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 tauist wrote:


I was referring to the Tactical Ploy "Reposition" the Pathfinder team has. It allows a dash which can be performed through Engagement but cannot end within.

Oh I see.
Reading it, it explictly calls out that you can move within engagement range - fly does not.

Looking at the sprue pics of the Corsairs, it seems that the alternative build for them is in fact a shuriken catapult, not pistols and power weapons?

Also, alas, seems that the cloaks aren't optional and include the upper back parts of the models. What a shame. I need to check if I could somehow use back pieces from other Eldar kits in lieu of the caped back pieces..

EDIT: I am mistaken — it's a three sprue kit! Including both shuriken catapults & pistols and powerweapons for every model. Another superb kit

It looks like Shuriken Pistols are mostly right handed and Power Weapons left handed which is the opposite of how Storm GuardianS are built. Also, 24 head options if I counted correctly!

EDIT: Also, looks like bucketloads of unboxing videos and reviews are now live at youTube.

jullevi wrote:
It looks like Shuriken Pistols are mostly right handed and Power Weapons left handed which is the opposite of how Storm GuardianS are built. Also, 24 head options if I counted correctly!

EDIT: Also, looks like bucketloads of unboxing videos and reviews are now live at youTube.

The opposite handedness with the guardians kit is great, means they can be mixed and matched quite effortlessly.

Time to check out some youtube reviews!

 tauist wrote:
WD474 Harlequin rules have apparently leaked, along with pictures of the cards. They are physical cards, but unfortunately they have those marks on the corners so I'm not sure how they can be disguised to look like all the other KT21 cards. GW Fail

Why would you need to? You'd choose your Tac Ops deck as normal and use these as reference so you're not having to keep going back and forth between books/WD.

When shuffling your Tac Ops you'll be able to tell which are the standard cards and which are the Factions Ops.
Also your opponent will be able to tell if you've pick a Faction Op or a Standard Op before you reveal them.

It's certainly an imperfect solution, but I do appreciate them doing it rather than not.

 judgedoug wrote:

 tauist wrote:
WD474 Harlequin rules have apparently leaked, along with pictures of the cards. They are physical cards, but unfortunately they have those marks on the corners so I'm not sure how they can be disguised to look like all the other KT21 cards. GW Fail

Why would you need to? You'd choose your Tac Ops deck as normal and use these as reference so you're not having to keep going back and forth between books/WD.

That's a good point! This is the way.

Preordered Nachmund. The initial youtube reviews seem encouraging, CanURollACrit even stated both teams as being "too balanced"

Guerrilla Miniatures will be playing all the Nachmund missions next week on their channel. That should give some real world insight into how the new teams play.

New White Dwarf turned up today. The 18 Kill Team cards are 3 tactics cards for each of the 6 boxed game Kill Teams (so includes the 2 Chaos and Corsair teams released next week).

So with Kill Team now, as I still didn’t invest since the last version.
If I want to start Harlequins which I see were mentioned a page back, as I was looking at getting them.
I require a team of 8, two of which are special characters to buy? Right?
There’s no more just grab one guy her one guy there. It’s almost like getting squads for 40k, just slightly smaller amounts needed etc?

^According to the new Harli rules in WD474, some people got there's early, yes 8 figures is the go.

1 Leader + 7 dancers (of which 1 can be a death jester and 1 can be a shadowseer).

There's also restrictions on how the weapon loadouts go, like only 1 fusion pistol for the kill team and only 1 neuro disruptor for the kill team - so be careful how you assemble your team.

 kirotheavenger wrote:
When shuffling your Tac Ops you'll be able to tell which are the standard cards and which are the Factions Ops.
Also your opponent will be able to tell if you've pick a Faction Op or a Standard Op before you reveal them.

It's certainly an imperfect solution, but I do appreciate them doing it rather than not.

When you shuffle your tac ops deck, use the extra cards that come in each deck labeled 'faction tac op 1, 2, 3'. Mark the harlequin cards with a dice, 1, 2, 3 and just leave them on the side.
When you choose your tac ops, associate 1 to 1, etc, until all are selected. When it's time to reveal them, reveal the blank tac ops card and point to the appropriate harlequin one and use that from then on.

Not graceful, not perfect, but it works.

 kirotheavenger wrote:
When shuffling your Tac Ops you'll be able to tell which are the standard cards and which are the Factions Ops.

