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First up, the rumors are unvieling at an outstanding rate, it getting hard to keep up!

Shadowphrakt at WS confirmed that he was completely duped with the previous batch of SW rumors. So the no TH/SS rumor was totally false! Forget every SW rumor before these because these SW rumors are the real deal.


The comfirmation of these rumors come from Brimstone, Harry and Hastings on Warseer. That's as reliable as it gets in the world of GW rumors.

Here is the current round up of rumors that we have so far. I will keep this post updted as new info becomes available. New info will be in this color

The Space Wolf codex has an October release date.

LC's are called Wolf Claws in the new codex, you can choose to either re-roll to hit or to wound.

Canis Wolfborn is the new SW SC; He's riding a very big wolf in a not so weird way as that sounds. Let just say those bloodcrushers look like grots!!! Also Canis is power armoured and has 2 wolf claws. The wolf has some cybernetic bits on it.

IIRC taking Canis also allows you to take two cav choices, 1 can be SW mounted on wolves, the other is just wolves.

Njal Stormcaller returns to the Codex with a new model, holding a gnarled staff out before him.

Bjorn the Fellhanded returns to the codex.

All special characters have been resculpted.

Wolf Scouts will remain the same and they also have the option be mounted in a Land Speeder Storm

There will be 2 main plastic kits, however 1 of them can be used to make pretty much every SW troop choice by combining the oooodles of spares on the sprues with normal vanilla marines kits (e.g. a box of devastators plus the extra from the sprues will make your Longfangs. IIRC there are around 30+ heads on the sprue!!! there may also be a special vehicle, but I'm not sure if it's a complete kit or if there will be an upgrade sprue to add to the existing kit.

There's also a funky new way of kitting out your characters called Sagas, it is similar to the Vampiric Powers used by WFB VC, but IMO much more fitting for SW, and very fluffy, in fact it is IMO one of the best ideas GW have had in ages. You choose "sagas" for your characters, perhaps someone with Saga of the monster killer (I made that name up by the way) may be better at killing monsters (high strength things) in some way, although there could be drawbacks to this as he may need to kill so many of such things per game to continue his saga......

Space Wolves gain access to an Assault Cannon Land Raider variant.

The current options for jump packs are going to change. BTW Jump Pack marines are called "Skyriders" in SW Codex.

Plastic Wolfguard Terminators; they are ambidextrous, ie they will have right and left handed weapons options like Stormbolters.

When asked about Pack size, Brimstone says that Space Wolves will be even less Codex Astartes than they were before.


A first look at the new Space Wolf miniatures, thanks to WS!

Here's a better version of the first pic we saw.



GW in their infinite wisdom have decided to officially let the Wolf outta the bag.

Incoming! Space Wolves

The Space Wolves were one of the first Space Marine Chapters founded by the Emperor; fierce and barbaric heroes of legend who charge fangs bared into the teeth of the enemy. In October, this Chapter of ferocious warriors is being re-launched with a brand-new Codex and range of Citadel Miniatures.

As a newsletter subscriber, we thought you should be among the first to catch a glimpse of the all-new Space Wolves.


Space Wolf Grey Hunter
This stunning Grey Hunter has been assembled using the forthcoming multi-part plastic box set; just one of the fantastic new Space Wolf sets coming in October.

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Space Wolf Lighting Claws: Re-roll all successful to-wound rolls.

If this does not happen, the curse has been broken for the sub-chapters.
   
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The claws are apparently called Wolf Claws and you can choose to re-roll either the to hit or to wound rolls.

And Njal is back.

Hastings have been a reliable source in the past, so...

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His Master's Voice wrote:The claws are apparently called Wolf Claws and you can choose to re-roll either the to hit or to wound rolls.

And Njal is back.

Hastings have been a reliable source in the past, so...


The floodgates seem to be swinging open!

Just for completeness sake here is what 75hastings69 said:

"LC's are called Wolf Claws in the new codex, you can choose to either re-roll to hit or to wound.

