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Grim.Badger wrote:Now listen carefully, for I will say this only once....

Vanguard are Fast Attack ffs, read the codex! Seems everyone thinks they're Elite but they're not. I can see a lot of p***ed off BA players if the VAS don't become Fast Attack as well.

Uh, what are you talking about FFS? Making them Fast Attack means less slots for Speeders and Bikes. Besides, they've always been elites.

Anyways, thanks for linking to the bit about an earlier release schedule. My only concern is that Harry seemed to think it was too early, but who knows?

VAS should be Elites. They're VETERANS.

Sure, but if you take Dante you should get veteran assault marines squads as elites, troops and fast attack and they're all scoring.

bhsman wrote:

Grim.Badger wrote:Now listen carefully, for I will say this only once....

Vanguard are Fast Attack ffs, read the codex! Seems everyone thinks they're Elite but they're not. I can see a lot of p***ed off BA players if the VAS don't become Fast Attack as well.

Uh, what are you talking about FFS? Making them Fast Attack means less slots for Speeders and Bikes. Besides, they've always been elites.

Anyways, thanks for linking to the bit about an earlier release schedule. My only concern is that Harry seemed to think it was too early, but who knows?

I have never taken, nor wanted to take speeders or bikes for my BA.
More jump packs, most definitely.
Maybe they need to create a FA jumppacker now that they have shifted them to troops.
Or give a thematic choice in the FA slots.

Same.

If I wanted Speeders & Bikes, I'd play as DA (RW) or basic SM (WS).

However, mass JPs are unique to BAs, so I'd like that.

Being able to take Landspeeders as Fast to support AM Troops works fine for me.

BA can already take up to twelve Jump Pack units, though, and shifting them to FA wouldn't change that. The only thing it would do would be to cut down on the overall anti-tank of the list.

Is it just me or does there seem like not too much interest in a blood angels codex..

I know the codex is far far away but I'm surprised that space wolves have such a greater reaction.. (people love or hate wolves)

Maybe blood angel palyers dont say too much.

Shaman wrote:Is it just me or does there seem like not too much interest in a blood angels codex..

I know the codex is far far away but I'm surprised that space wolves have such a greater reaction.. (people love or hate wolves)

Maybe blood angel palyers dont say too much.

It isn't THAT far away, actually...

And, I think there's a fair amount of interest in it, but yes, a Xenos or revamped Inquisition Codex would probably generate a lot more heat.

246 replies to a rumor post is not saying much?

I think a big factor is that the PDF codex was much more recent than the SW book that ran for 3rd, all of 4th and up until recently.

Also it isn't all powerful, but it isn't stupid broken weak either.

Well, a big part of it has to be that we haven't gotten any juicy tidbits about what's in it or what comes with it. We figure they'll be a new plastic kit or two, maybe a resculpted character (lemartes!), but it's all speculation. We can take cues from the depth of the SW dex that the BA dex will be similarly flavorful, but really none of has a clue to what it'l be.

Arschbombe wrote:Well, a big part of it has to be that we haven't gotten any juicy tidbits about what's in it or what comes with it. We figure they'll be a new plastic kit or two, maybe a resculpted character (lemartes!), but it's all speculation. We can take cues from the depth of the SW dex that the BA dex will be similarly flavorful, but really none of has a clue to what it'l be.

Oh god, PLEASE resculpt Lemartes He's had the same model for as long as I can remember. It's the same for other BA characters, but at least those look decent.

I'd like it if Moriar the Chosen was brought back too, I miss a Dread with D6+2 attacks

Double Post Daemon. AGH my first post has gone!!

lame.

Oh well What I said was I was thinking about it and the reason this thread is so short is that no one hates blood angels..

Whats their derogative name?

Cause we have smurfs, furries and lame monks. Red marines ooooh.

Neith wrote:Oh god, PLEASE resculpt Lemartes He's had the same model for as long as I can remember. It's the same for other BA characters, but at least those look decent.

ironically, you've chosen the model in the blood angel range that is the NEWEST SCULPT outside of space hulk!! lol the rest of the characters are all second edition or older. that being said, he's definitely the ugliest. he looks like he tripped into a vat of glue over in the baal armory and then fell into a pile of purity seals; later that same day, he decided to test out his new jump pack in the local chapter wind tunnel. and that's when GW decided to sculpt him...

