does not say anything after this and I decided to go with it and crush his pathetic army with my " Fa-word Army".
After I have everything unloaded and I begin to speak with my friend on strategy the Ork player leans over the table and says, "Are you  ing slowed? Were is all of your Guardsmen and Infantry, I explain to him what little Infantry I have is on Chimeras and Valkyries as I do not like playing with mass Infantry and prefer mass armored combat. But hes having none of it and proclaims that his Orks will crush my "Stupid list" into nothing. Battle opens up and he loses his entire first charging wave to my 4 Baneblades and several Leman Russ's. He then goes into a rage accusing me of being a player and how I won't be able to hold off another attack. Second wave is chopped to peices by Artillery fire and my Manticores turn his Warboss into a green smear.
Him AND his friend the Tyranid player then go into a rant on how I am a Horse  er for having a Army which only illusion to My Little Pony is it's flag, and my friend for being a "Ultrafaggot". They then pack up and leave, with the Ork player throwing his Warboss in the trash on the way out.
Me and friend re-organize our armies as we have another match later that day and go grab a Starbucks and something to eat from Cheesecake factory!
Lol talk about some crazy rage from those guys.
Some people are a bit too serious methinks.
Hey, free Warboss up for grabs!
But seriously, I've just started watching MLP, and I have no idea why it inspires such rage. Yes, it was designed for young girls, but producer Lauren Faust wanted a show that everyone would be able to enjoy. Besides, 40k could use a bit of happiness and love.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 03:44:13
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Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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Love? Love in 40k
Love get's sodomized, whipped half to death, dipped in vinegar. Has -old- Dark Eldar models shoved into it's fingernails. Then burned alive in 40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 03:44:55
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Shayden wrote:40k could use a bit of happiness and love.
That would go against the Gothic Horror aspect that 40K is built on, and would diminish the entire setting.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 03:47:19
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Shadowbrand wrote:Love? Love in 40k
Love get's sodomized, whipped half to death, dipped in vinegar. Has -old- Dark Eldar models shoved into it's fingernails. Then burned alive in 40k.
. . .
I'm confused by your post. How is that different from how regular love is?
Wait... did you mean it as a metaphor?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 03:52:04
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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You've clearly spent too much time on 4chan then.
There's kinky then theirs that You should hang out with Cannerus.
Also. Is your avatar's fur repellant to napalm? I ask -purely- out of curiosity.
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I've sold so many armies. :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 04:03:53
Subject: Was this justified?
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You're fully justified being pissed at him for ridiculing your paint choices in such a way. However, I can honestly say that if I saw a My Little Pony army across the table from me in a non-tournament, I'd give the guy a look, and probably pack up. I'm all for customization, but I think MLP has no place in 40k. That's my personal taste-you'd probably not want to stand across from my Iron Man themed Eldar army, and that's fine. But his word choice and actions were not okay, even if he hated your army scheme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 04:07:08
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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DeathReaper wrote:beigeknight wrote:Um...your friend is kind of a dick then. Why would someone think it's ok to be a dick? I really don't understand why people seem to think it's ok to piss people off just to see them pissed off. That's a seriously messed-up way to think.
He is "a dick" to people who are "deserving", in his mind, of ridicule.
This is usually directed at people who do, what he considers, stupid stuff.
He is a curmudgeon. I guess making fun of people is his release.
Its better than the alternative.
What is "the alternative" you speak of? I figure the alternative of being a total d-bag is to NOT be a total d-bag. In which case no, that's not better than the alternative.
I guess people have the right to be a dick. Then again, one has the right to call out people on being a dick and treating them accordingly.
Kaldor wrote:If you're going to incorporate something as stupid as MLP in your 40K, you'd better expect the blowback. Doesn't mean they were right, but you gotta expect it.
Just sayin.
Here's a good example. If someone is going to be a dick about someone else's army theme, they better expect the blowback(you know, like nobody liking them/gaming with them).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 04:10:36
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Confessor Of Sins
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Shadowbrand wrote:You've clearly spent too much time on 4chan then.
There's kinky then theirs that You should hang out with Cannerus.
Also. Is your avatar's fur repellant to napalm? I ask -purely- out of curiosity.
:: giggles :: I don't go to 4chan, but the Internet in general tends to have that effect on people. ^_^
Also, scales, not fur. My character is depicted as a dragoness there. But to answer your question, probably not. That, plus if her head were soaked in blazing napalm, even if her scales were unharmed, she'd be breathing in the flames, which would scorch her lungs and probably cause death.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 04:47:50
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Pouncey wrote:Shadowbrand wrote:You've clearly spent too much time on 4chan then.
There's kinky then theirs that You should hang out with Cannerus.
Also. Is your avatar's fur repellant to napalm? I ask -purely- out of curiosity.
:: giggles :: I don't go to 4chan, but the Internet in general tends to have that effect on people. ^_^
Also, scales, not fur. My character is depicted as a dragoness there. But to answer your question, probably not. That, plus if her head were soaked in blazing napalm, even if her scales were unharmed, she'd be breathing in the flames, which would scorch her lungs and probably cause death.
This man knows a bit about actual cause of death from fire. Pro tip, if you are ever burning to death do yourself a favor and breath in. Yay fire academy. However hypothetically speaking. A dragons lungs *should* be quite resilient to fire, what with the fire breathing and all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 04:48:45
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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A real dragon would burn my thatch roof cottage.