Njal Stormcaller returns to the Codex with a new model, holding a gnarled staff out before him.

I have heard 2 main plastic kits, however 1 of them can be used to make pretty much every SW troop choice by combining the oooodles of spares on the sprues with normal vanilla marines kits (e.g. a box of devastators plus the extra from the sprues will make your Longfangs. IIRC there are around 30+ heads on the sprue!!! there may also be a special vehicle, but I'm not sure if it's a complete kit or if there will be an upgrade sprue to add to the existing kit."



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Do you have to choose which reroll you want before you hit anything, or can you choose after rolling to hit to save it for the wound roll if you like your hits? It's most likely the first, but the second would be great.

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Any more word on TH/SS being taken away from the Wolves?
   
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a1steaks wrote:Any more word on TH/SS being taken away from the Wolves?


No word on that one yet.

Hastings gives up a little more:

And beginning of October for release is indeed correct.

There's also a funky new way of kitting out your characters, it is similar to the Vampiric Powers used by WFB VC, but IMO much more fitting for SW, and very fluffy, in fact it is IMO one of the best ideas GW have had in ages. I'm not going to say any more on this as it will spoil the surprise.



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Ive been following that thread on B&C,

it makes me happy.

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Hmmm... I just finished building a new LC-equipped Wolf Guard, I'm just relieved they didn't discontinue LCs altogether!

   
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There's also a funky new way of kitting out your characters, it is similar to the Vampiric Powers used by WFB VC.


So having a wargear list of cool upgrades is 'new' is it?

What. The. Feth.

The Woofs get an upgrade list ala Vampire Counts and Chaos are stuck with generic weapon lists, no Daemonic Gifts at all (a staple since 1st Ed 40K) and Daemon Princes that can't get Daemonic weapons.

Feth you Jervis.

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I gotz that wolf guard model, its one of my favorite sculpts so far.

THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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H.B.M.C. wrote:
There's also a funky new way of kitting out your characters, it is similar to the Vampiric Powers used by WFB VC.


So having a wargear list of cool upgrades is 'new' is it?

What. The. Feth.

The Woofs get an upgrade list ala Vampire Counts and Chaos are stuck with generic weapon lists, no Daemonic Gifts at all (a staple since 1st Ed 40K) and Daemon Princes that can't get Daemonic weapons.

Feth you Jervis.
Don't be so quick to condemn GW, they'll probably have 1 or 2 wargear choices that are obviously better than the rest and that'll be the one that everyone takes in every list.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
There's also a funky new way of kitting out your characters, it is similar to the Vampiric Powers used by WFB VC.


So having a wargear list of cool upgrades is 'new' is it?

What. The. Feth.

The Woofs get an upgrade list ala Vampire Counts and Chaos are stuck with generic weapon lists, no Daemonic Gifts at all (a staple since 1st Ed 40K) and Daemon Princes that can't get Daemonic weapons.

Feth you Jervis.


Amen there HBMC. I might just use the space wolves book for my chaos army.

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Insane Psychopath on the B&C, confirms that the Landspeeder Storm is an option for Wolf Scouts the new codex.



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Well of course it is.

Why cut of revenue avenues by not allowing a new Marine army to use a recently released model kit?

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carmachu wrote: I might just use the space wolves book for my chaos army.


Been planning to do that for months myself. Sold my other two armies just so I could buy up some Possessed, Zerker, CSM and a few SM kits when the codex hits.

These rumors are exciting me quite a bit though. Can't wait to see how I can combine cool looking chaos bits to get dual Wolf Claw marines.

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BDJV wrote:Insane Psychopath on the B&C, confirms that the Landspeeder Storm is an option for Wolf Scouts the new codex.


/wrists
   
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combatmedic wrote:
BDJV wrote:Insane Psychopath on the B&C, confirms that the Landspeeder Storm is an option for Wolf Scouts the new codex.


/wrists


I don't get it, why is that bad? Did old space wolves not like Landspeeders? Especially those of the storm variety?