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Lemartes a Mike McVey sculpt?

Maybe he did it as a joke before he left for PP, and GW, just like with Morley's Nagash, took it happily.

I hope they give some DC-type bits for the Dread on a BA sprue. Or maybe 2 dread plates.

Yeah I don't use Lemartes. I converted a SM chap with a JP and just use him as counts as Lemartes. It looks so much better.

warboss wrote:

Neith wrote:Oh god, PLEASE resculpt Lemartes He's had the same model for as long as I can remember. It's the same for other BA characters, but at least those look decent.

ironically, you've chosen the model in the blood angel range that is the NEWEST SCULPT outside of space hulk!! lol the rest of the characters are all second edition or older. that being said, he's definitely the ugliest. he looks like he tripped into a vat of glue over in the baal armory and then fell into a pile of purity seals; later that same day, he decided to test out his new jump pack in the local chapter wind tunnel. and that's when GW decided to sculpt him...

Wow, that I didn't know. I joined in early Third Edition, and didn't collect BA until late third. I just assumed Lemartes was an ancient model because of how bad it looks in comparison to say...Dante or Mephiston. I mean, those two are pretty generic posed, but Lemartes looks like he's stood in a wind tunnel for no apparent reason other than to look stupid.

Shaman wrote:Is it just me or does there seem like not too much interest in a blood angels codex..

GW's clampdown on public information release has a side effect of supressing buildup.

@ DD It also supresses ZOMG my codex is ruined (sorta) before the codex comes out.

The gnashing of teeth factor. "Jump packs fast again I quit blood angels!"


I still think theres no interest cause no one hates blood angels, without complaining dakka would be about 30 threads a year.

@Shaman: No arguments there.

Shaman wrote:@ DD It also supresses ZOMG my codex is ruined (sorta) before the codex comes out.

The gnashing of teeth factor. "Jump packs fast again I quit blood angels!"


I still think theres no interest cause no one hates blood angels, without complaining dakka would be about 30 threads a year.

Well, thankfully that's not true.

But remember, it is up to YOU to help make Dakka even better than it already is.

And, er, go Blood Angels!

Grim.Badger wrote:

Da Boss wrote:Vanguard are limited by being Elites...

Now listen carefully, for I will say this only once....

Vanguard are Fast Attack ffs, read the codex! Seems everyone thinks they're Elite but they're not. I can see a lot of p***ed off BA players if the VAS don't become Fast Attack as well.

Elite, FA, it doesn't matter too much- either way they're limited to maximum three, and are competing with much better options like Speeders and Attack Bikes.
Thanks for the correction though.

Hmm, March? I wonder if that's early March...in time for Adepticon?

skrulnik wrote:Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Lemartes a Mike McVey sculpt?

He is, yes. Towards the end of his time with GW, McVey suddenly started producing greens as well as painting... Came out about the same time as the rather odd-looking Wolf Scouts that GW are for some reason selling through the webstore instead of the much better (and more appropriately veteran-looking) ones that were released three and a half minutes later.

Not knocking McVey... the man is incredibly talented with a paintbrush. But those first few sculpts really weren't up to the standard that GW was generally hitting at that time.

Youre being way too nice Insaniak.. Lemartes is one of the worst sculpts post 2nd ed models (IE no rogue trader blobs of pewter)

It is garbage that is rivaled only by dark eldar and I consider it to be far worse considering the rest of the marine line is stellar

Mike McVey is a great modeller and painter but man oh man that Lemartes sculpt was rough.

Yes, he looks like he tripped on a rock and twisted his ankle. Poor Lemartes, is there another 40K model out there that is the suject of more hate?

Cue photos of Dark Eldar miniatures...

Kirasu wrote:Youre being way too nice Insaniak.. Lemartes is one of the worst sculpts post 2nd ed models (IE no rogue trader blobs of pewter)

Yet is still infinitely better than Cortez.

Yeah I forgot about Captain Anorexia

It almost makes one long for the generic Morley poses...

And of course, let's not forget Doomrider.

No, on second thought, let's forget Doomrider.