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Kaldor wrote:

Durza wrote:So you're saying that whenever someone sees something they don't like in an army's paint scheme it's ok for them to ridicule it? Or is it just in this one instance? There's no reason why he should expect people to give him grief over what colour he paints his models. Because they're his. See where I'm going with that?

Getting yourself in a huff because someone gave you crap over a MLP themed 40K army is ridiculous. You should expect people to give you crap when you do that. It comes with the territory.

When you say you have a MLP army, you need to expect that a lot of people are going to respond with "Well, thats pretty stupid"

And if you're expecting that response, then you shouldn't get all bent out of shape about it. Just put on your 'haters gonna hate' smile and strut away.

No. I really shouldn't have to expect people giving me gak over what I like to do in my spare time, or what colour I use to paint things.

Celtic Strike wrote:Failing that I suggest some kind of property damage. A small fire, brick/window introduction, graffiti, urination.

Are you serious? "Someone made fun of me so I'm going to break things!"
Yeah, completely reasonable response.

Durza wrote:No. I really shouldn't have to expect people giving me gak over what I like to do in my spare time, or what colour I use to paint things.

If you are a guy, and you like to wear pink Tutu's and dance around in your spare time, then that may be fine for you, but you should expect people to poke fun at you for doing so...

There are certain things one can reasonably expect.

If some guy painted marines to look like care bears, they would catch flack over it. The same goes with marines that look like unicorns, princesses and have rainbows on them.

To think otherwise is being disingenuous.

If you showed up with an MLP-themed army, I would say your army is dumb and stupid, and that I'm here to play Warhammer 40k, not My Little Pony: Friendship is War.

That's my opinion, and some people here seem to think that an opinion is the most sacred thing on this planet. Truth is, having an opinion doesn't magically make you right. You can think that Gordon Brown don't exist, and it can be the basis on what you build your life on. But, Gordon Brown do exist. If you can prove it however, you would be in the right.

I think MLP is stupid. MLP is a television show designed for young girls. In our social norms, doing the same things as young girls is considered childish and silly. MLP could then rightly be considered stupid. Of course, you won't care, but whatever. Just don't think all people will accept your MLP interest.

I do think you should report that employee though, that was very rude behaviour, and he should be punished.

Marzillius wrote:. In our social norms, doing the same things as young girls is considered childish and silly. MLP could then rightly be considered stupid. Of course, you won't care, but whatever. Just don't think all people will accept your MLP interest.

In our social norms, playing with little toy soldiers is something pre-pubescent boys do.
That being said....

Whether or not the manager thought that, he shouldn't have expressed it in such an inflammatory manner. Saying that he doesn't like your paint scheme is one thing, but the gay bar comments are just plain wrong.

The paint scheme that you posted is fine. The fleur de lie is an incredibly common symbol, and being on a white background makes a nice contrast. I don't particularly care that it is from my little pony because the model looks good.

The my little pony thing is a little against generally accepted social standards, and you should be prepared to field comments from the jerks of the world. To pretend that they don't exist or won't bother you is naive. I personally enjoy wearing a kilt, so I am on the receiving end of a slew of comments. I know it is atypical, I know I will be getting gak-heads saying stuff about it, so I am ready to deal with it when I leave the house.

Don't let the idiots of the world ruin whatever it is that you enjoy, be it sparkly pink ponies or legally not wearing pants.

-cgmckenzie

The guy was a total for acting like that, espeically as he was a staff member of the store. I don't care how silly/girly/out there a customer's army was, when I worked at the local store before it closed up, everything was cool! (even the 'Skittle Marines, or 'Happymeal Tyranids')

The only time I'd ever call out someone on their army and it's colour scheme/theme would be if they were like that complete 'ing ist hole who showed up at the Toronto GT one year with a 'chaos army' all wearing pointy-hooded white robes with the 3 K's painted on them!
Then he had the gall to tell his rather shocked opponent who was non-white that, "hey look, my army's totally themed against you dude!"

rigeld2 wrote:

Celtic Strike wrote:Failing that I suggest some kind of property damage. A small fire, brick/window introduction, graffiti, urination.

Are you serious? "Someone made fun of me so I'm going to break things!"
Yeah, completely reasonable response.