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they don't like flying

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Typeline wrote:
combatmedic wrote:
BDJV wrote:Insane Psychopath on the B&C, confirms that the Landspeeder Storm is an option for Wolf Scouts the new codex.


/wrists


I don't get it, why is that bad? Did old space wolves not like Landspeeders? Especially those of the storm variety?


Because the last divergent chapter of SM to get a dex was DA and well they got screwed unless you play DW, RW or Doublewing.

And apparetnly combatmedic has a bunch of DA.

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lord marcus wrote:they don't like flying


Oh yeah, I remember now.

They don't have anything with jump packs either right? No DSing either.

That's pretty funny. I hope those Landspeeder stroms end up being a really good choice for them. That way I'll see fluffy space wolves list playing my Chaos Marines counts as wolves that will definitely be flying those things around if they are good.

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Thats exactly why it does not make sense. Again I know I sound like a broken record but the individuality of each chapter is slowly being drained away as they get closer to just releasing the 6th ed codex of SM with the chapter masters from each of the old books and replacing combat tactics with "can take wolves as troops, are stubborn, and paint them gray" special rules.

Little upset that the SW get the cool new toys? Yea, but I can live.

Really more upset at the insane lack of originality each new codex brings to the game.
   
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Im sorry combatmedic, you are wrong at this point, in 2nd edition space wolves had plenty of jump packs, flyers, drop pods, etc.
It was merely the ad hoc slap together of rules for 3rd edition that they decided to limit the Space Wolf access to the air.

the only limitation that has been consistent is the lack of teleportation, but even then there has been exceptions.

THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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I stand corrected on my assumption Combatmedic. However I agree that with each new codex something is lost.

Soon we will have xenos in nice 10 man squads with 2 special wepons just with different stats...

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Demogerg wrote:Im sorry combatmedic, you are wrong at this point, in 2nd edition space wolves had plenty of jump packs, flyers, drop pods, etc.
It was merely the ad hoc slap together of rules for 3rd edition that they decided to limit the Space Wolf access to the air.

the only limitation that has been consistent is the lack of teleportation, but even then there has been exceptions.


Consistent?

Can some Wolf Fluff Maniac tell me from 'when' this dates?

3rd edition?

I can't remember!
   
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H.B.M.C. wrote:
There's also a funky new way of kitting out your characters, it is similar to the Vampiric Powers used by WFB VC.


So having a wargear list of cool upgrades is 'new' is it?

What. The. Feth.

The Woofs get an upgrade list ala Vampire Counts and Chaos are stuck with generic weapon lists, no Daemonic Gifts at all (a staple since 1st Ed 40K) and Daemon Princes that can't get Daemonic weapons.

Feth you Jervis.

C'mon. You know the rumors are always better than the final product

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Demogerg wrote:Im sorry combatmedic, you are wrong at this point, in 2nd edition space wolves had plenty of jump packs, flyers, drop pods, etc.
It was merely the ad hoc slap together of rules for 3rd edition that they decided to limit the Space Wolf access to the air.

the only limitation that has been consistent is the lack of teleportation, but even then there has been exceptions.


I wasn't around in 2nd edition, so Iv been raised as it where on 3rd edition, and between then and now is what I have to make my comparisons on, would I have joined the hobby just a year or two earlier Im sure I would have seen something entirely different. I loved the the fact that, even though the Space Wolves where space marines, they had their own special feel. Yea they had speeders and stuff (I remember a really cool diorama with some SW scouts finding a crashed SW landspeeder, freakin beautiful), but they had things that made them unique, like taking wolves, 6 different HQ options including a dreadnought, refused to use an almost critical part of SM technology, and lack of jump troops. These things made the space wolfs interesting. I know their scouts where a big deal as well, but I never played em so Im no expert. But just look at the special rules page of their codex. When was the last time you saw a codex that full of rules? Even if most of them are now USR now.

Id go on about DA and BAs plight but Iv gone on long enough.
   
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