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Yggdrasil wrote: I don't know what it's supposed to be, to be honest (other than a stunning Rackham mini, that is)... So I'm not going to try such a thing, I'm afraid... Is the mask supposed to be the head, or not? (And, yeah, I have some SG masks lol...)

As for the scarf, yeah, probably too hard...

sorry, re-reading my post I must admit it was not as clear as it was in my mind. The idea is to make a mask slipping from the head of the model to reveal the servo skull beneath.

The scarf is possible, but you'll have to remove half of the armor collar. Yet, it's not a bad idea, so if you feel it's going to look good this way, go for it!

It's a dirz Centaurus clone. Yeah, the skull is the face. They are tasty-evil. I for one really like the idea of using pretty-boy sg masks in this context. And, hey, you get to give a nod to other Frenchmen

I like the scarf idea, I remember that game from along time ago, you could switch between the spirit world and normal world to complete puzzels.

Step one: Utter the sacred chant, and apply the blessed unguent to your box cutter. Break the purity seals in the correct order, and open the crate. Save all materials to be returned to your Tech Marine. Remember, "Waste is a weapon in the hands of your enemies."

Step two...

'congratulations on your new Windows computer...'

Love the Oblationist Inquisitor. I think the scroll looks pretty cool. The backpack mutant looks a good but imo detracts from the Inquisitor, when attached to his back.

Peter

Sageheart wrote:maybe some scratch built crazy inquisitor weapon, the scroll can be the instructions

Weapon is already settled, I wanted a plain, Chaos-pattern bolter, as it is to me a staple of the 40k Universe...
And I'd rather see the Inquisitor brandishing a Powerful Mystical Scroll of Woe +2 than an Instruction Booklet lol...

Hyenajoe wrote: sorry, re-reading my post I must admit it was not as clear as it was in my mind. The idea is to make a mask slipping from the head of the model to reveal the servo skull beneath.
The scarf is possible, but you'll have to remove half of the armor collar. Yet, it's not a bad idea, so if you feel it's going to look good this way, go for it!

I'm not really fond of the mask idea, to be honest... I was rather looking for a ritual complete skin removal on the head, in addition to the etching of a brand on his forehead, than an intrigue-inspired, mask-wearing Inquisitor... But, I might try this evening, ok...
As for the scarf, that was actually more of an idea than something I could really achieve, due to the already high collar that will prevent me from accessing the neck part...

inmygravenimage wrote:It's a dirz Centaurus clone. Yeah, the skull is the face. They are tasty-evil. I for one really like the idea of using pretty-boy sg masks in this context. And, hey, you get to give a nod to other Frenchmen

I knew it was a Dirz thing, but I've never been into Confrontation enough to remember the "class" of the clone... Thanks for the memory refresh!

As for the Inquisitor, after he's taken the Oath of Oblation, pretty much damning himself, I'm not sure he would even bother about his "looks"... And prefer instead the awe his appearance would inspire, rather than just "unease"...

tipios wrote:I like the scarf idea, I remember that game from along time ago, you could switch between the spirit world and normal world to complete puzzels.

Yeah, one of the series pretty much disappointed me, but all the other ones were pretty fun!!! Poor Raziel...

Briancj wrote:Step one: Utter the sacred chant, and apply the blessed unguent to your box cutter. Break the purity seals in the correct order, and open the crate. Save all materials to be returned to your Tech Marine. Remember, "Waste is a weapon in the hands of your enemies."

Step two...

prime12357 wrote:'congratulations on your new Windows computer...'

@ Briancj, prime12357 : Will you feel sorry if I tell you I don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about?

PDH wrote:Love the Oblationist Inquisitor. I think the scroll looks pretty cool. The backpack mutant looks a good but imo detracts from the Inquisitor, when attached to his back.

Peter

Thanks Peter, I'm a bit sad because I thought it was a nice concept, but I have to agree with the general opinion in that it was "too much"... Thanks still!

Yggdrasil wrote: I'm not really fond of the mask idea, to be honest... I was rather looking for a ritual complete skin removal on the head, in addition to the etching of a brand on his forehead, than an intrigue-inspired, mask-wearing Inquisitor... But, I might try this evening, ok...

Don't do it if you don't like it, the only important thing with your conversion is that it's yours and it must please you before anything else. I was just making a suggestion so don't feel obliged to give it a try

On another point, I liked the backpack mutant. you could perhaps use him crawling at the feet of your inquisitor like some kind of familiar.