Sarcasm seems to be hard to detect. I need to put some kind of quotation mark.

Also, there's a difference between making fun and hate speech and being a douche-nozzle.

I like how a couple of people on here are so willing to make fun of someone for painting their army funny saying that its against the social norm.
I think we're all forgetting that playing 40K ITSELF is against the social norm. Theres been many times that drunk people have warned into the store yelling at us and calling us [see forum posting rules] but that stop when there was an 'incident' with one of them.

I'm sure you'd like to be able to say that you play 40K and not be met with perplexing looks or down right disgust or mocking. The fact that we, as ENORMOUS, ENORMOUS nerds (Figuratively and sometimes literally) have the gall to call what someone else does as nerdy or against the social norms is unbelievable. We're a community based on playing and painting toy soldiers, something most people grew out of when they were 12. We are outcasts from normal society but still feel its okay to marginalize and make fun of others for doing something slightly different than what we're used to?

Aren't we supposed to be a tolerant people, considering that we hope people will tolerate and understand our hobby. I have most of my Tau army painted up like Cobra soldiers from GI joe. That make me a [see forum posting rules]? It's a hobby, its to express how we feel around other people WHO PLAY THE SAME GODDAMN GAME!

We have to work together to grow the hobby and be inclusive so we can grow the brand and get more people into the game. We do not want to be known as the sweaty donkey-caves who hate other people because then who will come and play with us. Would I have painted my army in such a way, no I wouldn't but I respect someone trying to be expressive and openminded enough to do something like that. As long as the painting was good then we have no reason to hate.

Remember, we're all in this together and being bastards isn't going to help our reputation.

I don't think grown men should be watching My Little Pony.

As the proud creator of the Fortress of Elegance, however, I have to fully support using your miniatures to troll the intolerant.

I never understood the whole MLP thing, but I understand fully why you'd never come back to a store after that kind of treatment. If someone pulls that kinda stuff on me after I finish up my Hylian Knights Marines, I'd probably do the same thing.

Now, I make fun of one of my friends for being a brony all the time, but never with so much bile, or homophobia, and generally in humour.

I honestly don't understand why people would react in such a way. It's like going back to the school days when other kids would make fun of the young wargamers for being nerds. It's idiotic.

Honestly, I'd have no problem playing against an MLP army. Although I'd have to crush it extra hard, heresy and all. Not my call, it's the Inquisition's.

That's a well done paint scheme. Who the heck would hate on that?

DoctorZombie wrote:That's a well done paint scheme. Who the heck would hate on that?

Most likely, a butthurt homophobe. :/ Certainly nothing rational.

Haters of course, for everything there is at least one person who has their own reason they use to hate something; no avoiding it really.

purplefood wrote:That's the Fleur de Lis...
If he has a problem with it he can take it up with Joan of Arc...
At any rate they were being idiots so you're well within your rights to be annoyed and angry at them.

And Joan would promptly slap into last millenium

The Fleur de Lis is also a main part of the Scout Association logo.

To OP. What a tool. Report him, he's the kind of idiot who makes the rest of us look bad.

The only potential references in there are either

a) the colour scheme, to which I will just say that there are many historical and fantastical characters who have had white and gold armour (Yes, Jaime Lannister, I am looking at you)

or b) the name, because of course Celestial MUST mean Celestia and not be anything to do with any of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial

No, Celestial beings such as Angels have no influence on naming conventions in 40k...wait....

Durza wrote:No. I really shouldn't have to expect people giving me gak over what I like to do in my spare time, or what colour I use to paint things.

Yes, you really should. Not everyone is going to like everything you do. Sometimes a lot of people will think what you do is stupid.

And thats ok. They are allowed to have their opinions, just as you are allowed to do whatever you want.

And if people think you're doing something stupid, it's fine for them to tell you that. Sometimes it will catch you by surprise, but using a MLP army should not be one of those times.

