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Red_Lives wrote:On a side note...Most people don't like MLP. Myself, included (god i hate you people) and it would wear one me. There are just some things you should hide if you want to play wargames with people.

I often hide my homosexuality in game stores because it can make people uncomfortable, at first anyways.

the point is people go there to play games. not talk about MLP or other hobbies not gamestore related.

What problem does MLP bring to the table as long as they focus on a game when it is being played? They can scream "Ponies forever!!" every time a unit charges and I wouldn't care as long as when playing the focus is on the game. I might raise my eyebrows to an adult being so into MLP, but I do play games with toy soldiers regularly, so glass houses and all that. I also like many cartoons too. Can't fault them for their likes.

IMNSHO, going to the game store is a social experience centered around gaming. That means that while we are all their to play games, we are also there as friends to socialize, so just about any topic of conversation can come up, even MLP if someone is into it. I may not dig it myself, but tht doesn't give me the right to be rude or obnoxious to those who do like it.

As for you hiding your homosexuality in game stores, that is up to you. Gaming stores aren't exactly a place where people should be waving around their sexuality anyway, gay or straight, so I don't see specifically hiding it to be a necessity. Of course I am one of those rare people who someone could tell me they prefer to have sex with goats and I'd still ask them if they fancied a game or not. It just doesn't matter to me how other people get their jollies as long as it is between consenting adults. My previous FLGS was owned by a guy that many of us suspected was gay and he eventually did come out publically as gay. Didn't impact the store at all or the vibe in the store. My current FLGS is run by a friend I've known long enough and well enough to know was a cross dresser in the past. Again doesn't bother me in the least and doesn't impact the store at all given that many people who frequent in the store are just as aware of that fact.

The only reason to get overly upset about someone's MLP army is complete and total personal insecurity. I wouldn't do such an army myself, but I'm not afraid of liking it if someone else has done a good job with their theme. They bought the minis. They play the army. They need to paint those colors. Who am I to dismiss their efforts and interests because I don't share them specifically?

Skriker

Red_Lives wrote:On a side note...Most people don't like MLP. Myself, included (god i hate you people) and it would wear one me. There are just some things you should hide if you want to play wargames with people.

I often hide my homosexuality in game stores because it can make people uncomfortable, at first anyways.

the point is people go there to play games. not talk about MLP or other hobbies not gamestore related.

I find this insulting. I have autism but I would never hide it in any situation. It's part of what makes me who I am and there is no reason to hide who you are, especially not in a situation where you're interacting with friends and potential future friends. So for you to hide your homosexuality makes me sad because there's no reason to hide it, I mean you're hardly going to walk around saying "look at me I'm gay" now are you? And even if you were so what? Hiding something like your sexuality means not being yourself and you should always be yourself (unless you're acting).

And the same goes for interests. Unless it's a guilty pleasure why shouldn't you be able to bring up another franchise you like? Plus OP's situation includes his GW hobby so it IS related. Plus what about if you're hanging out with friends that are fans of both GW and the other franchise you discuss? There's nothing wrong with talking about that other franchise while you're there.

OP painted an army based on a character from MLP:FIM and the influence was minor and done because they thought it would work well as a combo. There is nothing wrong with that at all. Why shouldn't your interests reflect on how you build your army? Putting your own touch on an army/model is most of the fun of these games.

I admit drawing some of the WH40K themed avatars you see in some users, but Hel, everything is good to practice with the tablet.

I kept them all too, they are rather nice.

Though I'm not really one to brag about anything I like, I just really liked these avatars so I switched it up to these.

I'm confused though.. What does he mean with hiding his homosexuality? Never have I witnessed a situation where someone entering a store would need to answer questions revolving his sexual preference.

Thunderfrog wrote:

@ Deathreaper,

Deployed or not your friend is still acting like a witch. I've been deployed 6 times throughout my military career with numerous stations overseas and in the middle east. They have classes for things like PTSD so that the alternatives available aren't just douchebaggery or climbing up a bell tower. A prick is a prick and thats what your pal is doing. Suggest he seek some attention before he realizes that being an asshat isnt enough and he climbs the tower anyways or starts stabbing dogs or hurting his family. But don't encourage that gak. Makes you as bad or worse, since you dont have the same stressers he had.

