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Wow, that 3-hours-Carnifex looks great! I have worked 3 hours on small infantry models and got results not nearly up to that skill level...

I own an airbrush myself and would like to use it more regularly - but I really rarely use it, mainly because I'm hesitant to use it indoors, even with open windows. I just read the last 3-4 pages today so I'm not sure if someone brought this up before, but in what workspace do you use your airbrush? Can you recommend some set-up for ventilation and so on? Would be greatly appreciated!

Ifalna wrote:
Aww man, its the elite four. If you get that wrong, how can you expect to be the very best, like no one ever was?

im gonna catch them all anyway

Witzkatz wrote:Wow, that 3-hours-Carnifex looks great! I have worked 3 hours on small infantry models and got results not nearly up to that skill level...

I own an airbrush myself and would like to use it more regularly - but I really rarely use it, mainly because I'm hesitant to use it indoors, even with open windows. I just read the last 3-4 pages today so I'm not sure if someone brought this up before, but in what workspace do you use your airbrush? Can you recommend some set-up for ventilation and so on? Would be greatly appreciated!

I use my airbrush indoors all the time and higly reccomend an airbrush booth such as this one :



Not only does it keep the air clean and the paint dust from spreading all over (red is terrible BTW ) but the light breeze helps models dry faster


It's strange to see this blog so deep on the list! Get some sleep and stop slacking Iffy!

logg_frogg wrote:
It's strange to see this blog so deep on the list! Get some sleep and stop slacking Iffy!

I was on my weekend D: Back to painting today though!

As for the airbrush question, I only use 20psi so I rarely have enough paint in the air to be worried about inhaling, I just sit at my painting desk with a couple of cloths down to catch any paint that doesn't hit the model, in a room with a window slightly open

That carni and goblin look really nice o.o I keep wanting to dabble with airbrushes but I've not gotten to it yet >.<

Damn that Carnifex is bright!

I'm disappointed nobody else picked up on the awesome pokemon reference earlier.

For shame guys, for shame.

Chemical Cutthroat wrote:I'm disappointed nobody else picked up on the awesome pokemon reference earlier.

For shame guys, for shame.

I'm just going to quote myself from a thread over in Dakka Discussions...

Dysartes wrote:Hold the phone - at no point has anything to do with Pokemon been awesome, let alone good and pure...

Sasa0mg wrote:That carni and goblin look really nice o.o I keep wanting to dabble with airbrushes but I've not gotten to it yet >.<

You totally should, they open up a whole new world of sillyness! And fades. Wonderful.. wonderful fades...

Cutthroatcure wrote:Damn that Carnifex is bright!

TIGHT AND BRIGHT.

Dysartes wrote:

Chemical Cutthroat wrote:I'm disappointed nobody else picked up on the awesome pokemon reference earlier.
For shame guys, for shame.

I'm just going to quote myself from a thread over in Dakka Discussions...

Dysartes wrote:Hold the phone - at no point has anything to do with Pokemon been awesome, let alone good and pure...

No Dysartes, bad. No. Go to your corner.


So today was back to work, I did 3 whole things! Wowsers.

I assembled and greenstuffed this gobbo on squig-



Who was a right pain in the bum but I eventually got him together and he is curing overnight. This is the first showpiece model for this commish, which is my top standard.. I'm rather excited. Myself and the owner decided on him being a dark red/orange trailing up to bright yellow on top, with blue warpaint. Going to be lots of fun!

I got a couple more layers down on these giant wolves-



who are also being a pain in the bum as they really don't take paint well, likely due to their casting resin, and I have to let each couple of layers dry for nearly 12 hours before I can layer over it again or it just wipes off >< That should improve as more layers get down though.. hopefully.

And I finished up 3 tabletop test figs for a small Empire commish-



Fighting battles in your pajamas is a great idea lads, kudos. Seriously.

Ifalna wrote:

TIGHT AND BRIGHT.

WOAH there Iffy, tmi dude.

The wolves most likely havent been washed if they're doing that. Might be easier and more likely for the paint to not slough off if you stripped them and washed em properly. Going from personal experience with mould release agents here. Iirc just painting over that gak never works :(

Vitruvian XVII wrote:
WOAH there Iffy, tmi dude.