Hyenajoe wrote:

Yggdrasil wrote: I'm not really fond of the mask idea, to be honest... I was rather looking for a ritual complete skin removal on the head, in addition to the etching of a brand on his forehead, than an intrigue-inspired, mask-wearing Inquisitor... But, I might try this evening, ok...

Don't do it if you don't like it, the only important thing with your conversion is that it's yours and it must please you before anything else. I was just making a suggestion so don't feel obliged to give it a try

On another point, I liked the backpack mutant. you could perhaps use him crawling at the feet of your inquisitor like some kind of familiar.

Well I pretty much like the idea, but not for that one guy... That's another idea for his retinue though lol, so thanks!!!

As for the backpack mutant, I think it's pretty settled in my mind : he'll be carried by a larger mutant, a "twist hulk" or something... Damn, I wish I had brought my zombies & flagellant bits!!

Only have time for a small update, I have found the perfect piece to have my sitting Scout... well, sit down.



I've also begun work on the squad's Heavy Bolter, and I want to have it braced on its bipods (though I'm going to struggle to have everything on a small 25mm base), so here's the first custom job :


I've tried to add a handle that the operator should be able to use to wield it around, but I'm not convinced by the looks of it... I've put it on the side so that it doesn't prevent the gunner from aiming, but it still looks weird to me... Anyone feeling the same? Any idea?

I like the heavy-bolter's side handle and wire conversions. Probably my favorite weapon in the entire GW universe. (in its newest incarnation, not the over-the-shoulder-type).

However, I'm not convinced by the "aiming scope". For one thing, it doesn't look like a weapon one can bring eye-level unless you prop it against cover or a barricade, which would mean it's more of an M-2 or DShK heavy machine gun, with handles in the back. It kinda looks like a spray and pray weapon that Blaine would carry from Predator.

If you must have that aiming recticle, might I suggest something like a visor/lens/scope HUD thingy that attaches from the weapon to the user via wire and headpiece?

Other than that, the weapon is looking rightly like sexy chocolate.

-Remi

i love that heavy bolter, looks fine by me

I meant say this morning....but I had to go to work

It is a great concept but didn't quite work out....Give the inquisitor a 40mm base and I think the mutant would look good standing next to him.

Have you considered filing the Roman numerals? It would change the look of the servo skull, make it more unique?

I think a pistol (of some description) would look better than a boltgun in his right hand, due to the size.

The scroll looks great.... but since you mentioned a severed head from the grey knights sprue I cant get it out of my head.

Look forward to seeing more. At least the sorcerer didn't take too long to arrive

Peter

I like the heavy bolter. Handel position is OK, but cut of the small trigger finger loop at the bottom of it, thts whats making it look funny, it just looks like a rifel hadle stuck on backwards ATM. The front scope looks odd too, could you try a sniper scope?

HF Izanagi wrote:I like the heavy-bolter's side handle and wire conversions. Probably my favorite weapon in the entire GW universe. (in its newest incarnation, not the over-the-shoulder-type).

I like the new SM Heavy Bolters a lot too, with their huge ammo belts... As for shoulder-weapons, they all looked like crap to me (except the Missile Launcher of course), whereas their "newer" incarnations look more dynamic & practical!

HF Izanagi wrote:However, I'm not convinced by the "aiming scope". For one thing, it doesn't look like a weapon one can bring eye-level unless you prop it against cover or a barricade, which would mean it's more of an M-2 or DShK heavy machine gun, with handles in the back. It kinda looks like a spray and pray weapon that Blaine would carry from Predator.

If you must have that aiming recticle, might I suggest something like a visor/lens/scope HUD thingy that attaches from the weapon to the user via wire and headpiece?

Actually I am using the Heavy Bolter from the Land Speeder Storm kit, and it IS supposed to be pintle-mounted (on the small part where I tugged the wire in, underneath the weapon). And I intend on modelling it as if the Scout was monitoring an area from behind cover, so that's why I also added the bipod...

In addition to this, I think Scouts have to worry a lot more about the weight of what they're carrying, as they don't have a power armour to lift the load; hence, they'd be much more "savvy" with their ammunition, and would probable even try to AIM at what they're shooting, instead of "sprayin' and prayin' "

So for this one I plan to have his head "level" with the aiming sights, which I think would work.... Or definitely not?

HF Izanagi wrote:Other than that, the weapon is looking rightly like sexy chocolate.

Sageheart wrote:i love that heavy bolter, looks fine by me

Thanks!

PDH wrote:I meant say this morning....but I had to go to work

It is a great concept but didn't quite work out....Give the inquisitor a 40mm base and I think the mutant would look good standing next to him.