Indeed, I'm getting sick and tired of these passive aggressive military types both on the Internet and IRL. "I wuz in the armee. HURR!" is not a trump card that makes you able to win any argument or act like a jeb-end, and that is what that guy is doing. He hiding behind the fact of his military background thinking no-one will argue with him as a result and Deathreaper is enabling him.

I'm aware that not all military types are like this (my best friend is currently serving in Afghanistan), just a certain vocal minority that ruin it for the rest of them.

As I have said, he does not act like that to everyone.

It is only the people that do stupid stuff.

Most people he interacts with he has no issue with.

This thread inspires me to make my next army a Newcron MLP Dynasty.

One of the game stores I used to frequent had a large sign on the door that read

" leave your religion, politics, and personal problems at the door"

I think it's there because people are there to play games, not argue over controversial topics.

Grown men with MLP themed armies could be considered controversial in a store of adult men as its a show for little girls.

I don't buy the BS that MLP is written to cater to "bronies"

For YEARS cartoon developers have been making shows that small kids enjoy, but that parents can watch with them without yanking their hair out. (thinks of barney and tuggs at hair)

Just because there is humor that goes over kids heads does not change the fact that MLP is for girls.

If you have a MLP themed army, you should expect that there will be people who think its awkward or creepy.

You can either get tougher skin, play somewhere else, or stop telling people that your army is MLP themed, because as normal as it is to YOU, it's taboo to MOST men.

Go to Sweden, no one would even lift a freaking' eyebrow.

BarBoBot wrote:
Grown men with MLP themed armies could be considered controversial in a store of adult men as its a show for little girls.

You can either get tougher skin, play somewhere else, or stop telling people that your army is MLP themed, because as normal as it is to YOU, it's taboo to MOST men.

QFT.

I personally agree with John Cheese of Cracked.com on the subject:

"...It's for this reason that I refuse to enter the meta world of the My Little Pony fans. I see that entire culture as an endlessly repeated joke about, "I'm a 25-year-old man, and I watch My Little Pony. Can you believe that, guys? I'm crazy!" It may be more than that; those people may actually be watching the show because it's brilliant and cutting edge. I'll never know because the ironic humor phenomenon is so irritating to me that I avoid it altogether. It's like the Old Navy chain basing their entire image around the idea of, "Look how ridiculously awful this commercial is! Tell your friends so you can all laugh at how dorky we are!"

You can either get tougher skin, play somewhere else, or stop telling people that your army is MLP themed, because as normal as it is to YOU, it's taboo to MOST men.

So is playing with plastic toy soldiers in a game designed for 12 year olds. Most men don't do that, either, but here we are. Real men are comfortable with who they are and what they like, and don't give a gak what other people think of it.

As much as I cannot understand some people's fascination with MLP, I will say that this thread is very much...

You know, Pretre, I often find we don't agree on subjects. But this is definitely one of those rare opportunities where I can tell you I wholeheartedly agree.

I think that's a bit oversimplifying it, really.

There's a perception that the OP's interests should be protected from ridicule.
Why? Because it was an employee involved?
The poster has made it clear in another thread that quite a few people ridicule him for his interest in MLP.

Speaking from experience: People don't just out of the blue start ridiculing you for your interests. You have to advertise those interests for people to start ridiculing them.
I know this is a very much "Blame the victim!" approach, but it's an approach which has not failed me to date. If I go around talking about an interest that will get me ridiculed for whatever reason and then I get ridiculed--should I really be able to complain about that ridicule in a manner which is aimed solely at justifying my own retaliatory actions against the person ridiculing me?

Kanluwen wrote:I think that's a bit oversimplifying it, really.

There's a perception that the OP's interests should be protected from ridicule.
Why? Because it was an employee involved?
The poster has made it clear in another thread that quite a few people ridicule him for his interest in MLP.

Speaking from experience: People don't just out of the blue start ridiculing you for your interests. You have to advertise those interests for people to start ridiculing them.
I know this is a very much "Blame the victim!" approach, but it's an approach which has not failed me to date. If I go around talking about an interest that will get me ridiculed for whatever reason and then I get ridiculed--should I really be able to complain about that ridicule in a manner which is aimed solely at justifying my own retaliatory actions against the person ridiculing me?

