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2026/03/10 16:03:22
Subject: Does GW even care about Dark Eldar/Drukhari?
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I looked through the 3rd ed (v2) dex yesterday, and wow... was it different.
People say the Cult/ Kabal/ Coven divide was an 8th thing, but it in some ways, it was more pronounced in 3rd when the army debuted.
If your Warlord was an Archon, all Wyches were elites. If you used a Wych Lord (Succubus was the term used for squad leader in that edition), then Kabalites and Raider Kabalites were elites and Haemonculi and Talos could not be used at all!
Wracks and Grotesques did not exist. Beast packs were composed entirely of Warp Beasts. Asdrubael, Kruellah, Lilith, Urien and Decapitator were the named... Though Decapitator never had a model.
Reavers and Skyboards were equipment, so Archons and and Wych Lords could take them that way, but datasheets for mounted characters did not exist.
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2026/03/10 21:14:36
Subject: Does GW even care about Dark Eldar/Drukhari?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Actually, grotesques DID exist in the 3rd edition codex, I have the models. What they were changed when DE got their 5th edition codex. What were "Grotesques" got renamed into Wracks, and Grotesques became the larger, Ogryn sized brutes. Frankly, I kind of liked the old school Grotesques, especially if they were the Uber Grotesques you could have attached to Urien.
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2026/03/10 21:34:08
Subject: Does GW even care about Dark Eldar/Drukhari?
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Sinewy Scourge
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2026/03/11 02:37:58
Subject: Does GW even care about Dark Eldar/Drukhari?
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Fixture of Dakka
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 PenitentJake wrote:I looked through the 3rd ed (v2) dex yesterday, and wow... was it different.
People say the Cult/ Kabal/ Coven divide was an 8th thing, but it in some ways, it was more pronounced in 3rd when the army debuted.
If your Warlord was an Archon, all Wyches were elites. If you used a Wych Lord (Succubus was the term used for squad leader in that edition), then Kabalites and Raider Kabalites were elites and Haemonculi and Talos could not be used at all!
Wracks and Grotesques did not exist. Beast packs were composed entirely of Warp Beasts. Asdrubael, Kruellah, Lilith, Urien and Decapitator were the named... Though Decapitator never had a model.
Reavers and Skyboards were equipment, so Archons and and Wych Lords could take them that way, but datasheets for mounted characters did not exist.
I didn't remember Wych Lords removing coven stuff as options, but aside from that the kabal/cult distinction wasn't that huge. It mostly just let you avoid the kabalite troop tax in favor of more wyches. Or shifted your kabalite:wych ratio if you still wanted to use both. 3rd edition also still let you have haemonculi hanging out in squads of wyches or kabalites or reavers or whatever, so it wasn't that divided.
5th edition really did the divisions first and best. Mostly by just not making them all that pronounced to begin with. Your haemonculus could still hang out with wyches, but you could also do a kabal/cult/coven themed list with zero representation from the other two subfactions. You could give your archon some pet grotesques to quirkily lead into battle, but there was a certain amount of synergy to be had for sticking to more conventional combos.
7th kind of started forming the cracks with the coven splat and various formations. Then 8th was where we had to start really jumping through hoops if we wanted to have access to our whole codex.
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ATTENTION. Psychic tests are unfluffy. Your longing for AV is understandable but misguided. Your chapter doesn't need a separate codex. Doctrines should go away. Being a "troop" means nothing. This has been a cranky service announcement. You may now resume your regularly scheduled arguing.
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2026/03/11 08:08:11
Subject: Does GW even care about Dark Eldar/Drukhari?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Wrong Razorwing. They reused the name from a previous Forge World model. It looked like two Raven fighters joined in the middle. Two hulls, two cockpits, stub wing between them. Armed with two long barrel splinter canons, two dark Lances, and some kind of fear canon in the middle, mounted on the central stub wing.
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2026/03/11 08:22:10
Subject: Does GW even care about Dark Eldar/Drukhari?
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Sinewy Scourge
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2026/03/11 14:58:45
Subject: Does GW even care about Dark Eldar/Drukhari?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yes, I have that model too. It's NOT that model. The original Razorwing looked like two of the Ravens glued together.
Edit: took forever to find a picture. It's like they tried to scrub this from the internet.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2026/03/11 15:08:01
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