Tyranids 2nd Wave Rumours (Actual Updates on Page 29, Pics on Page 31!)

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**Redemption**

Absolutionis wrote:Essentially, ignoring the timeframes:

- Plastic Harpy, about the size of Valkyrie
- Plastic Tervigon/Tyrannofex kit, looks nothing like the picture; $50USD
- Plastic Tyrant/Swarmlord, slightly bigger, $54USD
- Doom
- Parasite
- Really expensive single Ymgarl

Actually, as Stickmonkey already said in the post you quoted, and again in a recent Tyranid 2nd wave, he doesn't think the Tervigon kits makes a Tyrannofex kit, as the models look very different. With the rumours of a new Tyranid Monstrous Creature being added with White Dwarf Rules, and that leaked 6th edition PDF also mentioning the Cerebore by name, it's also a possibility it's going to be a Tervigon/Cerebore kit, with rules added like with the Eldar Fire Prism/Night Spinner kit.

Some rumours also said the Harpy kit may come with some sort of Harpy variant included in the box. Perhaps something to catch other flyers? With no AA weapons and only Shrikes, Gargoyles, Harpies and Flying Hive Tyrants to attempt to kill them in assault, flyers would virtually have free roam against most Tyranid armies.

**xttz**

Redemption wrote:
Some rumours also said the Harpy kit may come with some sort of Harpy variant included in the box. Perhaps something to catch other flyers? With no AA weapons and only Shrikes, Gargoyles, Harpies and Flying Hive Tyrants to attempt to kill them in assault, flyers would virtually have free roam against most Tyranid armies.

Knowing GW they'll make the Harpy wings compatible with the new Hive Tyrant, so you have to buy an extra Harpy kit to give your HT wings.

**jspyd3rx**

Maybe the hive tyrant and harpy are a dual kit?

**tetrisphreak**

I could handle having a 2nd hive tyrant in my army, I've only ever owned 1 but these things really rock using the Leaked PDF. WS 8 actually means something vs a lot of armies now. You get hit on 5's by most stuff unless it's WS5 or higher, and you're hitting on 2's with most of your CC attacks at S10 AP2 in return. Rock.

**Redemption**

xttz wrote:Knowing GW they'll make the Harpy wings compatible with the new Hive Tyrant, so you have to buy an extra Harpy kit to give your HT wings.

jspyd3rx wrote:Maybe the hive tyrant and harpy are a dual kit?

If GW stays true to the codex art, the Harpy will have wings that are joined to the body beteen the front and rear legs, like the current Gargoyle plastic models. Which would mean they wont fit on a Hive Tyrant's hunched and segmented body unless they complete restyle the Hive Tyrant in both posture and size. Not to mention that I would be very suprised if the Harpy didn't come on a flight stand.

**Vitruvian XVII**

Harry wrote:
stahly wrote:
So, two kits for Nids, but will we really see all 4 missing Necron kits in February? 6 plastic kits seems excessive for a single month, especially considering the Harpy, Tervigon and maybe the Triarch Stalker too might consist of multiple tank sized sprues...
Didn't one of the rumour mongers say he heard only of 2 Necron kits to be released in February? Spyders/Wraiths and the flyer? That would make 4 plastic kits for February and seems more sensible. Maybe the other 2 Necron kits will be paired with another smaller wave later this year?

Sounds more like it to me .... along with some characters.

Mirbeau wrote:
Nid wise, (besides H), you are the only one who has got it right thus far.

Every purported rumour, on EVERY website besides those posted by the two H's thus far have seemed meer assumptions at best.

Let me just say I have no idea if I am 'right' or not.
I am just saying what I heard .... and it was quite a long time ago now.
Just because those are the two things I heard about does not mean a) They are both being released now b) they are the only things being released.

I was just trying to chip in with what I had heard as stickmonkey was being coy.

KarlPedder wrote:
Who's fun exactly? I really don't understand this mindset it's like somebody knowing every detail about a "suprise" party then someone saying "But I'm not going to tell you what colour the candles on the cake are, because wheres the fun in that? Yeah cause when I finally do see what colour they are boy that is going to be fun......

I am sorry folks feel like that.
I do not mean to come over as a ****.
I am not keeping back some secret stash of information.
I would happily spill anything I know about stuff coming next month.
I just don't know anymore than I have said.
I don't get some sort of advanced look at next months White Dwarf.
(Mine arrives on the mat the same time as anyone else).
Not being big into 40K I don't pick up as much and often when I do it does not mean that much to me.
I sort of hear things by accident.
I remember when I heard about the Nid kits I had to run the names past some other guys to make sense of what I heard .... It would have gone something like 'I think they said Tergon? Tervigon? Trygon? tervitrigon? Does that sound right? and something about harpies ... do we have harpies in 40K now?