Have you considered filing the Roman numerals? It would change the look of the servo skull, make it more unique?

I think a pistol (of some description) would look better than a boltgun in his right hand, due to the size.

The scroll looks great.... but since you mentioned a severed head from the grey knights sprue I cant get it out of my head.

Look forward to seeing more. At least the sorcerer didn't take too long to arrive

Peter

You're the second one suggesting that I should file those numbers on the skull... So even though I had planned to keep it as is, I'll probably just follow your advice, & fill them up with GS! It might change the "servo-skull' feel, after all...
Moreover, I have some minor GW work to do with both this one and the Scouts (mostly fingers kept out of the trigger), so it won't take long to do that!

I have been burrowing through my small bits box, but couldn't find any pistol suitable... And I'm pretty much like Grey_Death, I think you can never have enough bolters! If I hadn't used the SM commander's plasma pistol on the Scout Sergeant, I would've probably given it to the Inquisitor, but...
Well, see below...

As for the severed Daemonette head, it was nice too, but :
1. the hand was power armoured, so a bit huge (even after filing it down, I tried)
2. it didn't match the firearm in his right hand (yeah, a bolter round could probably split a head from the torso, but not cleanly)
3. the scroll looked too good lol... especially with a few "upgrade" (see below, 2nd Ed.)

As for the shipping time... Yeah, 2 weeks isn't that bad, really...

tipios wrote:I like the heavy bolter. Handel position is OK, but cut of the small trigger finger loop at the bottom of it, thts whats making it look funny, it just looks like a rifel hadle stuck on backwards ATM. The front scope looks odd too, could you try a sniper scope?

Front scope is an Ork scope, to keep it in line with my "infiltrated within an Ork-infested area", and also because although I think Scouts would actually aim their weapons, Heavy Bolters probably don't need that much accuracy lol... Hence an aimpoint at the back, backed up by an Ork Kros'hair...

As for updates, I've been tidying up the side handle a bit (no pic, sorry), and eventually glued the rest of the accessories on the Inquisitor.
Here are the pics (oh, voting allowed for once!) :






This is the back's view : holstered shotgun with added ammo, and sheathed sorcerer sword....

New things are :
- bolter in right arm (does it look that big?)
- sword & shotgun at the back
- small details on the scroll
- added a duo of grenades on the left side of the belt (done after pics were taken)

Yet to do :
- try something out with the skull / jaw
- GS a right forethinger along the bolter and fill the Roman IV on forehead
- think about a base
- think about a paint scheme...

On a side note, as mentioned earlier, one of my friends just joined Dakka and started a first Plog about the Dark Elf Dragon he's just bought... So just a bit of advertising for him !

Also, no song today as I'm updating this from the bunker ( ), so no youtube access...

So if someone can handle that song of the day thing, I'd be grateful!

Well, I know of a perfect song of the day, but it is my understanding that it is reviled universally, or close to that. Need a memory jog? Today's Friday.

Nice work on the Oblationist inquisitor so far, though the aquila on the scroll looks... heavy on scroll. I'd personally just go more for a painted aquila. Otherwise, I like it thus far, and will like it more once the head has less servo skull number 4 and more death mask/ face. Maybe, if your skills and supplies are up to the task, a ragged eye in place of an empty socket?

Stay frosty (that's a real military term, right?). Kaesar II

SHouldn't be up hope i don't end up just late not babbling, but here goes.

I really like the aiming concept, it really makes that scope make a lot more sense, What type of cover is he having, I think you could put in a lot of interesting stuff there, posters come to mind. Out of coursity I have noticed a tendency in these models to look like a much more militaristic team, like a trained unit rather than a bunch of guys running with swords. I like that, is it something you plan out, just second nature to you, or what? If you do plan it, do you ever think of creating a unit that is somewhat in a scene themselves, maybe a team preparing to break into a building, idk, and show the various roles each character would do. Again hope this isn't late night babbling, was just something that came to mind. Really great models here.


music for the night.. I'm a bad choice to pick this, but here goes nothing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2s&ob=av2e

haha, haha

I'm surprised the bolter looks just fine.

The bolter looks really fine and the shotgun holster in the back as well, it gives this frightening inquisitor an improved touch of badassery

How are you going to hide the chaos star ont his belt?

Love that inquisitor Yggs. The bolter looks great and the gear on his back really helps sell the realism of an independent guy, out on his own, doin' what he feels needs to be done. (aw shucks)

You know what I'm saying...

wheres the shotgun from?

also, why arent the bullets coming out, as the mag affected by gravity? seems a little off. love the model though!