Assuming they're sleeved - as they should be, to prevent wear and tear - and that the sleeves have an opaque back, what's going to be so obvious about the difference here?

Danny76 wrote:
So with Kill Team now, as I still didn’t invest since the last version.
If I want to start Harlequins which I see were mentioned a page back, as I was looking at getting them.
I require a team of 8, two of which are special characters to buy? Right?
There’s no more just grab one guy her one guy there. It’s almost like getting squads for 40k, just slightly smaller amounts needed etc?

Correct. The option to mix models freely within a faction is gone. The points based team selection system of KT18 (the previous edition) is replaced by "pointless" team selection lists in KT21.

There are two main points to be made with the new team selection system. Firstly, having static team selection lists will enforce a bit more balanced teams for competitive play, as one cannot spam special weapons and elite operatives anymore. Secondly, now that the team lists are more aligned with 40K units, it is easier to play 40K Crusade / Narrative Campaigns which mix Kill Team and regular 40K missions.

 Dysartes wrote:

 kirotheavenger wrote:
When shuffling your Tac Ops you'll be able to tell which are the standard cards and which are the Factions Ops.

Assuming they're sleeved - as they should be, to prevent wear and tear - and that the sleeves have an opaque back, what's going to be so obvious about the difference here?

Thickness, almost certainly. The card stock GW put in the last few WD was closer to actual playing cards than I’ve seen them do before but still not quite there. Assuming they’re using the same stuff, it will be too thick and will therefore shuffle differently and be quite obvious when dealing.
Of course this isn’t poker and you and your opponent have separate decks so stacking the cards makes barely any sense but it’s still there. You could try double-sleeving the “real” cards and single-sleeving the punch-outs…

 kirotheavenger wrote:
When shuffling your Tac Ops you'll be able to tell which are the standard cards and which are the Factions Ops.
Also your opponent will be able to tell if you've pick a Faction Op or a Standard Op before you reveal them.

It's certainly an imperfect solution, but I do appreciate them doing it rather than not.

I'm still not quite sure what you mean.

Choose your cards as normal.

When you reveal one during the course of play, replace it with the hand dandy card instead of just staring at text that says "Faction Tac Op 2" and trying to remember the parameters.

If the KT boxes follow the 40K boxes likes SoB v Tau/Eldar v Chaos, I guess we rule out Squats KT box soon as they won't be till later in the year?

Unless that’s where we get them first.
Then the release later in the year is codex, main box, and then the next revealed items etc.

Would be nice. But who knows what would be next in a box with them

I'd expect an Army Set for them before a Kill Team if I was going to be a hundred percent honest.

White Dwarf KT list or being packed in with some other goodies and scenery would be the most likely.

I thought Catachan vs Nids was the rumour for the Q2 KT box? If so, that'd leave NuSquats as a possibility for Q3 or Q4 box

Could turn out differently too I suppose...

It'll be Squats/ Nids.

 Grot 6 wrote:
It'll be Squats/ Nids.

Warzone: Buffet!

Is that why the previewed squat has a bionic foot? A touch of finger (well, toe at least) food for a hungry hive fleet?

Maybe it goes better with cheese?

Maybe I’ll shut up now and get me coat…

Really hoping for another box info drop soon..

But my main question.
What issues of White Dwarf had the various Kill Teams in them?
Is there an easy way to get ahold of them? Like I want to look into a Harlequin team for instance..

Danny76 wrote:
Really hoping for another box info drop soon..

But my main question.
What issues of White Dwarf had the various Kill Teams in them?
Is there an easy way to get ahold of them? Like I want to look into a Harlequin team for instance..

The Harlequin Killteam is in WD 474.

There're several youtuber reviews of those killteam.

That’s a good shout. I did watch one for info, but it never actually said the issue.
I’ll grab 474 though cheers!

I wonder if a Chaos Cultist team will merit a big box release instead of a White Dwarf release, now that the list they were part of of was replaced by the Chaos Legionaries Kill Team.

The Goonhammer website pointed out back in September about the cultists in the KT CSM list:

and that the cultist entry should have been more based on the Cultist models they still sell (the Blackstone ones) and not the cultist models they stopped producing at the end of 7th edition (try buying cultist flamers and shotgun leaders, you can’t from GW)

I believe there's no cultist flamers or shotgun leaders in today preview. Maybe a new all cultist list in WD perhaps to go with the new models?

People are reckoning Traitor Guard to be announced in next KT box set.

Looking at the new Marines...

Cannot unsee!

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