But being a Viking i'm damned good at fighting the beasts. Once I even shouted at one and it died.
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I've sold so many armies. :(
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Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 05:10:21
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Confessor Of Sins
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IcedAnimals wrote:However hypothetically speaking. A dragons lungs *should* be quite resilient to fire, what with the fire breathing and all.
:: nods :: Hypothetically, yes, but she's much less resilient than a dragon would be, since she's not really a dragon, she's just assuming the physical form of one. There's about 6 years of real-time history with the character since her creation in 2006.
The relevant part is that she doesn't breathe fire, she can't fly without the aid of a vehicle, propulsion device or magic - she doesn't even normally have wings - she can't handle fire, and her scales are not very tough.
Ye gods, why do I feel like an idiot for typing all that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 05:24:16
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Shadowbrand wrote:A real dragon would burn my thatch roof cottage.
Well not all Dragons can have chiaroscuro shading and consumate V's as spinidies and angry eyebrows. Also some dragons are vulnerable to fire, and do not spew fire at all. Some spew acid, cold, or lightning. beigeknight wrote:DeathReaper wrote:Its better than the alternative. What is "the alternative" you speak of? I figure the alternative of being a total d-bag is to NOT be a total d-bag. In which case no, that's not better than the alternative. I guess people have the right to be a dick. Then again, one has the right to call out people on being a dick and treating them accordingly. The Alternative is if people don't find a way to blow off steam, and keep it bottled up, they climb tall structures with high powered rifles, and use heads as target practice. The friend mentioned was in Desert Storm, he was deployed for a few years over there. No telling what he has experienced. So It may be his way of blowing off steam as to not climb a tall structure with a rifle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 06:08:23
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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It uh, takes balls doing that. I raise a beer to your Veteran friend.
I'd join the military. If I wasn't a fething ham-planet. And autistic.
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Word Bearers 2500k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 06:27:28
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Eight pages eh? Kinda amazing for such a simple thing.
To answer the OP, yup. Completely in the right by what you did. Showed more control than i would have at least.
But, on to the thing that gets me in the eight pages i just read, this quote, whom i wont name, THIS is what has my goat in this topic.
Yes they can. And I'm free to express my own opinions on it as well.
This is the real world, you don't get to do whatever you want in public without public comment.
To reinforce my point of view sir, you certainly have the right to your opinion. You can swing that opinion where you like and how you want. However, that opinion ends where the other guys nose begins.
So good sir, you miss the point of this hobby. The environment and general attitude is to have fun. If you stated this at a game, I certainly would not play with you and your attitude. Perhaps you should mill over that sentiment while you enjoy the hobby the way you enjoy it. :3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 06:59:32
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Xzerios wrote:If you stated this at a game, I certainly would not play with you and your attitude. Perhaps you should mill over that sentiment while you enjoy the hobby the way you enjoy it. :3
The more bronies and bronie apologists I can weed out of my life, the better.
Good day to you sir.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/08 08:21:23
Subject: Re:Was this justified?
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Since the manager, however, was purportedly standing right next to the employee when this guy was giving the OP such hell that he finds it necessary to post about it on Dakka, but did not do anything to publicly berate him or prevent the other customers from mocking the OP--it casts quite a bit of doubt that this situation occurred as it was described.
It makes it sound more like this kind of ribbing is something that happens often, but on this occasion the OP threw a fit and the manager realized after the fact that it was a situation which was a powderkeg that could blowback in his face and took steps to insulate himself and his store/parent company from any kind of shenanigans that the OP could bring against him through complaints.
@Kanluwen,
Normally I would agree with you here. There's something in the reading of the situation that didn't add up, and I think it's this very thing. I have a hard time envisioning a GW manager sitting by and watching an employee go crazy and start spewing words like cigarette and homo at a customer who has not only in the past spent significant money, but was also in the middle of pitching an idea for a whole new force. Doubly so if the player buys enough models to fields apocolypse level forces. All the way up to the dramatic ending where the OP gets in his final bit of justice and runs in tears out of the door.
That said, I do know there are people in the world who do NOT handle conflict, especially those involving hurtful words or raised voices, very well. It could be the manager is one of those types who may be frightened or intimidated by shouting or alpha male taunting. It took him a few days of quiet to mull over the situation and fire the errant employee, who regardless of his stance on bronies, deserved to lose his job for that sort of flare up at a customer.
OP, I like others would like to see a link or pics of your MLP army. I'm curious if it is inflammatorily bronified or just like anypony elses army with some pretty bits tossed on it. Either way, it can't be more annoying than the love marines projects out there. As a side note.. why is it artistically acceptable to legions of zombie IG ( zombies being their own fad ) hitler IG, and what the hell ever to exist but as soon as someone parodies the srs bzns grimdark of 40k they level of disgust is so high that people actually would go out of their way to completely dismiss someone as a potential opponent or person of interest?
@ Deathreaper,
Deployed or not your friend is still acting like a witch. I've been deployed 6 times throughout my military career with numerous stations overseas and in the middle east. They have classes for things like PTSD so that the alternatives available aren't just douchebaggery or climbing up a bell tower. A prick is a prick and thats what your pal is doing. Suggest he seek some attention before he realizes that being an asshat isnt enough and he climbs the tower anyways or starts stabbing dogs or hurting his family. But don't encourage that gak. Makes you as bad or worse, since you dont have the same stressers he had.
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