Hm.

Well, at my brother's birthday party, one of his friends who knows I'm a furry told one of his other friends who didn't know I'm a furry, plus a room full of my brother's friends, that I'm a furry. The conversation had steered to furries, and I had stayed silent, until I was asked for confirmation. I simply replied in the affirmative, at which point he said he had to get something out of his system, and after that he''d be done, and then proceeded to say loudly - but not quite yell, "Yiff in Hell!" And then the conversation moved on.

I didn't bring furries up, I didn't offer my opinion when it was brought up, I didn't speak at length about it, or at all. I simply confirmed the truth with one word.

Psienesis wrote:

You can either get tougher skin, play somewhere else, or stop telling people that your army is MLP themed, because as normal as it is to YOU, it's taboo to MOST men.

So is playing with plastic toy soldiers in a game designed for 12 year olds. Most men don't do that, either, but here we are. Real men are comfortable with who they are and what they like, and don't give a gak what other people think of it.

Your logic fails.

The OP was at a store SPECIFICALLY there for playing games with toy soldiers....not the monthly bronies meet-up.

If you walk into a GW, you know your walking into a war-game friendly environment.

You should not expect that your fondness for MLP is going to get the same acceptance in a GW as war games do....

Regardless.... The OP has every right to theme his army around MLP, just as I have every right to think its awkward and a bit creepy.

Furries aren't nearly as bad as Bronies. Imo. Though I have no shame rustling one's jimmies.

In my younger years and I had blind, zealous hatred of them. This is all /B/'s fault. As I wasn't even fully aware of what they were. But because my peer's said it was okay to mess with them. I went along with it. Much -much- later. In 2010 I found out that one of my regular friends at the shop was a furry, but for being the longest time afraid to tell me. Quite honestly I took it pretty well. And other then the fact he wears a hoodie with these fox ears on it that looks -incredibly- fruity I have the utmost respect for him!

Egyptians were the first furries. And I think if you study the mannerisms of my people's berserkers. They may of actually thought they were fething bears.

In my defence though. You'd mess with a guy in a fursuit. You would'nt fething mess with a grizzly bear.

And even then. I'm becoming more and more desensitized to it. It's the in your face bronies that need to an hero. The ones who keep to their threads, themselves are fine. But Thor protect your soul if you try talking to me about it.

BarBoBot wrote:I don't buy the BS that MLP is written to cater to "bronies"

For YEARS cartoon developers have been making shows that small kids enjoy, but that parents can watch with them without yanking their hair out. (thinks of barney and tuggs at hair)

Just because there is humor that goes over kids heads does not change the fact that MLP is for girls.

Actually parts of the second season were written with bronies in mind, the writers have even said so themselves. Derpy (a background pony named by fans for her wall eyes) for example is pretty much the Brony mascot and she's made a cameo in almost every episode of season two, has had a few short scenes where she was the center of attention and even spoke in one episode where she got called Derpy. Yes the show's target audience is little girls but the writers are aware of the larger audience and while most of the writing is aimed at the target audience there are moments aimed at the bronies. Heck we even got a shout out in one of the adverts.

Dark wrote:Now this is actually sad. You shouldn't need to hide who you are. As for mlp, I might crack a joke with someone who I know it enjoys it... if you ask if I watch it (because of a pin in my bag, which I don't just use for gaming) I'll be honest, and I'd expect some politeness (same as I don't like manga nor anime, but I don't mind lads with t-shirts and assorted stuff around me).

I admit drawing some of the WH40K themed avatars you see in some users, but Hel, everything is good to practice with the tablet.

In the end, I find it ok to not like what someone like, it's ok to think it's stupid, in wargaming you can even choose to not play with that person, I'm just against being rude or offensive about it, not all have a thick skin that puts a TDA to shame, and we must respect that and be careful.

Edit because somehow I screwed the color tag xD

I don't think anyone should be flaunting their sexual preference, whatever it may be (in your case it seems to be furry), in a game store.

It's almost as obnoxious as using color tags on your text in some misguided attempt to be special. What are you, 12?

