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Sorry if this is already known, but i found it quite interesting. I copied and pasted it from Bell Of Lost Souls, and it was compiled by Bigred, i think...


Early word is that Necrons may be slated for the Q2-09 40k release slot. There is another codex scheduled ahead of them but there is conflicting data on what it is (currently bouncing around between IG, Space Wolves, Dark Eldar). The info reported so far is:


Removal of the C'tan from the Codex as fieldable units (they are still in the fluff).

The C'tan are to be moved over to Apocalypse where they will make an appearance as much more powerful single figures (possibly with attendant new oversized Forgeworld minis).

The big new HQ replacement for them will be entirely new tiered-level Necron Lords. Read the Apocalypse Necron background page for insight into what may be coming, but there is talk of Bronze, Silver, Gold, possibly even Platinum Lords.
Lords are said to have multiple special abilities and options, and certtain levels of Lords may re-arrange the Force Org chart for certain units, making different army builds possible. An example of an option was an advanced necrodermis, allowing the Lord to mimic his C,tan masters (and conveniently allow for the use of the existing C'Tan minis).

There will be Necron Lord named characters.

The rest of the army is described as getting a small number of new units, and having several existing units rearranged by Force Org category.

In general, the Necron army is desribed as being somewhat "buffed".

About the 3rd or 4th time this has been posted. Sorry!

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:About the 3rd or 4th time this has been posted. Sorry!

never the less, I wish to comment, i sincerely hope 'crons get a different troops option as well as scarabs and warriors, I dont play them, but it would be nice to have some thing tokill, and then kill again a bit later

It'd be nice to see the Neccies get a bit more choice. They kind of do suffer on that front, even if the choices they do have are pretty damned powerful.

I know my housemate who plays 'em does find the small selection of units somewhat of a downer about them, although I think they do get some of the best wargear in the game.

The Necron special character thing sounds cool.

I think Flayed Ones will either get Rending and stay as an Elite slot, or they'll remain just as they are now, but become the second Troop choice.

Pariahs will become "Necrons" and become the pick of the litter HtH choice.

Tomb Spyders will become a big Dreadnought/Carnifex type option.

Wraiths will get Rending at the minimum, but more likely Power Weapons.

We'll Be Back is almost 100% assured to get changed into Feel No Pain. No, this does NOT make them Nurgle wanabes, they had WBB well before FNP even existed. The two rules do mostly the same thing, but WBB does it in an unnecessarily far more convoluted manner.

Gauss won't change, but they'll get other new anti-tank options, or maybe just beef up the guns on Heavy Destroyers to Rail Gun levels of uberness.

All just personal opinion/wish list.

Aduro wrote:

Tomb Spyders will become a big Dreadnought/Carnifex type option.

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Good. Tomb Spyders are a bit "flat" at the moment. I envisage some huge monstrosity, floating more or less upright (a bit like they do in Dawn of War when they attack) with a multitude of nasty looking arms/legs.

pleasemakeflayedonesawesomepleasemakeflayedonesawesomepleasemakeflayedonesawesomepleasemakeflayedonesawesomepleasemakeflayedonesawesome

and thats all.

Well, I will say one good thing for so few options. It's made it much easier to max out the force org with all the available options. No wargear to speak of makes it real easy, no magnets required.

It's also kinda dull just having one Troops choice that never changes ever.

I say we're looking at:

Lord w/Loads of Options
Several special characters that make the Lord redundant.
Pariahs (buffed)
Immortals (plastic kit)

Warriors (special rules dependant on the special character you take)
Flayed Ones (with Rending - maybe plastic kit)

Scarabs maybe as a non-scoring Troop.

Wraiths w/Power Weapons
Destroyers nerfed.

Monoliths nerfed.
Tomb Spyders buffed
Heavy Destroyers buffed (plastic kit)

(/speculation off)

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:It's also kinda dull just having one Troops choice that never changes ever.

I say we're looking at:

Lord w/Loads of Options
Several special characters that make the Lord redundant.
Pariahs (buffed)
Immortals (plastic kit)

Warriors (special rules dependant on the special character you take)
Flayed Ones (with Rending - maybe plastic kit)

Scarabs maybe as a non-scoring Troop.

Wraiths w/Power Weapons
Destroyers nerfed.

Monoliths nerfed.
Tomb Spyders buffed
Heavy Destroyers buffed (plastic kit)

(/speculation off)

BYE

Edited for off-topic content. Keep it On-Topic and polite, ShumaGorath. - Iorek

Thanks for that... 'contribution'... there Shummy.

If that was some misguided attempt to raise my ire, consider it reported.
If it was some misguided attempt at humor, consider it failed.

BYE

Kroq Gar wrote:Early word is that Necrons may be slated for the Q2-09 40k release slot.

Guard has been confirmed for Q2 2009.

Orks 2 and Apoc 3 are already slotted for 1H, so that fills things through June.

So anything else (i.e. Necrons, Woofs, DE, Sisters, Inquistion) would be Q3 at the earliest.

I'd love to see a plastic Necron Lord kit with various wargear so you could easily pimp him out if wanted to.

I'd love to see new Pariah models which look a bit more like those from the artwork, some of those pics had this weird Species/Giger (yes, I know he designed the creature from Species) vibe to it.

