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The last time I checked the idea of a good fluff filled army with some uniqueness to it was up to the player and not all in GW's hands. People want to complain about this, that or the other. If you want something with character and fluff then use the imagination that God gave you and come up with something. I play Wolves and regular Marines. Came up with my won fluff, converted my own figs to stay consistent with my fluff. Every game has certain units that have to played so that it stays true to my fluff and I have tons of fun. If you rely on GW to do it all for you then you are truly missing out on some of the better parts of the game. And you will be sorely disappointed.

According to Hastings the New SW vehicle is a Landraider varient with Assault Cannons.

Then Brimstone had this to say about jump packs!

Brimstone wrote:

Chem-Dog wrote:Now I know you been at the crack... A Chapter that all but refuses to us jump packs better than a Chapter that almost hands them out as standard kit?!

The jump pack thing is recent and I wouldn't expect it to stay in its current form.

Woot!

For the record, there are no rules limiting the use of flying in the SW book. Landspeeders are allowed with no restrictions, and Blood Claws do use jumpacks....its just an expensive option, and none of the characters had a jump pack option.

Teleportation is what Wolves disliked.

I hope these Wolf Claws are still power weapons.

Even the Teleportation thing is fairly new WD had a battle report back in the day very Space Hulkish, the wolves teleported on to a hulk and fought some Stealers.

When was this?

Here is the current round up of rumors that we have so far. 7/8

The Space Wolf codex has an October release date.

LC's are called Wolf Claws in the new codex, you can choose to either re-roll to hit or to wound.

Canis Wolfborn is the new SW SC; He's riding a very big wolf in a not so weird way as that sounds. Let just say those bloodcrushers look like grots!!! New from WS; Also Canis is power armoured and has 2 wolf claws. The wolf has some cybernetic bits on it. Its size may have been exaggerated a little it's just a bit bigger than a Juggernaut. IIRC taking Canis also allows you to take two cav choices, 1 can be SW mounted on wolves, the other is just wolves.

Njal Stormcaller returns to the Codex with a new model, holding a gnarled staff out before him.

There will be 2 main plastic kits, however 1 of them can be used to make pretty much every SW troop choice by combining the oooodles of spares on the sprues with normal vanilla marines kits (e.g. a box of devastators plus the extra from the sprues will make your Longfangs. IIRC there are around 30+ heads on the sprue!!! there may also be a special vehicle, but I'm not sure if it's a complete kit or if there will be an upgrade sprue to add to the existing kit.


There's also a funky new way of kitting out your characters called Sagas, it is similar to the Vampiric Powers used by WFB VC, but IMO much more fitting for SW, and very fluffy, in fact it is IMO one of the best ideas GW have had in ages. You choose "sagas" for your characters, perhaps someone with Saga of the monster killer (I made that name up by the way) may be better at killing monsters (high strength things) in some way, although there could be drawbacks to this as he may need to kill so many of such things per game to continue his saga......

Space Wolves gain access to an Assault Cannon Land Raider variant.

The current options for jump packs are going to change.

Assault Cannon Variant meaning Assault Cannon Spons? This would be incredibly exciting.

If these rumors are true, then Id be very happy for SW players, and only hope the trend continues.

Twin linked assault cannon sponsons, you say(insinuate)? I'm sure we'll see a wave of youg'uns making Landraider Crusaders with the Assault cannon sponsons so they can have a tank with 6x(Six!) gatling guns on it. They may or may not make excessive references to that scene in Predator, if they are old enough. Yeah, you know the one.

Now every chapter is making its own LR!

BDJV wrote:
The current options for jump packs are going to change.

woot!

I've been very disappointed that jump packs are too expensive for under-skilled cannon fodder. I'm hoping grey hunters will be able to hop into battle again. I think they added the 'no-fly" rule to the previous codex simply to differentiate them from the Blood Angels, the other "charge-the-enemy-and-poke-em-with-a-pointy-stick" army.

BDJV wrote: there may also be a special vehicle, but I'm not sure if it's a complete kit or if there will be an upgrade sprue to add to the existing kit.

A month or two ago there were some people talking to GW reps, asking questions about WHFB stuff. Trying to get answers about the 'new' thing they are doing. After his line of questioning to try and support the rumor of Chaos Dwarfs being this 'new' thing he asked a couple of questions about Space Wolves. He asked if the Russ was staying, the rep asked if he'd be upset if it didn't. Then the rep stated if the player would be upset if there were a Predator variant or something similar in place of the Russ.

Maybe they will have their own predator upgrade sprue. Sells a SM kit and an additional sprue, if the vehicle is popular (good) enough they will make a pretty good bit on it. Personally I believe this Predator variant is going to be their new vehicle.

BDJV wrote:There's also a funky new way of kitting out your characters, it is similar to the Vampiric Powers used by WFB VC, but IMO much more fitting for SW, and very fluffy, in fact it is IMO one of the best ideas GW have had in ages. I'm not going to say any more on this as it will spoil the surprise."

I can see this being pretty awesome. VC purchase things like flight and terror. Vampire heroes can spend 50 points on this stuff and Vampire Lords can spend 100 points on this stuff. It's hard to explain how this works really, but these things definitely aren't equipment upgrades. I think these things might be representing some specific beneficial wolf-like mutations.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Now every chapter is making its own LR!

I'm waiting for a variant armed with twin-linked laspistols

Typeline wrote:I can see this being pretty awesome. VC purchase things like flight and terror. Vampire heroes can spend 50 points on this stuff and Vampire Lords can spend 100 points on this stuff. It's hard to explain how this works really, but these things definitely aren't equipment upgrades. I think these things might be representing some specific beneficial wolf-like mutations.

