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I haven't wanted anything from forge world in quite a long time but this just makes me say "mother of god". SOLD!!

I´m praying that they don´t releasse the Mk V as well. Because if they do, my last argument against starting a pre heresy BA army will be gone, and I´m sooooo going to miss being able to afford food and stuff like that......

You're in trouble then, as they've already previews a MKV helmeted marine...

It is a bit different, a variation on a theme I suppose, but it is still very, very nice!

Oh great, I just saw my wallet spiral right into divorce court.

Alpharius wrote:...a plastic sprue of these components would make so much money as to boggle even GW corporate's mind!

GW could just call it a veteran sprue with the bits to assemble one of each. I think more than that and it get a bit hectic for SM plastic releases.

aka_mythos wrote:

Alpharius wrote:...a plastic sprue of these components would make so much money as to boggle even GW corporate's mind!

GW could just call it a veteran sprue with the bits to assemble one of each. I think more than that and it get a bit hectic for SM plastic releases.

How so?

C: Black Templars, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. II Crusade

C: CSM.5, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. V Heresy

C: SM.6, co- release sprue making 5x Mk. VI Corvus

C: Dark Angels 6, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. VI Maximus

C: CSM.6, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. III Iron

Easy!

JohnHwangDD wrote:How so?

C: Black Templars, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. II Crusade

C: CSM.5, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. V Heresy

C: SM.6, co- release sprue making 5x Mk. VI Corvus

C: Dark Angels 6, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. VI Maximus

C: CSM.6, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. III Iron

Easy!

GW is not yet ready to print money. Their bank vaults are full, apparently.

Better they send some my way then.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

aka_mythos wrote:

Alpharius wrote:...a plastic sprue of these components would make so much money as to boggle even GW corporate's mind!

GW could just call it a veteran sprue with the bits to assemble one of each. I think more than that and it get a bit hectic for SM plastic releases.

How so?

C: Black Templars, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. II Crusade

C: CSM.5, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. V Heresy

C: SM.6, co- release sprue making 5x Mk. VI Corvus

C: Dark Angels 6, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. VI Maximus

C: CSM.6, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. III Iron

Easy!

I'm just pretty sure people wouldn't want these different sprues covered in a particular chapters markings or chaos aesthetic bits, which how GW would release them if they coincided with a codex of some sort. I think its a bit too much of a niche thing as well, from GW's perspective, without being specifically tied to a given set of units its unmarketable and redundant to their current model line.

gorgon wrote:

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:i'm hoping for MK 2 and 1 armor next.... including bolters

Yeah, I've had an idea about an army of Thunder Armors for a few years now, but I'm not that motivated to convert every single model. And GW's Armors of the Ages bitz pack or whatever they call it is worthless for that kind of project.

Curse you Chris! Have you been reading my mind again? There goes another unique army idea!

Vale,

JohnS

aka_mythos wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:

aka_mythos wrote:

Alpharius wrote:...a plastic sprue of these components would make so much money as to boggle even GW corporate's mind!

GW could just call it a veteran sprue with the bits to assemble one of each. I think more than that and it get a bit hectic for SM plastic releases.

How so?

C: Black Templars, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. II Crusade

C: CSM.5, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. V Heresy

C: SM.6, co- release sprue making 5x Mk. VI Corvus

C: Dark Angels 6, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. VI Maximus

C: CSM.6, co-release sprue making 5x Mk. III Iron

Easy!

I'm just pretty sure people wouldn't want these different sprues covered in a particular chapters markings or chaos aesthetic bits, which how GW would release them if they coincided with a codex of some sort.

No, I'm suggesting generic bitz co-released with a larger SM/CSM army which can use them to mix-and-match for more model variety.

TwilightWalker wrote:

cadbren wrote:

terribletrygon wrote:Notice the giant meltaguns. I think they might help get into warships, but that's just me.

You mean the weapon in the middle of the vehicle? BETWEEN the parts that actually make contact with the enemy ship? Great stuff, lets make a hole in the enemy ship and have the assault compartments smack into the hull on either side of the hole, brilliant! Especially brilliant as there are no deflective surfaces other than those wing things at the back which look designed to shear off on impact should the vehicle actually make it that far.

One transport compartment, a pointed front and meltas whatever mounted toward the front would be more practical. I'm sure even the Imperium doesn't use square torpedoes with flat ends.