Spreading the word of Spandy Andy is never tmi. http://www.facebook.com/spandyandyfanpage

Vitruvian XVII wrote:The wolves most likely havent been washed if they're doing that. Might be easier and more likely for the paint to not slough off if you stripped them and washed em properly. Going from personal experience with mould release agents here. Iirc just painting over that gak never works :(

Aye, they have sadly already been washed and fully degreased, the stuff is just like a mirror.. I have my fingers crossed that I am past the problem now as they took the primer decently, I just don't want to risk it and am staying cautious. The figs themselves are really gorgeous, but the resin is the stuff of nightmares. /shakes fist

Ifalna wrote:

logg_frogg wrote:
It's strange to see this blog so deep on the list! Get some sleep and stop slacking Iffy!

I was on my weekend D: Back to painting today though!

As for the airbrush question, I only use 20psi so I rarely have enough paint in the air to be worried about inhaling, I just sit at my painting desk with a couple of cloths down to catch any paint that doesn't hit the model, in a room with a window slightly open

I unfortunately paint in the same room that my models are stored in
I wasn;t so concerned about the odd coloured stuff that was coming out of my nose after painting but having to clean rainbow coloured dust off of all my shelves and models wasn't siting well!

But like you said, I wasn't having the problem at 20psi I was having it at 50 psi when I was basecoating with a thicker mix

Looking forward to seeing some painted squigs!

Ifalna wrote:

Vitruvian XVII wrote:
WOAH there Iffy, tmi dude.

Spreading the word of Spandy Andy is never tmi. http://www.facebook.com/spandyandyfanpage

Vitruvian XVII wrote:The wolves most likely havent been washed if they're doing that. Might be easier and more likely for the paint to not slough off if you stripped them and washed em properly. Going from personal experience with mould release agents here. Iirc just painting over that gak never works :(

Aye, they have sadly already been washed and fully degreased, the stuff is just like a mirror.. I have my fingers crossed that I am past the problem now as they took the primer decently, I just don't want to risk it and am staying cautious. The figs themselves are really gorgeous, but the resin is the stuff of nightmares. /shakes fist

I've recently started washing my resin miniatures in my ultrasonic cleaner for the same reason. I don; know what FW uses for mould release but it doesn't like to come off if it's on nice and thick!

those remind me of my pjs codpiece and all.. a guy can never be too protected

Ifalna wrote:No Dysartes, bad. No. Go to your corner.

The world is my corner, Ifalna - looking forwards to seeing how the Squig Hopper turns out. Which manufacturer are the slippery wolves from?

You've got lots of interesting things on the go now Iffy.

I have a similar problem with a FW mini I picked up where the undercoat wont stay on, but I think I've got past that stage once its on though theres no issues.

logg_frogg wrote:
I unfortunately paint in the same room that my models are stored in
I wasn;t so concerned about the odd coloured stuff that was coming out of my nose after painting but having to clean rainbow coloured dust off of all my shelves and models wasn't siting well!
But like you said, I wasn't having the problem at 20psi I was having it at 50 psi when I was basecoating with a thicker mix

Haha, if it was 50psi I can imagine there was quite a cloud of paint getting into the air every time you used it, I would have had to use a breathing mask in that case. As it is though, I sprayed pretty much all day today and don't feel like I inhaled anything, but I do need to get a brush cleaner jug so I can spray the airbrush cleaner fluid in without spreading any vapor. That stuff is nasty.

Norn King wrote:Looking forward to seeing some painted squigs!

On the way!

logg_frogg wrote:[
I've recently started washing my resin miniatures in my ultrasonic cleaner for the same reason. I don; know what FW uses for mould release but it doesn't like to come off if it's on nice and thick!

An ultrasonic cleaner is something I have had my eye on for quite a while, for the airbrush also. You can get very cheap little ones but I'm not sure if they would do the job very well. What are you using and how much did it cost?

Rogue Wolves wrote:those remind me of my pjs codpiece and all.. a guy can never be too protected

I am sure they would totally deflect cannonballs and large swords

Dysartes wrote:
The world is my corner, Ifalna - looking forwards to seeing how the Squig Hopper turns out. Which manufacturer are the slippery wolves from?