Perhaps I should just stick to fantasy where I have some idea what I am talking about.

edit:

Also,

ghost21 wrote:Id like to add that nids will get a transport thing, but not sure if its now or later

and

ghost21 wrote:
blueraven84 wrote:
Sorry for off topic, but if we get Harry to play whfb AND 40k my life is complete :=)

About the nid transport, could it be Cerebore that was mentioned in leak/fake 6th ed thingy? I wonder what kind of biological transport thingy gw comes up with it's such a strange/funny concept...

n that was based from an old epic monster ...(i wish the old epic would return, sigh)

**Kroothawk**

straightsilver wrote:Back in 2008 my mate lijah_cuu and I were lucky enough to evesdrop a meeting with Jes Goodwyn and a couple of the design team.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172877

And my take on it back then (looks like I was waaaay off and lijah_cuu was correct - sorry mate!)

http://www.40konline.com/community/index.php?topic=174120.msg2127035#msg2127035

This was before the most recent Nid Codex so we didn't correctly link up a couple of thinngs, but hindsight is a beautiful thing so I am confident that what we thought was a plastic harridan is in fact a plastic harpy.

Interestingly when talking about the design for this model Jes did say that he wanted models to be able to cling on to it like a transport.

We had assumed this meant gargoyles, but I guess it's not impossible for Nids to get a flying transport that can carry other unit types?

Also bear in mind that we were sat a couple of tables away and couldn't hear everything, but the meeting then was about redesigning lots of the "then" Nid range, and to incorporate some FW stuff into the range. We got the Tervigon, so it's not impossible some other FW stuff was at least influential.

It also shows just how long it takes from the design process to release, as this was over 3 years ago.

silverstu wrote:I remembered that- I also have heard a whisper about hanging gargoyles so maybe a WD supported option for a Harpy kit?

**ShatteredBlade**

If we're lucky, GW will just release the models along with a 6th ed codex and an apology.

**H.B.M.C.**

If we’re lucky we’ll just get the new models. I’m sure Tyranid players would be happy with just that.

**-Loki-**

H.B.M.C. wrote:If we’re lucky we’ll just get the new models. I’m sure Tyranid players would be happy with just that.

Basically this.

While I love speculating what we might get, be it a Cerebore, or as Harry mentioned, maybe a flying transport like a mini Harridan/Tyranid Valkyrie, I just want kits for Tervigons, Tyrannofexes and Harpies. Whatever combination they want to make with dual kits, it really doesn't bother me.

Just give us the official models already.

**brassangel**

-Loki- wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:If we’re lucky we’ll just get the new models. I’m sure Tyranid players would be happy with just that.

Basically this.

While I love speculating what we might get, be it a Cerebore, or as Harry mentioned, maybe a flying transport like a mini Harridan/Tyranid Valkyrie, I just want kits for Tervigons, Tyrannofexes and Harpies. Whatever combination they want to make with dual kits, it really doesn't bother me.

Just give us the official models already.

This would be like winning and getting candy.

**tetrisphreak**

Me and a couple friends are playtesting the 'hoax' 6th ed rules.

If Tyrannofex gets a model i'm buying 2. Then i'm pairing them with an Old Adversary hive tyrant...wait Preferred enemy doesn't work vs Vehicles...

I'm still probably gonna get 2 tyrannofexes. they hit tanks (massive) on a 3+ in the new leakset.

**Absolutionis**

Every time this thread gets updated after days of inactivity, I get really excited that new models have been posted.

The Vampire Counts are out of Advance Order. GW has nothing for Advance Order. Therefore...

Anyone thing that next Wednesday be a reasonable time to see some new models or will they run with the Vampire Counts until the end of the month?

Tyranids are supposedly early February and Necrons late February. With Advance Orders going up 1-2 weeks before release, the time frame is shortening.

**-Loki-**

Just to pass on something Kroot sent me. Someone sells these on ebay.

Every time I look at it, it looks better and better. Thought 69 pounds is a hefty pricetag.

Picture removed after a request.

Please don't repost it for now.

Thanks
Reds8n

**MDizzle**

That is fething Sweet mate!

**-Loki-**

I'm very, very heavily considering getting one. I think this is a case of GW's model not being able to surpass an alternate.