And FW making C'tan would be amazing! I'd hope GW will make more xenos stuff soon because I've kind of had it with the endless Land Raider variants and Death Korps of Krieg stuff we've been seeing for the last couple of years!

I hope they get an update soon. They have serious problems under the 5th edition rule set.

-Logic

H.B.M.C. wrote:Thanks for that... 'contribution'... there Shummy.

If that was some misguided attempt to raise my ire, consider it reported.
If it was some misguided attempt at humor, consider it failed.

BYE

As a man with no sense of humor you must mash that button all the time.

i would love to see a bad ass spider model, the one they have now is attrocious. Something like the big therion model in AT/43, that thing looks immpresive.

i think us necron players need to be treated fairly. for about a decade we have suffered with a tiny army list, no strength 10 weapons, high point cost and disappearing.

i just hope they keep c'tan's

Reecius wrote:i would love to see a bad ass spider model, the one they have now is attrocious.

What about the big LOTR spider? You don't like that?

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Reecius wrote:i would love to see a bad ass spider model, the one they have now is attrocious.

What about the big LOTR spider? You don't like that?

Think he's talking the Tomb Spider model, which as I also noted is a bit emotionally flat. I want to see it rearing up (not unlike the Shelob model), with its legs ready to disembowel some Space Marines

The LOTR spider may be badass, but it could never be as badass as a necron spider.

ALIi B wrote:i think us necron players need to be treated fairly. for about a decade we have suffered with a tiny army list, no strength 10 weapons, high point cost and disappearing.

i just hope they keep c'tan's

Nightbringer is Strength 10...

but it sounds like the C'Tan are moving into Apocalypse :S Maybe they'll upgrade Monolith's Particle Whip to S10.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Reecius wrote:i would love to see a bad ass spider model, the one they have now is attrocious.

What about the big LOTR spider? You don't like that?

he means tombspider... not general GW spider models

Yes, and the Tomb Spider could be redone and restyled similar to the LotR Spider.

I rather like the tomb spider. From an artistic perspective it's quite good looking, and has a very solid and alien feel too it. I would warn against going to fluid and organic in the feel of the necrons, you would risk making them look generic in doing so.

Hell, of all the models in the range I would say that the tomb spider is the most necron for me. The rest are just badly designed generi-bots with stupid green tubes on their generi-guns. The tomb spider actually looks like it belongs with all the symbology and architecture used in the fluff.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Yes, and the Tomb Spider could be redone and restyled similar to the LotR Spider.

I can't take this!!! I'm turning on The H.B.M.C. signal!!!

Please let it be a cloudy night over Dakka City...

Lol, we're not suggesting an organic spider like Shelob, just a similar pose. They can more or less keep the same look (apart from the flappy legs, they have to go!), just make it look less static.

I've said my peace on Necrons many times. I think the path forward is reasonably clear, but we all know GW has a way of surprising us.

Current rumors say that the type of Lord you select will influence the FOC. Presumably a Destroyer Lord would allow Destroyers as Troops, etc. It's also hinted at in the new rulebook where it says that there are different levels of Lords with different functions.

I really wouldn't expect to see much in the way of new units. If the existing units would just work properly, there'd be plenty of variety IMO.

Okay, so I will rehash this item -- the current Tomb Spyder is an *awful* model. Give it the Carnifex treatment in terms of plastic set and game options, and you'd have something there.

I'd definitely like to see something done with the Pariahs. Their abilities are great, the background is good, the models are okay, but I just don't want to play them because they seem to be ill-suited for CC, which is what they're supposed to be there for. Not being Necrons is bad, but A1 really sucks. Especially since we have no way to up that...no extra weapons, nothing. I'd love to see them get another attack with that warscythe. Getting changed to Necron would be great, but getting one more attack would be better.

The Tomb Spyder model...it does inspire a lot of "meh". It would be cool to see something that looked like a Necronified spider. Or, we could change the name to the Tomb Coconut Crab and leave it as is. (Seriously, have you seen those things? They're like the size of a small car.)

I don't know about new units, but I'd like to see a shuffling of what we have. Moving Scarabs and Flayed Ones to the troops section would be a good start.

Rending for Flayed Ones, power weapons for Wraiths. That fits the fluff; big-ass claws get Rending, phasing claws can pass through armor and then attack the flesh. Sorta like the Vision.

And I'm sick of WBB vs FNP! Yes, essentially they're the same thing, they just go off at different times, but I like the mechanics of WBB. It's always been part of the Necron, since the mini-dex in WD #whatever, and it would be a shame to see it go because players argue about it so much. It ain't that hard to understand; what we have is some players trying to exploit it and some players just being obtuse. Keep WBB!

Phase Out on the other hand...it would be nice if they took it on a unit by unit basis, rather than the army as a whole. When a unit drops to 25%, it disppears. Maybe have a rule that allows the Monolith to being them back and attach them to a unit within 6" or something. I don't know...

Tomb Spyders will become a big Dreadnought/Carnifex type option.

New sculpt in plastic would be nice. On second thought the whole cron line should be in plastic. I have seen regular warriors converted to look like immortals and they are nicer than the metal sculps and a quarter of the cost.