I'm actually not sure who made them, I will contact the owner and find out

GiraffeX wrote:You've got lots of interesting things on the go now Iffy.
I have a similar problem with a FW mini I picked up where the undercoat wont stay on, but I think I've got past that stage once its on though theres no issues.

I know, so much stuff to paint! I'm hoping I am past that stage now too and I won't have any flake off, but I am being extra careful anyway, just incase.

Today I spent a while ( a crazy big while) trying to get a nice strong yellow to red fade on the big squig with the airbrush. It was a bit of a lesson in dexterity but I got his bases down and he now looks like a tropical fruity cocktail, so I seriously approve.

(I am super tired and just went with the first batch of photos, they aren't the best, sorry)


Will be starting on shading and highlighting him tomorrow.

I also got quite far with a Nurgly tank -



Which was only meant to be tabletop but I got carried away with. Needs to have its dribbly nasty parts painted in, some ooze, and metals added. I am now crazy tired and am off to bed!

Wow, plenty going on over here.

Tequila Sunrise Squiq looks like it's going to be wild.

Rhino looks fantastic, weathering is great.

Is Boba trying to train the thunder-pups?

The squig looks brilliant! Great work on painting thr Rhino as well.

So many wolves

Both the squig and the rhino look great so far.
But while I really like the weathering, I think you should paint some more oil stains on it, right now most of them are on the hatch.....
and drill the exhaust pipes

@logg_frogg and Ifalna: Thanks for the feedback about indoor airbrushing. I've only used a can of pressurized air for airbrushing until now for monetary reasons, and that thing basically does whatever pressure it wants...looks like it's time to pay for a proper compressor and properly adjustable pressure settings!

I think it's cool how you can paint something as bright and shiny as that tropical squig and something as dark, subdued and "realistic" as that plague rhino at the same time. Such different styles, but both look sweet!

PS: Oh, and I agree with MrMerlin about the exhaust pipes. Easily done, but I think it adds so much to the realism of the model!

I'm already stretching the limits of my tabletop fee on it, but screw it, I'll drill the pipes.

Im too nice. TOO NICE.

Nice Boba Fett Munny BTW...Never thought a Bounty hunter could be cute, but there you go.

He is pretty fantastic, there is a matching Chewie in the room somewhere too.

This is the unit I have been using Iffy



It's pretty much the heaviest duty *home style* unit tha you can buy and it cost me $100 + shipping.
I am quite happy with it but am looking to upgrade to a comercial style unit for approx $130.(similar to this one: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/DSA50SE-SK2-FULL-SET-INDUSTRIAL-GRADE-3L-3-17QT-250W-DIGITAL-ULTRASONIC-CLEANER?item=290604862797&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D2%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8247319298606037777)
The important things to look for when purchasing an ultrasonic cleaner are quality of construction and the amount of control you have. more control over heat and time are essential to getting a good clean!
If you are looking it's worth saving the extra few dollars to get into a small comercial/industrial style unit.
Basically if you aren't spending $100 for a new unit you are probably wasting your money and nobody likes that!


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I almost forgot to mention, Excellent work on the tank!
That is the style I want to do my nurgle tanks in, loving it!

Ifalna wrote:I'm already stretching the limits of my tabletop fee on it, but screw it, I'll drill the pipes.

Im too nice. TOO NICE.

But, now, when someone commissions a tank from you, they'll expect "Tabletop standard" to include drilling gun barrels and/or exhaust pipes.

Briancj wrote:
But, now, when someone commissions a tank from you, they'll expect "Tabletop standard" to include drilling gun barrels and/or exhaust pipes.

Ack.. yes. This is so true.

No, I'm going to have to put my foot down, I have to look at how much I'm getting paid and not make this silly, I'd say I've already gone a bit above tabletop with it, adding drill outs is just being unfair on myself and any future clients.

BYW Iffy... speaking of work you didn't get paid for. I loved the artwork you put on the box you sent my orks in. I'll keep and post it. I'd send the next batch of figures back to you in that same box except it looks like it got pretty squished on the trip over-seas.

However... I do remember winning a little contest you sponsored on your blog a while back... trying to guess your favorite drink or some such, the prize for which was a drawing... I'll count the box as my prize for that!