@prototype - it's not clear what you mean by saying "why aren't the bullets coming out" do you mean the angle that the hanging down?


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Oooops! forgot to say that he model is coming together real nice, the shotgun is very mean looking!! are you going to cut off the scope at the bottom of the skull before you add the scarf, or just go over it!!!

Thats one dangerous looking inquisitor, I like it

sorry, that is exactly what i ment tipios

Lord Kaesar II wrote:Well, I know of a perfect song of the day, but it is my understanding that it is reviled universally, or close to that. Need a memory jog? Today's Friday.

Nice work on the Oblationist inquisitor so far, though the aquila on the scroll looks... heavy on scroll. I'd personally just go more for a painted aquila. Otherwise, I like it thus far, and will like it more once the head has less servo skull number 4 and more death mask/ face. Maybe, if your skills and supplies are up to the task, a ragged eye in place of an empty socket?

Stay frosty (that's a real military term, right?). Kaesar II

I didn't get the Friday "reminder", sadly... I must be missing some US/UK references, I'm afraid...

As for the aquila, I plan to paint it as wax, so I think it could work... Oh, and I had already said I had added details to avoid screwing up the thing, due to my being unable to freeahand anything!!! So don't get me started on this, it's frustrating enough!!
As for the face... Still haven't found any good solution... If only I had taken a few flagellant heads, that would've been waaaaaaaay simpler... Your eye suggestion is a nice one though! But I think it's the same problem : my GS skills won't allow me to do such a tiny thing!

Sageheart wrote:SHouldn't be up hope i don't end up just late not babbling, but here goes.

I really like the aiming concept, it really makes that scope make a lot more sense, What type of cover is he having, I think you could put in a lot of interesting stuff there, posters come to mind. Out of coursity I have noticed a tendency in these models to look like a much more militaristic team, like a trained unit rather than a bunch of guys running with swords. I like that, is it something you plan out, just second nature to you, or what? If you do plan it, do you ever think of creating a unit that is somewhat in a scene themselves, maybe a team preparing to break into a building, idk, and show the various roles each character would do. Again hope this isn't late night babbling, was just something that came to mintd. Really great models here.

music for the night.. I'm a bad choice to pick this, but here goes nothing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2s&ob=av2e

haha, haha

Hey, Elton John, nice to hear... A bit different to was I post usually, but I've heard that song a zillion times when I was a kid... My mum was a huge fan (oh, and he came to my backwater hometown a few weeks ago )!!
As for the concept, I'm not sure I do it consciously, but I do want my models to look like something else than a "bunch of guys running with swords", that's for sure! I put a lot of effort into each and every one of them, so it takes a real lot of time, but I hope it's worth it... Well, it is to me, at least!
As for the current squad, I was indeed trying to have each of them "tell a story", but I didn't think for the whole team, just model by model... The Sergeant is jumping off a structure, gun blazing ; the shotgun guy has spotted / heard something so is telling his squadmates to slow down / the sniper dude will be featured as if trying to look around the cover he's hiding behind ; bolter & heavy bolter guys are monitoring the area and taking their aim.
Having a "squad theme" could be interesting too!

PDH wrote:I'm surprised the bolter looks just fine.

Lol... I told you bolters were just plain awesome lol!

Hyenajoe wrote:The bolter looks really fine and the shotgun holster in the back as well, it gives this frightening inquisitor an improved touch of badassery

How are you going to hide the chaos star ont his belt?

Erh... I'm not going to hide it, nor the Chaos eye hanging from it. His/her armour is a corrupted piece of equipment he/she probably scavenged from a heretic cult of sort, so that's part of it!
Thanks for the shotgun impression lol...

Gitsplitta wrote:Love that inquisitor Yggs. The bolter looks great and the gear on his back really helps sell the realism of an independent guy, out on his own, doin' what he feels needs to be done. (aw shucks)

You know what I'm saying...

I don't know what is the (aw shucks) thing, but I did get the rest, and that was what I was aiming at, so thanks! I don't know why, but a shotgun always gives the feeling of "independant", "rogue", "radical", etc... Maybe you US guys could explain that to us?

prototype_X wrote:wheres the shotgun from?

also, why arent the bullets coming out, as the mag affected by gravity? seems a little off. love the model though!

tipios wrote:@prototype - it's not clear what you mean by saying "why aren't the bullets coming out" do you mean the angle that the hanging down?