There is a big difference between thinking something is stupid ( as personal opinion )
vs
Telling someone what they like is stupid ( this crosses the line of respecting others )

LunaHound wrote:
There is a big difference between thinking something is stupid ( as personal opinion )
vs
Telling someone what they like is stupid ( this crosses the line of respecting others )

This. And nevermind the actual, legitimate insults hurled over it. :/

So long as your army isn't visibly incredibly offensive I personally would not really care what your army is themed. Never seen MLP, have no interest in doing so, would not recognise an army themed on MLP unless you actually had ponies as marines (as at least one person on Dakka has) and at most would give a "huh" of indifference if I set up my army against a [insert whatever would define a MLP army here].

Not really sure how these people who "hate" MLP (and apparently all those who associate in any way with it outside of whatever target audience they think it is supposed to have) would know or care what a "MLP" army actually looks like unless they... I don't know... watch the show...

SilverMK2 wrote:
Not really sure how these people who "hate" MLP (and apparently all those who associate in any way with it outside of whatever target audience they think it is supposed to have) would know or care what a "MLP" army actually looks like unless they... I don't know... watch the show...

"Hey, I like your army. Those are some really cool colors!"
"Thanks, I based it off My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic!"


That's an example as to how it could start out.

People tend to talk about things they like or that interest them. Sometimes we just don't think of it as something which could annoy someone else or even get them in a tizzy because of(in this case) silly internet memes.

SilverMK2 wrote:Not really sure how these people who "hate" MLP (and apparently all those who associate in any way with it outside of whatever target audience they think it is supposed to have) would know or care what a "MLP" army actually looks like unless they... I don't know... watch the show...

Or they have kids, and their kids watch it, and have the toys.

So far the OP has related several people in their early to mid 20's who have all recognised his army as "MLP" inspired in some way (rather than asking about it) and have subsequently gone off on one because of it.

And I'd hope people in their 20'd don't have low-teenage children

I say go for it and drink their tears as your marines just stomp all over their little plastic dudes.

SilverMK2 wrote:So far the OP has related several people in their early to mid 20's who have all recognised his army as "MLP" inspired in some way (rather than asking about it) and have subsequently gone off on one because of it.

And I'd hope people in their 20'd don't have low-teenage children

The OP also has, in another thread, elaborated upon the fact that he has another army which is MLP themed.

It was a staffer? Milk this cow baby. Talk to the regional manager about how the staffer acted, what he said(mention how the manager was nice and loved you) and see if you cant get compensated.

SilverMK2 wrote:So far the OP has related several people in their early to mid 20's who have all recognised his army as "MLP" inspired in some way (rather than asking about it) and have subsequently gone off on one because of it.

And I'd hope people in their 20'd don't have low-teenage children

You don't have to watch something to recognize it. I haven't seen The Avengers, but if I saw Thor, Iron Man and Hawkeye together I would know it's The Avengers.

Marzillius wrote:You don't have to watch something to recognize it. I haven't seen The Avengers, but if I saw Thor, Iron Man and Hawkeye together I would know it's The Avengers.

Maybe it is just me, but comic book characters that have been around for (in some cases) decades, are far less "niche" than the newest incarnation of MLP (which I've only ever heard of on Dakka - and I'm 25 so not exactly past it); certainly in the culture of people in their 20's plus.

Is this some kind of joke? I'm totally against My Little Pony-based armies (like, actual ponies as Marines or whatever), but if I saw this army on the field I would have no idea it was based on My Little Pony at all. It's definitely subtle (and hence tasteful) reference, and I would be happy to play against it.

In fact, if someone immediately recognized that as a My Little Pony army, that would indicate a suspiciously high level of knowledge regarding My Little Pony...

0.o Shouldn't the staffer be up on charges for discrimination? .....If he has the stupidity to treat his clientel with such an attitude, hell even someone on the street, then he probably should at least lose his job for using language that was intended to offend you. Hell was he trying to take a dig against homosexauls and transgenders too? Eugh.... The guy's a major "feth" head and really aught to have a sence of homour. They're toy soldiers, shave your neckbeard Mr Staffer and grow up.

Does this kind of thing not entail charges/prison sentences in the US? It just seems ridiculous that no one called the guy out on it at the time, hell you said someone even joined in. ¬¬

every one has heard of rule 34 correct, well what number is the rule for

Everything that has a fan base has been my little ponyfied.

if it does not have a number it is not rule 22 if thats taken 44 if thats taken 66 if thats taken 88 if that is taken