**Fat_Little_Ripper**

Personally, I don't like it. I think a large part of my dislike comes from the tiny little legs compared to the rest of it.

**radarbabyeater**

I love it. The only real "significant' departure from this and the artwork in the codex are the two (four) front legs. Artwork depicts them as being akin to Scything Talons... but this still looks amazing. I just wish the head were a little more narrative or dynamic.

**-Loki-**

Those arms are bigger than Crushing Claws on a Carnifex. It's just a gigantic model.

Note that Crushing Claws are an upgrade it can take. however, you'd easily be able to put scything talons from a Carnifex on it - it uses the same circular depression as other large Tyranids for arms.

**Absolutionis**

I agree that it's not my favorite model. It doesn't help that I'm not a fan of the official GW art either.

Neither the GW art, this, or the Chapterhouse kit make it look like a Birthing machine. All those simply make it look like a hunched-forward Fattyfex.

It's a great model overall, but it doesn't scream "Tervigon" to me.

**Fat_Little_Ripper**

To expand on what I said, mostly it's in the legs. This thing looks like it's related to a Hierodule... kinda... not really. But the legs make me think Carnifex. It just makes me think there is no way that those legs could carry the bulk of a creature this size.

Don't get me wrong, it's nicely detailed and beats the hell out of my Tervigon (holding out for an official one) and ChapterHouses pregnant Carnifex kit... it just overall doesn't look right to me. Like it wouldn't really fit in with the rest of the official Tyranid line.

Doesn't really fit the aesthetic, although it's much better than some conversions and alternative models I've seen.

**Absolutionis**

Ah, the arms were covering up the Birthing-Bits. Looks much more of a Tervigon from the underside.

I'd imagine that looking at it top-town when it's on a table, it'd still look like a really chubby Carnifex with three rows of spines which, admittedly, the official GW picture really depicts. Admittedly, the depiction of the front two arms is much better here than in the Chapterhouse or the GW pic; Using Scything Talons to keep the Preggerfex Bulk up seems awkward.

Again, IMHO it's a great model, but not for me personally.

Then again, the official-GW model may end up being awful, and this'll be the best choice on the market.

**-Loki-**

Fat_Little_Ripper wrote:To expand on what I said, mostly it's in the legs. This thing looks like it's related to a Hierodule... kinda... not really. But the legs make me think Carnifex. It just makes me think there is no way that those legs could carry the bulk of a creature this size.

Honestly, I thought the legs were well done. if you look at the second side shot, it really looks like it's pushing down on the legs from its weight, which fits the description in the codex - it needs to use all 6 limbs to support its weight, and only uses its forelimbs in combat if desperately needed. The fact that it's basically just on its back legs and straining to stay up fits the fluff in the book. It has the appearance that it is waddling - the other leg is stretching, as it's taking a stride with that leg, and taking the weight on its other leg.

**LunaHound**

69 gbp i rather get a hierdule

**Grimgob**

LunaHound wrote:69 gbp i rather get a hierdule

Right.

**jspyd3rx**

I imagine leaked WD pics by end of next week? Means I will be slaved to this thread until then:(

**HungryTaz**

That "Mother of Brood" model is by far the best Tervigon I've seen. I have to be honest... if the leaked photos do not outdo that model, I may have to order one or two.

The Spore Pod is still the model I'm most waiting for, but its not looking good for this wave. I wonder if the codex authors have to submit a general 'sketch' of a unit before putting them into a codex for approval. There are a couple third party pods out there. One looks far too much like a Tyranid copy of the Space Marine Drop Pod. I'm hoping it is something wholly Tyranid and original.

**CaptKaruthors**

Wow. that is a cool alternative model instead of converting a Tervigon from a Carnifex. I haven't seen many good tervigon conversions. Maybe two at best since Tyranids were released.

**gorgon**

tetrisphreak wrote:I could handle having a 2nd hive tyrant in my army, I've only ever owned 1 but these things really rock using the Leaked PDF. WS 8 actually means something vs a lot of armies now. You get hit on 5's by most stuff unless it's WS5 or higher, and you're hitting on 2's with most of your CC attacks at S10 AP2 in return. Rock.

WS8 also means it hits moving vehicles on a 4+.

**Ozeo**

-Loki- wrote:Just to pass on something Kroot sent me. Someone sells these on ebay.

Every time I look at it, it looks better and better. Thought 69 pounds is a hefty pricetag.

Picture removed after a request.

Please don't repost it for now.

Thanks
Reds8n

Could you provide me a link for this model? I'm very much interested in what it looks like, you guys talking about it is driving me crazy.