Wolf-like mutations? Are those anything like Chaos mutations? Well I guess if Chaos gets rules to represent all their daemonic gifts and mutations I see no reason why SW shouldn't, right? Hurr!!

I would have thought it to be some kind of totemic thing. Although there must be something different about the mechanic if it's such a good new idea.

I'm glad to see truth coming from all those old rumors. My brother flipped when he heard this! About a week ago, he had said, "If the SW aren't redone, I'm selling them and moving on to fantasy."

SWEET I'm liking the rumors

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Typeline wrote:I can see this being pretty awesome. VC purchase things like flight and terror. Vampire heroes can spend 50 points on this stuff and Vampire Lords can spend 100 points on this stuff. It's hard to explain how this works really, but these things definitely aren't equipment upgrades. I think these things might be representing some specific beneficial wolf-like mutations.

Wolf-like mutations? Are those anything like Chaos mutations? Well I guess if Chaos gets rules to represent all their daemonic gifts and mutations I see no reason why SW shouldn't, right? Hurr!!

Chaos doesn't have mutations anymore. And CSM don't get daemonic gifts either, only actual daemons.

It will be pretty specific to SW, I'm sure of it. It also won't be gear based at all.

gorgon wrote:I would have thought it to be some kind of totemic thing. Although there must be something different about the mechanic if it's such a good new idea.

Indeed.

I am sure when the full story comes out people will be happier.

Or not.. this is Dakka after all.

Just out of curiosity, what does the VC have that the Space Wolves can emulate?

I don't play Fantasy so an explanation on the VC thing would be nice.

All I know is if that triple assault cannon land raider is true you can sign me up for one.

Mahu wrote:Just out of curiosity, what does the VC have that the Space Wolves can emulate?

I don't play Fantasy so an explanation on the VC thing would be nice.

Vampire heroes can spend 50 points, Lords can spend 100 points on Vampiric Powers.

These powers are all set off into different groups for VC. The Severed (hermits), The Arkayne(magic), The Bestial(monsters), The Martialle(fighty), The Courtly(leadership effects) and The Master(enhancement).

These powers range from stuff like Supernatural Horror (The Severed) makes the Vampire cause terror, to Red Fury (The Martialle) which lets the Vampire have a number of extra attacks as wounds as that vampire just caused.

I'd imagine some of the stuff to be similar

combatmedic wrote:Assault Cannon Variant meaning Assault Cannon Spons? This would be incredibly exciting.

Well, SW will be losing the Exterminator...

reds8n wrote:

gorgon wrote:I would have thought it to be some kind of totemic thing. Although there must be something different about the mechanic if it's such a good new idea.

Indeed.

I am sure when the full story comes out people will be happier.

Or not.. this is Dakka after all.

Sure, given the many similar sagas we've seen on Dakka, is that what you're saying?

Khornatedemon wrote:All I know is if that triple assault cannon land raider is true you can sign me up for one.

If that is true, you can sign me up for three (if it's possible to run three with a single FOC)

BTW Jump Pack marines are called "Skyriders" in SW Codex, according to Hastings at WS.

Typeline wrote:

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

Typeline wrote:I can see this being pretty awesome. VC purchase things like flight and terror. Vampire heroes can spend 50 points on this stuff and Vampire Lords can spend 100 points on this stuff. It's hard to explain how this works really, but these things definitely aren't equipment upgrades. I think these things might be representing some specific beneficial wolf-like mutations.

Wolf-like mutations? Are those anything like Chaos mutations? Well I guess if Chaos gets rules to represent all their daemonic gifts and mutations I see no reason why SW shouldn't, right? Hurr!!

Chaos doesn't have mutations anymore. And CSM don't get daemonic gifts either, only actual daemons.

It will be pretty specific to SW, I'm sure of it. It also won't be gear based at all.

I am guessing that Aba-da-ba-da...ba...(whatever) is griping about Chaos loss of deamonic gifts and mutations that was present back in 3rd edition.

Aba..., I think you are going to have to pour the sarcasm on a little thicker next time.

gorgon wrote:

reds8n wrote:

gorgon wrote:I would have thought it to be some kind of totemic thing. Although there must be something different about the mechanic if it's such a good new idea.

Indeed.

I am sure when the full story comes out people will be happier.

Or not.. this is Dakka after all.

Sure, given the many similar sagas we've seen on Dakka, is that what you're saying?

I've always thought you'd go far.

You've always risen to the challenge so far. So much to gain from doing so.

More from Hastings on upgrading your heroes!

You choose "sagas" for your characters, perhaps someone with Saga of the monster killer (I made that name up by the way) may be better at killing monsters (high strength things) in some way, although there could be drawbacks to this as he may need to kill so many of such things per game to continue his saga......

reds8n wrote:

gorgon wrote:

reds8n wrote:

gorgon wrote:I would have thought it to be some kind of totemic thing. Although there must be something different about the mechanic if it's such a good new idea.

Indeed.

I am sure when the full story comes out people will be happier.

Or not.. this is Dakka after all.

Sure, given the many similar sagas we've seen on Dakka, is that what you're saying?

I've always thought you'd go far.

You've always risen to the challenge so far. So much to gain from doing so.

Darn that Phil K. He's gonna remove my long-standing, deep-rooted annoyance with SW and those that play them. Been on the wrong end of too many five-man Wolf Guard squads with assault cannons during 2nd edition, I suppose.

I just want a new Ulrik the Slayer model. If it's October, when willwe see new SW models? End of August?