Oooops! forgot to say that he model is coming together real nice, the shotgun is very mean looking!! are you going to cut off the scope at the bottom of the skull before you add the scarf, or just go over it!!!

prototype_X wrote:sorry, that is exactly what i ment tipios

Actually, I still don't get what you guys are talking about... Is it the added ammo belt on the shotgun holster? It's supposed to be "stitched / weaved / nailed" into the holster, so I don't think that is a problem?
As for the bit in itself, prototype_X, it comes from the Scout bikes kit... Which is a nifty box, with a lot and a lot of gear & bitz in it!
And, for the scope, I might cut it indeed... But I won't try to model a scarf, for the risk is too great to screw everything up!

As I said, a flagellant head would've saved the day.... I guess it's too late anyway!

Asylum_Inmate wrote:Thats one dangerous looking inquisitor, I like it

Thanks!

Worked a bit on the guys today, finished basing them, and worked on the fifth squadmate, the one with the heavy bolter... Pics should come by tomorrow!!! (of the HB gunner at least... He's still headless as I haven't found a good enough head, that could replace a clone-scout one.... but I only have SM heads in here apart from the scout ones, so that's a bit hard!!!

Thank you all for your nice suggestions & comments, that's really helping me to sort things out!

Hey yggs, I think prototype and tipios are referring to the belted ammo coming out of the bolt gun. They think the angle at which they hang is off. At least, that's how I understood their posts.
As for the shotgun thing, I think that lone, rogue esque idea spawns from the history of it. Namely it's use for hunting, which can be done alone, and it's use in the late 1800's from the "Wild West." Movies also perpetuate the idea that a man with a shotgun can do anything. Like this:

Yggdrasil wrote:

"The last time I read this scroll, I lost my entire FACE. Just think about what it is about to do to YOU."

Gorgeous 'bash, Yggs!

Yggdrasil wrote:
So if someone can handle that song of the day thing, I'd be grateful!

I would suggest the cover of "Apache", by Michael Viner's Incredible Bongo Band. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjiU2YAlYKY

--Brian

Moltar wrote:Hey yggs, I think prototype and tipios are referring to the belted ammo coming out of the bolt gun. They think the angle at which they hang is off. At least, that's how I understood their posts.
As for the shotgun thing, I think that lone, rogue esque idea spawns from the history of it. Namely it's use for hunting, which can be done alone, and it's use in the late 1800's from the "Wild West." Movies also perpetuate the idea that a man with a shotgun can do anything.

Nice reminder from Evil Dead lol...
Ok, I get the ammo belt thing : that might be true, but I'm not going to sculpt a whole bolt belt lol!!! I prefer to think that the pose is a quite dynamic one, as if trying to extend both arms! In such a case, the inertia of the ammo belt could well make them in that position, IMHO...

Briancj wrote:"The last time I read this scroll, I lost my entire FACE. Just think about what it is about to do to YOU."

Gorgeous 'bash, Yggs!

Lol, that was close to what I was thinking to be honest...

Briancj wrote:
I would suggest the cover of "Apache", by Michael Viner's Incredible Bongo Band. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjiU2YAlYKY

--Brian

I'll try and listen to it later... Thanks for the contribution!!

I don't have a problem with the ammo belt, I just wanted to make sure what prototype ment, because it was not clear in the first post and yes if he is raising his arm the belt would be straight down

Don't forget that one of the old west American legends (Doc Holiday) used a shot gun at the Gunfight as the O.K. Corral.

I think part of the mystique is what a shotgun does... really makes a mess of things. If you carry a shotgun for personal defense (as opposed to hunting birds) it suggests a certain disregard for you fellow man.

tipios wrote:
I don't have a problem with the ammo belt, I just wanted to make sure what prototype ment, because it was not clear in the first post and yes if he is raising his arm the belt would be straight down

Ok, great!!

Gitsplitta wrote:Don't forget that one of the old west American legends (Doc Holiday) used a shot gut at the Gunfight as the O.K. Chorale.

I think part of the mystique is what a shotgun does... really makes a mess of things. If you carry a shotgun for personal defense (as opposed to hunting birds) it suggests a certain disregard for you fellow man.

Yeah, I am really missing some cultural references here...
You're probably right regarding the second sentence too... That's a mythical weapon, and you just don't wanna mess with a dude that has a shotgun as a sidearm!

Small update on the Heavy Bolter Gunner :

Also called "I couldn't even fit on a 40mm base, so I took a 25mm one with huge chunks protruding"

What do you guys think?

[edit: also changed the title, as "hope" is a pretty scarce resource in here... Some say it's been depleted...]