Omegus wrote:

Dark wrote:Now this is actually sad. You shouldn't need to hide who you are. As for mlp, I might crack a joke with someone who I know it enjoys it... if you ask if I watch it (because of a pin in my bag, which I don't just use for gaming) I'll be honest, and I'd expect some politeness (same as I don't like manga nor anime, but I don't mind lads with t-shirts and assorted stuff around me).

I admit drawing some of the WH40K themed avatars you see in some users, but Hel, everything is good to practice with the tablet.

In the end, I find it ok to not like what someone like, it's ok to think it's stupid, in wargaming you can even choose to not play with that person, I'm just against being rude or offensive about it, not all have a thick skin that puts a TDA to shame, and we must respect that and be careful.

Edit because somehow I screwed the color tag xD

I don't think anyone should be flaunting their sexual preference, whatever it may be (in your case it seems to be furry), in a game store.

It's almost as obnoxious as using color tags on your text in some misguided attempt to be special. What are you, 12?

yeah beacuse they let 12 year olds into the armed forces

and no you shouldn't go around flaunting it but nor should you hide it

DPBellathrom wrote:yeah beacuse they let 12 year olds into the armed forces

Apparently, their armed forces are indeed made up of 12-year-old girls, since explaining a hobby of toy soldiers is more difficult than MLP.

Omegus wrote:

DPBellathrom wrote:yeah beacuse they let 12 year olds into the armed forces

Apparently, their armed forces are indeed made up of 12-year-old girls, since explaining a hobby of toy soldiers is more difficult than MLP.

maybe they can get their heads round the concept of enjoying a TV show but not the idea of dedicating hours of time into painting and playing with small toy soldiers

You keep glossing over what the show is about. It's not just a TV show, it's a cartoon about magical ponies targetted at little girls.

And come on, if we're honest, it seems like 90% of people barely assemble their crap, much less paint it.

Omegus wrote:You keep glossing over what the show is about. It's not just a TV show, it's a cartoon about magical ponies targetted at little girls.

And come on, if we're honest, it seems like 90% of people barely assemble their crap, much less paint it.

huh really, because I was pretty sure that I heard the creator of the show saying it was designed with all age groups in mind

yeah…..no one bothers building their models these days. Me and my mates just use bases with post it notes stuck to them just like every other gamer at my LGS -_-

They may make ironic references to bronies, but come on... it's about magical ponies with a huge product line that seems to revolve around brushing their hair. Keep deluding yourself.

You'd be surprised who can make it into the armed forces.

Just on the comment of 12 year olds, and what it can be like in wartime situations. Kony anyone?

Shadowbrand wrote:You'd be surprised who can make it into the armed forces.

Just on the comment of 12 year olds, and what it can be like in wartime situations. Kony anyone?

I think those particular children are too busy being forced into prostitution to indulge in either hobby.

Basically at this point, it's basically just arguing over what other people like.

I don't care either way honestly, haters gonna hate, people gonna enjoy what they enjoy.

Omegus wrote:They may make ironic references to bronies, but come on... it's about magical ponies with a huge product line that seems to revolve around brushing their hair. Keep deluding yourself.

oh so you've seen the new show and can thus formulate a valid opinion on the matter? I ask seeing as you seem to have nailed the plot

also, I would hardly call the references ironic considering that the design team works closely with the brony community and there have even been pony toys released with their brony dubbed names.

And their product line? I wouldn’t call it huge….or even big……or well done. Hasbro did a really bad job :3

ZebioLizard2 wrote:Basically at this point, it's basically just arguing over what other people like.

I don't care either way honestly, haters gonna hate, people gonna enjoy what they enjoy.

This is good to go by.

But people have to understand that certain interests and hobbies may not be appreciated by everyone- and they will get picked on. Should it happen? Not at all. But its going to. So you need to have a little bit thicker of skin and just be ignore what you can.

So no OP. You were not justified. You know the concequences of choosing to flaunt your My Little Pony love, and you should be ready to accept the hate and ridicule that you are going to get. Be a bigger person and get over the fact that people don't appreciate what you like.

It's not the responsibility of everyone else to accept everything you like. It's your responsibility to not let getting picked on effect you to the extent that it did.