Torpedoes, perhaps not. But Imperial Shark Assault Boats Do indeed have a flat tip. In fact, looking at the really small miniatures in front of me, it looks rather like a single-hull Caestus! Whoulda thunkit!?

Shark Assault Boat (docks with enemy vessel, clamps to its deck, and deploys melta charges to pierce outer hull). Even if the caestus worked like this, the meltas would be blasting a hole between where the troops come out so pointless yet again.


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aka_mythos wrote:You forget that Imperial Vehicles fly by generating gravitic fields that create an envelope that makes aerodynamics moot. There is nothing to say a similar field method isn't used to shear material. When it comes to the wings, the simple fact is the Caestus doesn't need to penetrate so deeply that their shearing becomes a concern.

Gravitic fields would be pointless in space combat but the idea that the field could potentially do something is the closest thing to a reasonable explanation so far.

While I'd love these in cheaper plastic and better availability at the FLGS, I think they might be too niche to be worth it for GW. I have a feeling these are more appealing to the older gamers (length of collecting vs actual age) who want something more than the current SMs. GW's target audience of next generation clients likely don't care/ know about the different armors. FW seems like the ideal platform to deliver the goods IMO.

ph34r wrote:GW is not yet ready to print money. Their bank vaults are full, apparently.

This is the only reason I've seen yet that 'makes sense'!

JohnHwangDD wrote:
No, I'm suggesting generic bitz co-released with a larger SM/CSM army which can use them to mix-and-match for more model variety.

I understood what you were saying but I don't think GW would do that, even if its a good idea.

aka_mythos wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:
No, I'm suggesting generic bitz co-released with a larger SM/CSM army which can use them to mix-and-match for more model variety.

I understood what you were saying but I don't think GW would do that, even if its a good idea.

Oh, OK. There are a lot of good ideas that GW never implements...

Awsome. thanks a bunch bro!

You know, I've been looking for a way to make a squad of Chaos Chosen stand out, and the Iron Armor and the weapons are perfect.

Gamble wrote:While I'd love these in cheaper plastic and better availability at the FLGS, I think they might be too niche to be worth it for GW. I have a feeling these are more appealing to the older gamers (length of collecting vs actual age) who want something more than the current SMs. GW's target audience of next generation clients likely don't care/ know about the different armors. FW seems like the ideal platform to deliver the goods IMO.

That's it in a nutshell.

Well now that they've produced those older style weapons, will they continue with the other heavy weapons and maybe a conversion beamer too?
What would be nice is an updated mk1 Rhino.

Alpharius wrote:

ph34r wrote:GW is not yet ready to print money. Their bank vaults are full, apparently.

This is the only reason I've seen yet that 'makes sense'!

Why do I now have an image of the GW execs swimming around in seas of money, Scrooge McDuck stylee?
Surrounded by solid gold statues of Space Marines, obviously.

Their stock shares aren't worth enough for them to swim in money.

cadbren wrote:Well now that they've produced those older style weapons, will they continue with the other heavy weapons and maybe a conversion beamer too?
What would be nice is an updated mk1 Rhino.

Now THAT is a good idea!

When we're all ordering our Pre-Heresy stuff, we should put that in the "suggestions/wish list" section!

just think of all the master of forges running around with beamers.

I think FW pulled that from the ordering form if not mistaken.

I think there is only so much FW should do with the Pre-heresy stuff; at some point their times is better served elsewhere.

aka_mythos wrote:I think there is only so much FW should do with the Pre-heresy stuff; at some point (after making everything we want, since -ya know - that's how they make money) their time is better served elsewhere.

Fixed that for you. lol, Honestly I see your point, but this IS something people clamor for. I think at this point, GW should just finish up the lines they have, and then fill their releases with things like this, allowing for updates of existing models as they become outdated. That way the codex/army book releases become less... tumultuous. They only need to release the "new" figures they included in the army book and the rest of the time, their release schedule will just be filled with awesome things, even if they are - strictly speaking - repeats of existing figures (ie, Pre Heresy Terminators are the same as regular terminators).

Scottywan82 says it all...

I just hope FW/GW are listening!

aka_mythos wrote:I think there is only so much FW should do with the Pre-heresy stuff; at some point their times is better served elsewhere.

Yes, Eldar Phantom Titan comes to mind...

These new old marines look awesome. I've been wanting to redo my marines from scratch .. and fluffed em up as guys from a long time ago who got stuck in the warp for a while. But doing a whole new FW marine army from scratch would mean getting a 2nd or 3rd job to afford it, then having no time to paint it :(